Alan de Enfield

The 12v outlet on the Jennifer will (probably) be around 6-10 amps. You can plug a 50 amp mains - 12v battery charger into the mains outlet and get a lot more amps for your £ of petrol.

As the RCD decision was published in 2022, it would hardly be likely to quote a 2025 ISO. The ISO 2025 issue you pasted says the same as the 2022 RCD decision, ie follow ISO 9094 and the manufacturers installation instructions

It looks pretty much as if the ISO 23625 2025 is simply following on from the 2021 version and ISO 9094, as quoted by the RCD in a question regarding Lithium batteries in 2022 Ie : Install following the manufacturers instructions

I was suggesting that if boating authorities got their act together and had 'united disussions' something less resrictive may result. as the ISO decisions are agreed by organisations representing 'millions of boaters' Power in Numbers !! I'm more surprised you didn't pick up on - Who has issued approval for LFP on yachts, or vice versa, who has refused approval for other types ?

I believe that only exists in the UK you may need to check that out. It should still have a VAT certificate showing the rate of VAT charged is Zero Ie - it is zero rated boat (in the UK) as opposed to a standard rated boat. It is not VAT exempt. Correct terminology is very important. Hmmm- why not buy one over there it will be cheaper and have all of the proper documentation - the only problem is that if you bring it back to the UK you will probably have to pay 20% VAT on it.

300,000 leisure boats in GB, all of which (presumably) have insurance There is a big world out there - not just C&RT. There are over 6,000,000 recreational boats registered in Europe - many of which (I'm guessing) will be insured and fall under the RCD and ISO specifications which GB inland boaters tend to dismiss. Anyone on the forum insuring a boat in the EU ? What is their recent requirements for Lithium batteries ? When asking AI about liyhium batteries on boats in France the reply is : Insurance requirements for lithium batteries on a boat in France In France, insurance requirements for lithium batteries on boats are becoming stricter due to the increasing number of battery fires. Here are the key points to consider: Contact Insurers: Boat owners should contact their insurers before switching to lithium batteries to check if their insurance will still be valid. Safety Protocols: Insurers are scrutinizing lithium-ion battery use, crew training, and safety protocols. Compliance with specific safety protocols is required for insurance coverage to remain valid. Loss Control Surveys: Insurers are mandating loss control surveys for yacht owners, which involve in-person inspections and evaluations of the yacht's equipment, safety protocols, crew knowledge, and overall preparedness. Policy Subjectivities: Insurers are writing subjectivities into yacht policies that state yacht owners and crew must adhere to specific safety protocols for the insurance coverage to remain valid. Policy Evolution: There is no standard approach to policy language specific to lithium-ion battery risks, and insurers are reevaluating their underwriting practices to address the escalating threat of lithium-ion battery fires. Boat owners in France should stay informed about these requirements and ensure their vessels comply with the latest safety standards to protect against potential insurance claims. And when doing intenet searches in the yachting world ................... The MCA recently issued a guidance note on lithium battery installation to give a framework for best practice. While the advice leans towards commercially coded yachts, it highlights more general concern around lithium technology. Since lithium has become more mainstream, there have been a number of fires on yachts, some causing a total loss. The note covers key aspects including installation process, system design, ventilation and cooling – all potential vulnerabilities of a lithium system. The message overall is that a lithium installation, whether retrofit or on a new build yacht, should be taken seriously. At present, the only type of lithium batteries approved for installation on yachts are Lithium-Iron-Phosphate or LFP. Whilst it might be tempting to use cheaper lithium varieties such as nickel or cobalt, these are far more vulnerable to thermal runaway – an uncontrolled series of reactions which cause a rapid increase in temperature, and often an uncontrolled fire. Installing batteries incorrectly can automatically invalidate your yacht’s insurance policy. What constitutes a correct installation is more layered than with older battery technology, but insurance companies have been clear they’re not inherently opposed to owners using lithium. High current levels, a need for safe containment in case of failure and the need for a proper battery management system mean that it’s important to seek expert advice and/or installation. And more detailed information, including several paragraphs by William Taryn William Taryn was a firefighter in both California and Mallorca before starting to teach firefighting to yacht crew. He now has his own fire safety training business in Palma, Maritime Safety Solutions, while remaining a serving firefighter in the city. Over the past few years he has become heavily involved in yacht lithium battery safety, and, been involved in lithium boat fire investigations. https://www.yachtingworld.com/all-latest-posts/lithium-battery-fires-the-10-point-safety-checklist-every-boat-owner-needs-160875

Are you looking at a 'trip' over to Europe and then bringing it back, or, taking it over and leaving it there whilst you 'commute', or will you be living permanently aboard ? What sort of boat is it (make / model) ? What age is the boat ? Europe is extremely 'hot' on RCD paperwork has it got a certificate of compliance ? Does it have the certificate of location dated/timed Dec 31st 2020 at 11:00 pm which is when we finally left the EU You will almost certainly need a certificate of payment of VAT Depending on which country(s) you plan on cruising there may well be Radio (Marine VHF) licence requirements for the boat and the operator. Black water holding tank ? Your qualifications ? It is bad enough having the correct 'paperwork' for just a short couple of days visit. Join the RYA or DBA for up to date specific country information

You forgot the "boat location certificate" for 11pm (UTC) on the 31st December 2020

And, that being the case, then there is no option but to have a PCA if the boat was built post 1998. PCA costs have been reported as being between £3k and £5k

And its time that the BSS management 'put their foot down' and got the examiners to work to the check list. No interpretation or personal thoughts on what should be included, do it properly or 'walk'. I had similar issues with the Police interpreting the firearms legislation rather than enforcing the laws as they stand. The Fireams Manager left (Retired) a couple of weeks after my complaint and discussion with the Chief Constable. Shame the BSS don't have the 'guts' to do the same.

Well that's news. Fleas (particularly if a dog has been on the boat) and bed bugs seem to manage it. Incontinence and that 'stuff' that glows under UV light

My bowser has abut 700 / 800 litres of Red in it - I wonder if it'll get to the stage of considering 'road use' ?

It is getting to be something that needs consideration - a few days ago swmbo, went to see a friend at Melton Mowbray - the garages were rationing diesel to £30 (about 18 litres) she used more than that getting there - other garages had nil stock of Diesel. The Government say "don't panic there is no problem with fuel", whilst the fuel industry bodies say "the country has approximately 3 weeks supply of Diesel and Jet fuel" Our local village independent garage is now £1.96/litre. (Diesel) EV owners get revenge as Diesel owners get struck down with 'range anxiety'.

Thank you My speed reading totally missed that. Many, if not most, inland brokers have a 'box' in their boat details for the RCD - often it says "not known" but it is there.