Mike the Boilerman 6454 Report post #1451 Posted November 7, 2018 1 hour ago, alan_fincher said: "Turmoil" moored alongside our two boats at this yeas Rickmansworth festival.It is loud! As was my Kelvin K1 initially. I fixed that by welding a thing into the exhaust that looked remarkably like a 3.9kg gas bottle. But it wasn't, obviously, coz that would of bin ILLEGAL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
casper ghost 88 Report post #1452 Posted November 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said: As was my Kelvin K1 initially. I fixed that by welding a thing into the exhaust that looked remarkably like a 3.9kg gas bottle. But it wasn't, obviously, coz that would of bin ILLEGAL. On my brother's HR2, we first used an old, big, fire extinguisher, but it was too loud so replaced it with a Fordson Major silencer. My Ruston has a self made silencer, which is really just a 10" diameter x 14" cylinder, it's quite loud.. I've never seen a video of your Kelvin with the boat in motion... Casp' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike the Boilerman 6454 Report post #1453 Posted November 7, 2018 10 minutes ago, casper ghost said: On my brother's HR2, we first used an old, big, fire extinguisher, but it was too loud so replaced it with a Fordson Major silencer. My Ruston has a self made silencer, which is really just a 10" diameter x 14" cylinder, it's quite loud.. I've never seen a video of your Kelvin with the boat in motion... Casp' Maybe there isn't one.... Surprisingly difficult to record a video of one's engine whilst steering one's bote! But I'll give it a try..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
casper ghost 88 Report post #1454 Posted November 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said: Maybe there isn't one.... Surprisingly difficult to record a video of one's engine whilst steering one's bote! But I'll give it a try..... You could at least video the exhaust stack, like I did last week. I sit by my boat sipping tea waiting for the day a nice single cylinder pops by, only Sabbs and Yanmars so far. though I did pass a boat with a K1 many year's ago at Audlem.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike the Boilerman 6454 Report post #1455 Posted November 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, casper ghost said: You could at least video the exhaust stack, like I did last week. I sit by my boat sipping tea waiting for the day a nice single cylinder pops by, only Sabbs and Yanmars so far. though I did pass a boat with a K1 many year's ago at Audlem.. Catkin, obvs... Sold now to peeps who came to see mine too. Ok I'll do one next time I go for water.... watch this space..........! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLWP 1551 Report post #1456 Posted November 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Mike the Boilerman said: Ok I'll do one next time I go for water I'm hoping that the next time you are on the water, it won't be a Kelvin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
springy 32 Report post #1457 Posted November 12, 2018 Dorman 3DA https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Large-Air-Cooled-British-Marine-Diesel-Engine-Dorman/153249997979?hash=item23ae69649b:g:v4QAAOSwww9b4piP:rk:36:pf:0 springy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flatplane8 6 Report post #1458 Posted November 12, 2018 Ruston....looks nice https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ruston-Hornsby-Engine-Diesel/173627147015?_trkparms=aid%3D888007%26algo%3DDISC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140328180637%26meid%3D3e492e15c9c448bab44e47d74e837ef0%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D332857205202%26itm%3D173627147015&_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alan_fincher 2809 Report post #1459 Posted November 12, 2018 48 minutes ago, flatplane8 said: Ruston....looks nice https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ruston-Hornsby-Engine-Diesel/173627147015?_trkparms=aid%3D888007%26algo%3DDISC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140328180637%26meid%3D3e492e15c9c448bab44e47d74e837ef0%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D332857205202%26itm%3D173627147015&_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982 At least a ton and a quarter of it I reckon. Tending towards the "too big" size for a narrow boat, possibly - it's never going to get worked very hard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billh 89 Report post #1460 Posted November 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, alan_fincher said: At least a ton and a quarter of it I reckon. Tending towards the "too big" size for a narrow boat, possibly - it's never going to get worked very hard. Equal size and weight to Lister JP3. Bomb proof, reliable, sounds lovely,slow tickover. Our 3VRH is still in its original 1949 Ruston Bucyrus"10RB"and will be staying there. You're right, too big for a narrowboat and a lot of faff to fit a suitable reversing box,raised hand starting, different cooling circuit etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
David Mack 1363 Report post #1461 Posted December 1, 2018 AS2 with paragon box £1500 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Inboard-Diesel-Armstrong-Siddley-2-Cylinder-Engine-/113395219987?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l4275.c10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike the Boilerman 6454 Report post #1462 Posted December 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, David Mack said: AS2 with paragon box £1500 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Inboard-Diesel-Armstrong-Siddley-2-Cylinder-Engine-/113395219987?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l4275.c10 Blimey that looks unfeasibly cheap!! BARGAIN!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stagedamager 138 Report post #1463 Posted December 1, 2018 its been on for a while, having dropped by at least 1k already. the issue is that it doesn't have a marine bell housing, rather a plate with small gaps drilled to SAE PCD to bolt onto the leading edge of the fan shroud, and therefore massively limiting the airflow, so will run very hot. That and missing it's electric start which isn't that much of a deal breaker, but blocking air on an air cooled engine may be! Dan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike the Boilerman 6454 Report post #1464 Posted December 1, 2018 9 minutes ago, stagedamager said: its been on for a while, having dropped by at least 1k already. the issue is that it doesn't have a marine bell housing, rather a plate with small gaps drilled to SAE PCD to bolt onto the leading edge of the fan shroud, and therefore massively limiting the airflow, so will run very hot. That and missing it's electric start which isn't that much of a deal breaker, but blocking air on an air cooled engine may be! Dan Ah I see, thanks. And AS engines apparently being complete bar stewards to hand start in the cold propably doesn't help! On the other hand buying it for spares if you have one already seems a Good Eye Deer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stagedamager 138 Report post #1465 Posted December 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said: Ah I see, thanks. And AS engines apparently being complete bar stewards to hand start in the cold propably doesn't help! On the other hand buying it for spares if you have one already seems a Good Eye Deer. They're ok if you blowtorch the fins..... At that point it's a lot of money for spares, as most 2 pots go for 400 ish, so you're buying a paragon box for 1100 quid, and no raised hand start either. As an aside I keep spares if people ever need them! Kind Regards Dan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWM 340 Report post #1466 Posted December 29, 2018 https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F273069249912 Looks interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stilllearning 1733 Report post #1467 Posted December 29, 2018 3 hours ago, BWM said: https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F273069249912 Looks interesting. Knowing almost nothing about Kelvins, is it possible for a model 1K2 to be a 4 cylinder engine? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWM 340 Report post #1468 Posted December 29, 2018 10 minutes ago, Stilllearning said: Knowing almost nothing about Kelvins, is it possible for a model 1K2 to be a 4 cylinder engine? Likewise i know very little about Kelvin engines, but i'm sure someone here does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BEngo 335 Report post #1469 Posted December 29, 2018 Looks like a 4 cylinder Model P. Kelvin's small engine follow up to the J range. 20 hp at 1500 rpm. Details and handbook on Mike Skyner's site. Not their greatest product IMO, even though they sold fairly well. Always smoky, can be very smoky. Bits very scarce. Early ones had a Kelvin gearbox but this one appears to have something different . N Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Adams 63 Report post #1470 Posted December 30, 2018 Could this be an elusive JP1? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Loddon 1561 Report post #1471 Posted December 30, 2018 This looks like one. https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F283243682180 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neil Smith 73 Report post #1472 Posted December 30, 2018 it says in the description CS 9-1 meaning cold start 9hp 1 cylinder. so not a jp1. neil Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BEngo 335 Report post #1473 Posted December 30, 2018 A CS 9-1 is I believe identical to an early JP1. The early JP2's were I think known as CS 18-2. No doubt Steamraiser or Martyn 1 will be along in due course to give chapter and verse. N Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steamraiser2 35 Report post #1474 Posted December 30, 2018 It's a JP1. We had a marinised one of these in our show trailer a few years back. There wasn't a JP1M built. Ours had a Velvet Drive gearbox Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWM 340 Report post #1475 Posted December 30, 2018 3 hours ago, BEngo said: A CS 9-1 is I believe identical to an early JP1. The early JP2's were I think known as CS 18-2. No doubt Steamraiser or Martyn 1 will be along in due course to give chapter and verse. N One of the differences being that the CS has external push rods. I believe the JP1 is also known as a 9/1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
