Mac of Cygnet Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 This from the Times today: At the age of 15 Clinton Bowen was dubbed Canal Boat Boy after social services sought to cure him of his criminal instincts by sending him on a holiday on the waterways. The effort at restorative justice, taken back in 1997, proved divisive and turned Bowen, along with others who received similar treatment, into a tabloid phenomenon. More than two decades on, it has also proven unsuccessful. Bowen was jailed this week for his part in a £127,000 theft of jewellery and artifacts from Sudeley Castle, where gifts from Edward VII to his mistress Alice Keppel, the Duchess of Cornwall’s great-grandmother, were on display. I don't remember Canal Boat Boy, but it seems canal boat holidays lead to a criminal career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 Typical 'soft justice' sen 'em on a nice holiday, next time they want a holiday they just break the law again. Borstel - that was the answer. Abolishing the under the 1982 Criminal Justice Act was a act of Folly. Lock 'em up !! "Bring Back Borstal" was set up to question why the system — abolished in 1982 — was so effective in preventing criminals from reoffending. Just three out of ten young offenders who went through its doors broke the law again — while nearly three-quarters of youngsters leaving prison now reoffend within 12 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jen-in-Wellies Posted October 16, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Mac of Cygnet said: but it seems canal boat holidays lead to a criminal career. All too true. Jen in Wellies, HMP Holloway 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerra Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Alan de Enfield said: Just three out of ten young offenders who went through its doors broke the law again — while nearly three-quarters of youngsters leaving prison now reoffend within 12 months. There was also for younger offenders, "my school must be good, it's approved" (For those too young to understand there were "Approved School" for younger people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudds Lad Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 41 minutes ago, Jen-in-Wellies said: All too true. Jen with Cellies, HMP Holloway not sure wellies are approved HMP footwear, you'll have to change your username for the remainder of your sentence 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Dog Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Jen-in-Wellies said: All too true. Jen in Wellies, HMP Holloway You'll have to change your moniker to "Jen in leaky wellies" now they've taken the laces out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 3 hours ago, Mac of Cygnet said: This from the Times today: At the age of 15 Clinton Bowen was dubbed Canal Boat Boy after social services sought to cure him of his criminal instincts by sending him on a holiday on the waterways. The effort at restorative justice, taken back in 1997, proved divisive and turned Bowen, along with others who received similar treatment, into a tabloid phenomenon. More than two decades on, it has also proven unsuccessful. Bowen was jailed this week for his part in a £127,000 theft of jewellery and artifacts from Sudeley Castle, where gifts from Edward VII to his mistress Alice Keppel, the Duchess of Cornwall’s great-grandmother, were on display. I don't remember Canal Boat Boy, but it seems canal boat holidays lead to a criminal career. Should have sent him to Borstal then he would have probably been killing people and dealing drugs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Marshall Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 8 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said: Typical 'soft justice' sen 'em on a nice holiday, next time they want a holiday they just break the law again. Borstel - that was the answer. Abolishing the under the 1982 Criminal Justice Act was a act of Folly. Lock 'em up !! "Bring Back Borstal" was set up to question why the system — abolished in 1982 — was so effective in preventing criminals from reoffending. Just three out of ten young offenders who went through its doors broke the law again — while nearly three-quarters of youngsters leaving prison now reoffend within 12 months. Privatising the probation service didn't help much. And i suspect that a lot more than 3 out of 10 broke the law again - they'd just learned enough tricks inside so they didn't get caught! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Vectis Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 Said in the Torygraph that 'social services sent him on a canal boat holiday that cost the taxpayer £12,000' I know hiring can be seen as expensive, but £12 grand, and in 1997? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Victor Vectis said: Said in the Torygraph that 'social services sent him on a canal boat holiday that cost the taxpayer £12,000' I know hiring can be seen as expensive, but £12 grand, and in 1997? He had 12 minders and a back-up support staff of another 12 to cover shift changes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Gwilliams Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 58 minutes ago, Arthur Marshall said: And i suspect that a lot more than 3 out of 10 broke the law again - they'd just learned enough tricks inside so they didn't get caught! Perhaps they are the ones who don't pay licence fees or cc up tributaries Oh I'm in so much trouble now ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebulae Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 Heswall Nautical Training School (Approved School) trained inmates to join the Merchant Navy. Once they were at sea,the potential for mischeif was much trduced. Do we have a Merchant Navy now?Seem to be very few British crew members on ships visiting our ports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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