carlt Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 (edited) Yes all well and good but your wash will still damage the bank. Just because an action is not banned by law it doesn't mean you have to do it, it is usually best in most circumstances to leave most things to the individuals skill and judgement (not in your case obviously) Great boat though. One of the reasons speed limits vary on rivers is because the action of the current on the bank far outweighs the effect a boat has on it. The boat, if going upstream, may well be moving at a speed well within what you may feel is reasonable, in relation to the bank. But creating a wash because of the speed relative to the current . If going downstream, in a strong current, then there may be practically no wash, but the boat must move far in excess of what you deem to be acceptable, in order to be able to steer. Edited November 27, 2007 by carlt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottle Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Yes all well and good but your wash will still damage the bank. Just because an action is not banned by law it doesn't mean you have to do it, it is usually best in most circumstances to leave most things to the individuals skill and judgement (not in your case obviously) Great boat though. I am not a water flow expert but looking at the photo (of Alnwick) looks to me that she is going upstream into quite a head wind and I cannot see a breaking wave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzy J Posted December 3, 2007 Report Share Posted December 3, 2007 Couldn't resist joining in... ... They are really lovely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timleech Posted December 3, 2007 Report Share Posted December 3, 2007 They are really lovely. So is this Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andywatson Posted December 3, 2007 Report Share Posted December 3, 2007 Hi - yes, been living aboard since June. And loving it! Just slowly doing it up (funds permitting) so it's basically one job per month gets done. Last month it was the engine inspection/service, this month it'll be getting someone to adjust the alternator spacing to stop the fan belts touching. It's starting to look nice inside too - still plenty of cosmetic work to be done, but we're getting there. It feels very warm and homely so we're very happy. (Incidentally, the reason the masking tape is there is because we were sealing the leaking windows a few months ago but had to keep pausing between rainy spells. We paused for so long that now the tape won't come off without leaving kacky bits everywhere. It'll take a long soaking and a lot of patience to persuade it off the window now!) I've found meths removes making tape remains quite effectively without damaging even fresh paint. Worth a try........... regds A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil@CanalVoyagers Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 So is this Tim Thanks Tim. Derek has been giving me a helping hand getting the pair cleaned up again this winter so they should be better next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timleech Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 Thanks Tim. Derek has been giving me a helping hand getting the pair cleaned up again this winter so they should be better next year. Maybe I should get him up here to help me clean the dredger up Should I get my wife to liven it up with some roses & castles, do you think ? Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStringPudding Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 I've found meths removes making tape remains quite effectively without damaging even fresh paint. Worth a try........... regds A Excellent advice, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB Alnwick Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 I am not a water flow expert but looking at the photo (of Alnwick) looks to me that she is going upstream into quite a head wind and I cannot see a breaking wave. Obviously more of an expert than you care to admit! Those were exactly the circumstances and we reckon the depth of water was at least 6 feet - it seems to us that the breaking wave effect is entirely to do with depth of water - on the Oxford Canal we cannot exceed 3 mph without causing a wash that would damage the banks yet on deeper water we seem to be able to go at more than twice this speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aread2 Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 (edited) Edited December 28, 2007 by aread2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy the hammer Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Febuary 07 December 07 Regards Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seamus63834 Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Not the most recent pic and before anybody shouts - there is no speed restriction on this section of the Nene . . . what a good looking boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingken Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 This time I did get a picture, so now I have to find a way of getting it from camera to my new computer.So can anyone help with photos I could use, or can you point me in the direction of such material. IDavid. PS Maybe you would like to email me direct instead of posting contributions on the Forum the choice is yours. Do you not have a USB port on the camera, if not does it have a readable card memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edders Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Hi Everyone, Finally got a half decent picture of my boat, Jenny Rose II She is a 71'6" Steve Hudson and powered by a Gardner 3LW Edders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHutch Posted December 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 It seems to us that the breaking wave effect is entirely to do with depth of water - on the Oxford Canal we cannot exceed 3 mph without causing a wash that would damage the banks yet on deeper water we seem to be able to go at more than twice this speed.Deffonatly. And equally it affects you actaull speed as well, especially the deeper draughted the boat. - Emilyanne is the same, open water or a deep section of water she will do 5-6mph and basicaly without and wash or splash. - Put her on a streach of narrow ditch and at 2mph you can have waves wash and white water all over the place if so inclined! Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterG Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Clover at the Fens Branch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomska Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 (edited) Morgenster (or one of her sister boats) circa 1920 when she was called Koophandel IV... And in May this year arriving in the UK... Edited January 10, 2008 by Tomska Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bargemast Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Morgenster (or one of her sister boats) circa 1920 when she was called Koophandel IV... And in May this year arriving in the UK... Hi Tomska, this is quite a special barge, there are not many of these left over. It looks as if everything of the hull (below the gunnels) is new, has she been entirely replated ? what are her dimensions ? and what sort of engine has she got ? They used to have old single cilinder Kromhout glowbulbs, but I don't expect that yours still has one of these. She's looking good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomska Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 (edited) Hi Tomska, this is quite a special barge, there are not many of these left over. It looks as if everything of the hull (below the gunnels) is new, has she been entirely replated ? what are her dimensions ? and what sort of engine has she got ?They used to have old single cilinder Kromhout glowbulbs, but I don't expect that yours still has one of these. She's looking good. Hi BM, Yes, she was completely overplated in about 2000 with 4mm. She has a 6 cylinder DAF 575 truck engine now, so really has much more oomph than she needs, especially as she no longer carries cargo. Needless to say, she sits a bit higher in the water these days than on the old photo. edited to add dimensions - she's 16 metres x 3. She was sold as a "Langedijker", but as far as I know, that's quite a broad term for small, flat-bottomed boats used to move mostly cabbages along small canals from Northern Holland to the cities. Any more light you can shed would be appreciated (you seem to know your Dutch barges). Cheers. Edited January 10, 2008 by Tomska Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bargemast Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Hi BM, Yes, she was completely overplated in about 2000 with 4mm. She has a 6 cylinder DAF 575 truck engine now, so really has much more oomph than she needs, especially as she no longer carries cargo. Needless to say, she sits a bit higher in the water these days than on the old photo. edited to add dimensions - she's 16 metres x 3. She was sold as a "Langedijker", but as far as I know, that's quite a broad term for small, flat-bottomed boats used to move mostly cabbages along small canals from Northern Holland to the cities. Any more light you can shed would be appreciated (you seem to know your Dutch barges). Cheers. Hi again Tomska, sadly enough I can't tell you much more about the "Langedijker" barges, all I can say is that they didn't make many like yours. The Daf 575 that you've got in her now, is one of the most commenly used in the Dutch barges. I've had several in previous barges, and have 2 of them in my 49' Trawler Yacht, and one 575 Turbo, in a former Dutch fuel tankerbarge, that I'm in the process of preparing for conversion as my future barge to live on, and travel with. I know a few things about the Dutch barges, as I'm Dutch myself, and I've spend almost 40 years living with/on them. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomska Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 ...in a former Dutch fuel tankerbarge, that I'm in the process of preparing for conversion as my future barge to live on, and travel with. Sounds like a big job - if you feel like posting any photos on this forum, I'll be very interested to see them. I've just about finished ripping the insides of mine out prior to completely refitting. I know a few things about the Dutch barges, as I'm Dutch myself, and I've spend almost 40 years living with/on them. Lucky man. I have a bit of a love affair with Holland and her boats. Looking forward to taking Morgenster back there one day and exploring the Netherlands by water. Mods - feel free to delete my posts in a bit to stop the photo thread clogging up. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bargemast Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 No idea if it works, but I'll give it a try. This is the Dutch tanker barge, moored in the North of France, that I'm preparing to convert as my future liveabord barge. She was built in 1953 and messures 21m50 X 4m06, By bargemast at 2008-01-10 Here is a photo of the boat I'm living on when I'm not working on "Brave", she's moored in Burgundy, about 300km away, from the North of France. She was built in Holland in 1994, and is a 14m75AC Broesderkotter, they are very good sea boats CE class B, I bought her in Berlin in 2004, and will sell her as soon as "Brave" is ready to live on. By bargemast at 2008-01-10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barroca grande Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 You lucky lucky thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greywolf Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 good luck it looks good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bargemast Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 You lucky lucky thingI will only be a lucky, lucky thing if I manage to realise this project.For the time being, I often look in the mirror, thinking:"Who the heck is this fool watching me ?"good luck it looks good.Thanks a lot, I like the looks as well, that's why I bought her, that's was the easy part, converting her will be a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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