port solent portsmouth --- to basingstoke canal (sensible route for novice)

[regine]

Dear canal world forum  -  Portsmouth to Basingstoke

I need some thoughts - quite new to larger boats - I've just purchased a used 7metre Newbridge sailing boat // presently at port Solent marina near Portsmouth // in the summer hoping to sail up to the Basingstoke canal. Can anyone suggest a sensible route for a beginner // or how and where to plan the journey, are there any good online maps - I did sail when younger but many years ago, mirror dinghies - the new boat has an inboard engine / and I'm a bit rusty as that was thirty years ago / boat has a small inboard engine, its not a liveaboard but has overnight berths, engine, sails, cooking facilities etc -  and I'm not in a mad hurry. Just a slow gentle journey would be fine. I'm thinking of eventually - looking for a more semi - permanent mooring near Basingstoke. Any thoughts ... My contact email is reginedefigier1963@gmail.com  // (just in case I forget to check the forum regularly). Many thanks Regine - appreciate anyone's advice !

[junior]

AI spam. Don't waste your time replying.

[Tony Brooks]

Is this for real? I would suggest M27, M3, M25 then local roads.

 

Otherwise, you go around the coast and up the Thames, then river Wey to the canal.

 

The Basingstoke Canal Authority seem to have pretty strict   regulations in respect of use f the canal and mooring.

[matty40s]

Join the Wey and Arun Canal society and start digging.

[Tony Brooks]

Just now, matty40s said:

Join the Wey and Arun Canal society and start digging.

 

Yup -  that would work, eventually, but I have not heard any pans for the east-west canal from the Arun to Chichester Harbour.

[Chris Lowe]

2 hours ago, Tony Brooks said:

Yup -  that would work, eventually, but I have not heard any pans for the east-west canal from the Arun to Chichester Harbour.

 

There was a Portsmouth & Arundel canal society

[DShK]

2 hours ago, Tony Brooks said:

 

Yup -  that would work, eventually, but I have not heard any pans for the east-west canal from the Arun to Chichester Harbour.

Chichester canal was never connected to any other system. It served city centre access to the harbour. It also was only of any real use for 20 years!

Edited March 13 by DShK

[Chris Lowe]

28 minutes ago, DShK said:

Chichester canal was never connected to any other system. It served city centre access to the harbour. It also was only of any real use for 20 years!

Chichester canal was part of the Portsmouth & Arundel canal along with the Portsea canal, And it did connect with the river Arun although not for very long.

 

[dmr]

4 hours ago, Tony Brooks said:

Is this for real? I would suggest M27, M3, M25 then local roads.

 

Otherwise, you go around the coast and up the Thames, then river Wey to the canal.

 

The Basingstoke Canal Authority seem to have pretty strict   regulations in respect of use f the canal and mooring.

 

Where's your sense of adventure?   Down to the Lizard and Lands end, up the Bristol channel, full length of the K&A and down the Thames.

[DShK]

1 hour ago, Chris Lowe said:

Chichester canal was part of the Portsmouth & Arundel canal along with the Portsea canal, And it did connect with the river Arun although not for very long.

 

 

I'm not exactly clear on the Portsmouth and Arundel canal. But Chichester canal (ship canal?) was just from the sea to the basin in the city.

 

Edit: looked into it and your right! It was a distinct thing but it was part of a larger network. Neat! I grew up near there, I never knew that.

Edited March 13 by DShK

[David Mack]

The Portsmouth and Arundel Canal was intended to be part of a route between Portsmouth and London, avoiding the English Channel. There was a section on Portsea Island, an east-west canal from the Chichester Harbour to the River Arun and a branch to Chichester Basin. The west end of the main line and Chichester Branch were built to larger dimensions than the section to the east, and it is these larger sections that are now known as the Chichester Canal. The section east of the Chichester Branch was disused by 1847, but the Chichester Canal carried commercial traffic until 1906.

[Arthur Marshall]

21 minutes ago, DShK said:

 

I'm not exactly clear on the Portsmouth and Arundel canal. But Chichester canal (ship canal?) was just from the sea to the basin in the city.

 

Edit: looked into it and your right! It was a distinct thing but it was part of a larger network. Neat! I grew up near there, I never knew that.

I grew up in Chichester, we used to walk along the canal most Sundays. I never realised they could have boats on them until thirty years later.

[MtB]

6 hours ago, regine said:

looking for a more semi - permanent mooring near Basingstoke. Any thoughts ...

 

Yes. 

[DShK]

1 hour ago, Arthur Marshall said:

I grew up in Chichester, we used to walk along the canal most Sundays. I never realised they could have boats on them until thirty years later.

Yeah, I grew up in bognor (so I have to see you as a snob -sorry 😄). I'd never even seen a canal boat until I was in my 30s!

 

I only really looked into Chichester canal again because I have a Chichester lace plate with a giant ship on. Looked into whether the harbour could even take ships that big. Fun fact, Chichester harbour was once one of the largest corn exporters in England.

[Scholar Gypsy]

If the journey was in the other direction, then I think this newspaper article would be very relevant. Ditto the advice it contains  from HM Coastguard.

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/kent/news/man-sails-round-isle-of-sheppey--a85754/

[Arthur Marshall]

9 hours ago, DShK said:

Yeah, I grew up in bognor (so I have to see you as a snob -sorry 😄). I'd never even seen a canal boat until I was in my 30s!

 

I only really looked into Chichester canal again because I have a Chichester lace plate with a giant ship on. Looked into whether the harbour could even take ships that big. Fun fact, Chichester harbour was once one of the largest corn exporters in England.

I used to go to Bognor with choir outings - many happy memories of the dodgems at Butlins (I think it was Butlins?)

[Chris Lowe]

10 minutes ago, Arthur Marshall said:

I used to go to Bognor with choir outings - many happy memories of the dodgems at Butlins (I think it was Butlins?)

Butlins is made to sort of look like a cruise ship, where I used to work we did a load of big GRP mouldings for it.

[Ken X]

13 hours ago, David Mack said:

The Portsmouth and Arundel Canal was intended to be part of a route between Portsmouth and London, avoiding the English Channel. There was a section on Portsea Island, an east-west canal from the Chichester Harbour to the River Arun and a branch to Chichester Basin. The west end of the main line and Chichester Branch were built to larger dimensions than the section to the east, and it is these larger sections that are now known as the Chichester Canal. The section east of the Chichester Branch was disused by 1847, but the Chichester Canal carried commercial traffic until 1906.

I understand it was built as the French controlled the English Channel and, as we were at war with them, a secure route was needed to transfer goods etc. from London to the Portsmouth Naval Dockyards as detailed above.

[carlt]

18 hours ago, junior said:

AI spam. Don't waste your time replying.

Which AI checker do you use because every one I've run the post through says "100% human".

[Tony Brooks]

4 minutes ago, carlt said:

Which AI checker do you use because every one I've run the post through says "100% human".

 

My first thought before I replied was AI, but then I thought that I doubt AI could make itself appear to have so little ability to do basic research and put two and two together logically, even at today's state of development

[carlt]

11 minutes ago, Tony Brooks said:

 

My first thought before I replied was AI, but then I thought that I doubt AI could make itself appear to have so little ability to do basic research and put two and two together logically, even at today's state of development

Perhaps they should develop a Turing test for humans.

[brianthesnail96]

One of the more baffling features of this forum is the tendency to assume any slightly left field (or indeed completely and utterly daft) question is from "AI", when AI relies on using the vast amount of data available online to communicate and generally manages to be factually correct but badly worded, whereas the average human happily ignores all this data available at their fingertips and just asks the question 😁

Edited Friday at 12:39 by brianthesnail96

[DShK]

3 hours ago, Arthur Marshall said:

I used to go to Bognor with choir outings - many happy memories of the dodgems at Butlins (I think it was Butlins?)

Yeah, butlins has had dodgems for many years - can't imagine them anywhere else!

 

 

my Chichester lace plate- can't really imagine a ship that big in the harbour!

 

3 hours ago, Chris Lowe said:

Butlins is made to sort of look like a cruise ship, where I used to work we did a load of big GRP mouldings for it.

I always thought it was supposed to look like a replica of the millennium dome

 

41 minutes ago, carlt said:

Which AI checker do you use because every one I've run the post through says "100% human".

Those "AI checkers" are pretty useless FWIW

[regine]

It was a genuine question - I presumed you could make way from south coast to Basingstoke along either a navigable canal or river network - / without going up to the Thames and along. Some useful comments and some less useful ... !!! Hey ho ...

[ditchcrawler]

Well the OP has been back for a look