magpie patrick Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 After a bad summer the BSC means I must clean the bilge (or remove the bilge pump!) and I've finally taken on the job. Problem is that having had a failed bilge pump AND a fuel pump sending more diesel into the bilge than to the engine we had a rather noxious mix in there, that couldn't just be pumped overboard. This was exacerbated by the level getting high enough to flood the engine drip tray, to add oil to the mix. So along I go with a stirrup pump and four 20 litre containers last week. Pump into a bucket, empty bucket into container through a funnel, jobs done like. Only it isn't, because with all four containers full I still have an inch or more in the bilge... Next free time, Monday (Yesterday). Head for council tip, about to drain into used engine oil when "waste operative" decides this is contaminated waste. "OOver thar pleeze" (This is Somerset) and I get rid of 80 litres of waste.... and the four containers. Go back home, Val has procured a 20 litre drum that once held UV ink, and the local green shop has a 25 litre drum that held ecover, of course I can have it. Off to boat again. This capacity finished the job, and leaves the bilge dry on one side and less than a centimetre on the other (boat lists slightly). Then throw 20 litres of multizorb around. Today's challenge, getting the multizorb out... I knew it would be more difficult than putting it in, but boy. First, what to use. Ripples bilge is a labyrinth. The granules went in by judicious sprinkling, but to get them out? So armed with a trowel, and a hoe with a short handle, I went in. After a few minutes I realised the trowel wouldn't work (the hoe is to move stuff to where I can reach it with a trowel). The largest space I have for access to the floor of the bilge isn't big enough to bring a trowel up level, and it must be level if I'm not to spill the contents back in! As I lay on the swim in the stygian gloom, I thought "that gap is only big enough for a soup can". Then came the eureka moment into cabin, food can out of recycling, dust pan brush. In the next hour, I cleared a third of it, after which my muscles screamed at the ungainly posture required. back tomorrow for another few hours lieing on the swim, but at least I now know I can win. However I will need a new dust pan brush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 You can make great scoops out of plastic milk bottles. Leave the lid on and cut the bottom out Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magpie patrick Posted October 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 You can make great scoops out of plastic milk bottles. Leave the lid on and cut the bottom out Richard Thanks Richard, I think you've just halved the time the job will take Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pamaloon Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 BRING ON THE RALGEX - AND A LARGE, REALLY STIFF DRINK ... BUT NOT TOGETHER! I take my hat off to 'ee my lad - and to think I was actually looking forward to getting round to "attacking" mine next week. Still, I'll take heed of your words of experience and be ready for the worst. Mmmm - just think what we'd feel like though if these jobs WEREN'T done?! Enjoy your very long and slowly enjoyed drink Magpie, by golly you deserve it. :cheers: After a bad summer the BSC means I must clean the bilge (or remove the bilge pump!) and I've finally taken on the job. Problem is that having had a failed bilge pump AND a fuel pump sending more diesel into the bilge than to the engine we had a rather noxious mix in there, that couldn't just be pumped overboard. This was exacerbated by the level getting high enough to flood the engine drip tray, to add oil to the mix. So along I go with a stirrup pump and four 20 litre containers last week. Pump into a bucket, empty bucket into container through a funnel, jobs done like. Only it isn't, because with all four containers full I still have an inch or more in the bilge... Next free time, Monday (Yesterday). Head for council tip, about to drain into used engine oil when "waste operative" decides this is contaminated waste. "OOver thar pleeze" (This is Somerset) and I get rid of 80 litres of waste.... and the four containers. Go back home, Val has procured a 20 litre drum that once held UV ink, and the local green shop has a 25 litre drum that held ecover, of course I can have it. Off to boat again. This capacity finished the job, and leaves the bilge dry on one side and less than a centimetre on the other (boat lists slightly). Then throw 20 litres of multizorb around. Today's challenge, getting the multizorb out... I knew it would be more difficult than putting it in, but boy. First, what to use. Ripples bilge is a labyrinth. The granules went in by judicious sprinkling, but to get them out? So armed with a trowel, and a hoe with a short handle, I went in. After a few minutes I realised the trowel wouldn't work (the hoe is to move stuff to where I can reach it with a trowel). The largest space I have for access to the floor of the bilge isn't big enough to bring a trowel up level, and it must be level if I'm not to spill the contents back in! As I lay on the swim in the stygian gloom, I thought "that gap is only big enough for a soup can". Then came the eureka moment into cabin, food can out of recycling, dust pan brush. In the next hour, I cleared a third of it, after which my muscles screamed at the ungainly posture required. back tomorrow for another few hours lieing on the swim, but at least I now know I can win. However I will need a new dust pan brush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 Powerful workshop vac? Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keeping Up Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 Could you use a VAX? I don't know Multizorb, but I do know that the VAX works fine with bilge-soaked cat litter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 Could you use a VAX? Great minds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keeping Up Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 Great minds... but fools ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcat Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 well i aquired several old vax machines and they do a good job on lots of yukky stuff on the boat,one died recently but that leaves 2 more still working so another vote for the vax being the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
granddad Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 Could you use a VAX? I don't know Multizorb, but I do know that the VAX works fine with bilge-soaked cat litter after several episodes of your problems - I have a 7 litre pela pump - its a vacuum pump and will suck oil and water into the 7 litre pump- then pour it into the 30 litres waste drum - then its ok for the oil waste in the local tip. Its also good for water in a bilge or diesel in the fuel tank. It will strip the warm lube oil from the engine when you do a service also - very versatile its about £70 build your own pipe for the suction and its a real winner - removes any water lurking under the fuel in the fuel tank also. Every practical person has your (my) problems so try it. ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sueb Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 Nappies are good for bilge fluids. Sue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted October 13, 2010 Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 My £50 Kratcher wet&dry vac has sucked dry the bilges of half the boats in the marina for the last 6 years+. Oil, nuts, bolts ,kitchen roll even wet j cloths are taken in it's stride. O/k, it's passed it's best by date but keeps going. No use for normal dust/dirt but who cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted October 13, 2010 Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 When I first took over Old Friends, the under Gardner area was lined with a whitish(not quite) absorbent pad. As my Gardner is incontinent, being 70 plus yrs old, the under engine area is now saturatedplus. I do intend to sort soon, however, where are the absorbent mats available from, and how do I dispose of the completely done ones. Oh, and after reading the rest of the thread, gutted, because I gave away all my cat litter to a cat owner, for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcat Posted October 14, 2010 Report Share Posted October 14, 2010 1.49p [30 bob almost in old money] for 7 kg bag in Sainsbugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smelly Posted October 14, 2010 Report Share Posted October 14, 2010 Old socks (or tights if you're lucky enough) are a good addition to the cat litter equation... Heavy duty nappy action! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgreg Posted October 15, 2010 Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 My ex-wife's towelling bath-robe did an amazing job of cleaning the bilge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted October 15, 2010 Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 My ex-wife's towelling bath-robe did an amazing job of cleaning the bilge! Did you then post it to her with a note "You forgot this"? Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgreg Posted October 15, 2010 Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 Did you then post it to her with a note "You forgot this"? Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlt Posted October 15, 2010 Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 I use a dustpan (the old metal type that holds lots of water and bilge gunk). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TandC Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 A cheap Wickes wet-n-dry hoover was the best purchase i ever made - our cruiser deck was permanently gathering water and it was way quicker to hoover the water out and heave it overboard. Being able to put the hose wherever there was a puddle was much more effective than the bilge pump. It will suck up so much that just an hour or so with the deck boards up mean its bone dry. We had a major oil leak and it coped easily with 5litres of gloop - hoovered it up, funnel and into drums which the tip allowed me to pour in to their container. Its a lot more effective, considerably less mess or effort than cat litter, cheaper and greener than nappies. Do accept it has none of the satisfaction value of ex-wife's possessions...! This summer, pre BSC, i took the angle grinder and wire brush to the bilge - messy job but only took an hour to whizz off all the rust and flaking red oxide - hoovered all that up then painted with Vactan rust preventer, then several coats of cheap direct-to-metal paint and it looks a million times better. I didnt bother with the base plate as there is still oil residue stuck to the metal so no rust there! Now i hope it will be a quick job once a summer to give it another coat of paint whenever it needs it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatgypsy Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 I use a liberal application of wood shavings to soak up both oil and water, and then suck it all up with a vax. I then put the resulting sludge in the log burner and use it to heat the boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB Up Sticks Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 All I can say is nappies! Cheap, reliable, disposable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 I wonder, did Patrick ever finish cleaning his bilge? The subject hasn't come up in one of the rants Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisPy Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 the subject is probably the cause of his rants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubblequeen Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Are there any suitable vax's that come with a rechargeable battery? No electric where we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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