Jump to content
Strawberry Orange Banana Lime Leaf Slate Sky Blueberry Grape Watermelon Chocolate Marble
Strawberry Orange Banana Lime Leaf Slate Sky Blueberry Grape Watermelon Chocolate Marble

Featured Posts

I am puting oak trim around the boat, currently pine cr@p, butt joins are horrid, I'd like to scarf them for aesthetic reasons, any images/advice [skills limited], angle cutter available.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You need 2 tools. An angle gauge and a 5 to 6 inch face sander. The gauge will allow you to bisect the angle in question, you then this transfer this angle to the sander and produce the exact angle. Can't produce links but you should be able to find both tools on line. The resulting joint, rather like a mitre will be perfect regardless of the actual angle.   

Edited by Slim

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
35 minutes ago, Slim said:

You need 2 tools. An angle gauge and a 5 to 6 inch face sander. The gauge will allow you to bisect the angle the measurement of which you transfer to the sander and produce the exact angle. Can't produce links but you should be able to find both tools on line. The resulting joint, rather like a mitre will be perfect regardless of the actual angle.   

Or at a push just use a mitre saw. A 45 degree joint will look better than a butt joint. 60 degrees is better but few mitre saws will go that far. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

LadyG,

I found a version of the gauge I've got on e bay. 'Big Horn 19050 Angle divider' . It comes from the US as did mine many years ago, 

  • Happy 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, WotEver said:

Or at a push just use a mitre saw. A 45 degree joint will look better than a butt joint. 60 degrees is better but few mitre saws will go that far. 

The trouble when fitting a boat out is that very few angles are the same, I know, I did my entire boat🙂. If it's just a few joints and you don't want to spend too much the absolute minimum you need is a FINE draw saw. It gives you much more control than the finest tooth dovetail saw for cutting mouldings. At the risk of going on I can look at all the mouldings on my boat 20 years on and not see a single joint line. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
14 minutes ago, WotEver said:

Or at a push just use a mitre saw. A 45 degree joint will look better than a butt joint. 60 degrees is better but few mitre saws will go that far. 

I think it is a mitre saw, cuts 45/135 not sure of extremes, will find out what a face sander is, or is it an ordinary sander?

I have a sort of flexible saw, fine scarf. 

Edited by LadyG

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Blend in the butt joins by scribing with a pencil many more fake butt joins every couple of inches, this should make the true butt joins unnoticable. :closedeyes:.

  • Greenie 1
  • Haha 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

For 'face sander' try e bay under  'bench disc sander'. Parkside are coming up at about £50. I've seen them in Lidl /Aldi for less but luck of the draw. Mine is a combination face/linishing machine. It weighs a ton, go foer a Parkside version.

 

Really must find out how to do links, photos etc

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Using stick on discs is a right faff. You can get a stick on Velcro pad (at least you can for 6 inch pads) then use Velcro backed discs . 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
55 minutes ago, Slim said:

Using stick on discs is a right faff. You can get a stick on Velcro pad (at least you can for 6 inch pads) then use Velcro backed discs . 

Hope they are better than the Velcro pad random orbital sander that someone recommended on here a year or two back. With that you only had to touch the disc on the paint to be sanded for a few seconds before the disc was flying off (into the canal as often as not), and after a few discs, the pad on the sander had lost so much Velcro material that discs would barely stick when stationary.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
55 minutes ago, David Mack said:

Hope they are better than the Velcro pad random orbital sander that someone recommended on here a year or two back. With that you only had to touch the disc on the paint to be sanded for a few seconds before the disc was flying off (into the canal as often as not), and after a few discs, the pad on the sander had lost so much Velcro material that discs would barely stick when stationary.

Well, the pad on my face sander is a good 18 + years old and it's still good if little used these days. I had to replace the pad on my Bosch orbital sander a couple of years ago after about 13 years but that's been lent all around the family. Suspect the motors on the way out now.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, WotEver said:

Here’s an eBay seller making a profit on Aldi’s price:

It would be tricky - Parkside is Lidl's brand!

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
17 minutes ago, TheBiscuits said:

It would be tricky - Parkside is Lidl's brand!

:P

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

just don't be tempted by one of those cheapy mitre boxes/guides from DIY stores, so much play in them that you'll never get the same angle twice!

  • Happy 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
22 hours ago, LadyG said:

I am puting oak trim around the boat, currently pine cr@p, butt joins are horrid, I'd like to scarf them for aesthetic reasons, any images/advice [skills limited], angle cutter available.

YouTube threw this at me yesterday - no idea why but search on 'How to create a scarf joint like a pro'. A bit of an advert and I'd need to watch it a few times more to understand a word of it but ..... 😕

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Opener said:

YouTube threw this at me yesterday - no idea why but search on 'How to create a scarf joint like a pro'. A bit of an advert and I'd need to watch it a few times more to understand a word of it but ..... 😕

That’s somewhat different - he’s talking about structural timbers. 
 

This little 1 minute vid shows a scarf made with a 45 degree mitre cut as I suggested earlier in the thread:

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
19 hours ago, WotEver said:

That’s somewhat different - he’s talking about structural timbers. 
 

 

Aaah! I assumed that 'scarf' referred to the partiklar compilkated joint he was making and would be transferrable to other sizes of timber/moulding. Wrong!!?  Just refers to end-to-end joining. Hey-ho!9

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
20 hours ago, Opener said:

YouTube threw this at me yesterday - no idea why but search on 'How to create a scarf joint like a pro'. A bit of an advert and I'd need to watch it a few times more to understand a word of it but ..... 😕

In my mind it is the structural type, I've seen it on boats, proper wooden boats.

The one I am thinking about start at 90 degrees, the 60 then 90, and that is the face.

Edited by LadyG

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
31 minutes ago, LadyG said:

The one I am thinking about start at 90 degrees, the 60 then 90, and that is the face.

You don’t want that type on mouldings - you’d never succeed in getting it anywhere near clean. A simple angled joint as per that little vid I linked is all that you require. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
35 minutes ago, WotEver said:

You don’t want that type on mouldings - you’d never succeed in getting it anywhere near clean. A simple angled joint as per that little vid I linked is all that you require. 

I could do a simple 30/60 and pencill in two 90s 😜

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I have done it many a time with just four G c;lamps with packing to protect the wood. Over lap the two timbers and get a good fine saw and cut at the angle you want. Now i have a good miter saw that the way now.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
40 minutes ago, LadyG said:

I could do a simple 30/60 and pencill in two 90s 😜

What purpose do you suppose the 90 degree bits will achieve?  All they’ll do is make it look like a butt joint again - because that’s what the face will be. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, W+T said:

I have done it many a time with just four G c;lamps with packing to protect the wood. Over lap the two timbers and get a good fine saw and cut at the angle you want. Now i have a good miter saw that the way now.

I have a mitre saw, just wanted something arty-crafty

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.