Alan de Enfield

Which is why I asked which Marine 16 product you had used. If you had used the emuslified additive it makes the water molecules 'stick' to the fuel so they travel thru the injectors and engine and out the exhaust. I think it may be possible that the water in your filter could have de-emulsified / separated if it had been standing for a while. Grasping at straws. Does the diesel smell and feel like diesel ?

OK, but all the labels are pretty much identical except for a single line of small print. The liquid in the 'bug killer' bottle is clear (like water) The liquid in the "Complete" (removes lacquer and gum deposits but not 'Bug') is 'Rose' coloured The liquid in the "Injector Cleaner" is Very dark (black ?) Anyway If you got to the bottom of the tank - I don't think you have water in your fuel.

Unless the tank was totally empty when you 'filled up' whatever was in the bottom few inches will still be there. Marine 16 is the companies 'trade name' and all their products are 'labelled Marine 16' What was the actual product you used - there are several "additives" listed on their website

Are you by any chance adding one of those weird water emulsifiers into your fuel (not biocide bug killer) ?

If you are sure you got water out of the filter drain, then you have water in the fuel. In the sample in the bottle there does not appear to be any water - therefore when you pumped some out of the tank, the end of the hose was not below the water/fuel interface and you just got fuel. Push you pipe in until you feel it hit bottom, then remove some "fuel" and see if that settles out. You may only have a couple of inches of water - I had over 200 litres of water in my tank. When you say you refiled your tank from empty - do you really mean the tank was empty, or there was no fuel ciming from the tank to the filter - the fuel to filter pick up pipe (inside the tank) is normally several inches off the bottom of the tank so as to avoid picking up muck, rust, rubbish and water. If you drained the tank until no fuel got to the filter, you probably have left 'inches' of water in the bottom of the tank. Ideally you should (properly) de-water your tank annually.

When you get water in your diesel it looks like this ; Diesel floats on the top of the water - you may have water in your fuel but that sample suggests you did not get your pick-up pipe down to the bottom of the tank That does not suggest water in the diesel

It would only be wrong if it was false ..... Libel refers to written defamation, meaning any false statement that harms someone’s reputation Your reputation is so poor that it could not be harmed by any statement.

Give it a rest and go and find someone else to annoy - you are pathetic !

But since that the rules have been amended, there are now three examples : While the “old” Directive considered the action of “placing on the market and/or putting into service”, the new Directive broadens the scope to the action of “making available”. All three concepts are now defined by the Directive. A product is made available on the market when supplied for distribution, consumption or use A product is placed on the market when it is made available for the first time on the market. The operation is reserved either for a manufacturer or an importer as the manufacturer and the importer are the only economic operators who place products on the market When you come to sell a secondhand boat, a distributor, a broker or private seller are now "making it available on the market".

Once they have signed it off and used their 'number' they take a responsiblity for the boat complying - obviously they are not responsible if someone has done a DIY install of lithium batteries subsequent to the certificate being issued. Surely it is the list of standards* issued by the RCD *Or alternative methods that achieve the same standards as the ISO Use of the listed ISO standards give 'automatic compliance' RECREATIONAL CRAFT SECTORAL GROUP (RSG) GUIDELINES 2023 SG Copyright © 2023 European Communities, Prepared by Recreational Craft Sectoral Group (RSG) Technical Secretariat, c/o Abertech snc Via Dante 48, 38068 Rovereto (TN) ITALY Tel: +39 0464 486333, Fax: +39 0464 350380 Where suitable standards are not available, the RSG has established uniform guidelines to assist with demonstrating conformity with the Essential Requirements of the Directive. The RSG Guidelines will be reviewed when suitable standards become available and amended as necessary. The list of harmonised standards in support of the RCD is available on the RSG website www.rsg.be. It should be noted that Article 14 of the Directive recommends the use of harmonised standards as this ensures presumption of conformity with the Essential Requirements of the Directive. RSG urges the industry and Notified Bodies to use harmonised standards. Harmonised standards are standards adopted by the European standardisation organisations and the references of these adopted standards have to be published in the Official Journal of the European Union and to be transposed into national standards by the Member States. The use of harmonised standards is voluntary. Article 31: Presumption of conformity Where a conformity assessment body demonstrates its conformity with the criteria laid down in the relevant harmonised standards or parts thereof the references of which have been published in the Official Journal of the European Union it shall be presumed to comply with the requirements set out in Article 30 in so far as the applicable harmonised standards cover those requirements.

The hydraulic oil used in general agricultural machiney, diggers, JCBs etc is "Hydraulic 32" oil (other grades such as 46 etc etc exist but are for specialist applications)

You can employ a surveyor to 'sign off' the work and at the end he will issue a HIN, certificate of compliance etc - he effectively becomes the 'builder'. What do you think a PCA is, who does it and what is the outcome ? The PCA is to check that a boat without the necessary paperwork, HIN, DIY build etc etc is actually compliant, or not. It is undertaken by a qualified surveyor ( not Fred from 'boats r us' who does you pre purchase survey) Assuming it is compliant then a new HIN is issued and a manual produced using the surveyor as the manufacturer and his 'number' forms part of the HIN Post Construction Assessment (PCA) is a process under the Recreational Craft Regulations (RCR) whereby the craft is independently assessed for conformity to the RCR. The assessment cannot be undertaken by a private individual, with trained inspectors the only route. A PCA is often undertaken for craft fitted-out by the first owner, or when work has been undertaken and there is no economic operator (business) to certify the work. The PCA process involves close inspection of the craft, normally with the craft in the water: this inspection is often for a whole day. The inspection assesses the craft against the RCR requirements and requirements within relevant standards associated with the RCR. It is at a more detailed level than that undertaken for a Boat Safety Scheme examination. Often the inspection highlights areas of non-compliance that have to be addressed. At the end of the PCA process, an Owner's Manual is provided, and a Post Construction Conformity Report is produced to show compliance with the RCR. Linked to the report is a new Builder's Plate and Watercraft Identification Number (WIN), that have to be fitted to the craft.

If only everyone doing a DIY fitout employed a surveyor to oversee their work (like the council come out and at various stages to inspect your house being built.) life would be so much easier, and it'd be signed off as compliant by the surveyor.

I now understand your question. GB is one of the few countries in the world that does not have boat registration under Government control (certainly mainland Europe- seems to have) the HIN/WIN/CIN is used on the boat registration as its 'identifier' The RCD/RCR is used across many countries - we are an 'outlier'. Here is the Government registration document from Croatia for my "Cat" - you can see the RCD HIN is part of the registration. So, similar to a car, the VIN number is quoted in the logbook/registration documents, and a 'number plate' number is allocated to the vehicle. In the case of the "Cat" the 'number plate' is "KR1463" which must be displayed on both side of the bow : I disagree - the certificate of compliance with the RCD/RCR is the "RCD Certificate", and is issued with every boat built in conformance with the RCD/RCR. If you have a PCA, then you will get a new certificate of compliance (assuming it is compliant)

Not exactly - the BMF notify Trading Standards who are responsible for the actual enforcement, but there have been few cases taken to court. A forum member has been involved in several court cases, so some action is being taken. The BMF have been active in ensuring that their members and Brokers apply 'the law' and many now in insist on either RCD/RCR documentation, or a PCA to ensure compliance. ABNB Brokers statement Statement re Self builds and sailaways. RCD compliance The exception to the above, is for a vessel that has been self-built in its entirety (including the shell) by a DIY boatbuilder for their own personal use. However, if the vessel is placed on the market within 5 years, it must be CE marked to satisfy the requirements of the RCR (RCD). The vessel does not have to be complete for the 5 year period to start, but does have to have been used as a boat (e.g. cruised on a waterway). The '5-year rule' does not apply to a private boatbuilder who is building a boat for their own use from a shell or sailaway that has been purchased from a professional builder. These vessels have to be assessed under Post Construction Assessment by an Approved Body when put into service. In the Inland Waterways, the industry as a whole believed that a self-fitted out boat fell under the 5-year rule, ie. as long as the boat owner kept the boat for 5 years, it did not need to comply with the RCD and could be sold legally. However, a recent Independent legal review and clarification from Trading Standards in early 2024 has highlighted that this is not the case. A forum post from 2021 re a boat for sale on ebay It turns out that the boat had to be withdrawn from sale as it was not RCD compliant (being a self-build) and under 5 years old. The BMF contacted the seller and explained that it could not be sold without a PCA (Post Construction Assessment), it is now going thru a PCA (cost around £2k if it passes, or £2k plus rectification costs if it fails) and will then be going on sale via a brokerage. And another one from September 2021 hi all,a friend of mine is going to sell her 2018 widebeam, she fitted it out herself and is a live aboard,after having a word with the local broker she was told that before it can be sold it would have to be inspected and have an RCD certificate and the price of this is nearly three grand,does this sound right? many thanks Other examples :