dor Posted June 11, 2012 Report Posted June 11, 2012 I mentioned in another post this morning about being hit at Upton-upon-Severn by a drifting boat at 6 AM. The boat, Shirley Ann of Calcutt, has been caught by the gravel operators just south of Upton and is tied to one of their barges. It is floating, but listing quite badly. Anyone know who this boat belongs to?
RLWP Posted June 11, 2012 Report Posted June 11, 2012 If she is 'of Calcutt' perhaps the marina will know: http://www.calcuttboats.com/ Richard
Dovetail Posted June 11, 2012 Report Posted June 11, 2012 (edited) Just back on the boat after loosening the ropes on three boats close to me on the river Brent it is high and still rising. I fitted a third rope to one boat and had to remove the center line on another and use it on the stern as the rope it had at the stern was badly frayed and looked like it would not last long. Edited June 11, 2012 by Dovetail
Old Son Posted June 11, 2012 Report Posted June 11, 2012 "had to remove the center line on another and use it on the stern as the rope it had at the stern was badly frayed and looked like it would not last long" Some people shouldn't own boats!
ditchcrawler Posted June 11, 2012 Report Posted June 11, 2012 "had to remove the center line on another and use it on the stern as the rope it had at the stern was badly frayed and looked like it would not last long" Some people shouldn't own boats! Unfortunately I have to moor our boat using a centre rope as we moor bow or stern on at 90 deg. to the bank with a mooring post about 35ft. out. I leave it so slack I almost touch the adjoining boat for fear of the level rising.
RLWP Posted June 11, 2012 Report Posted June 11, 2012 Unfortunately I have to moor our boat using a centre rope as we moor bow or stern on at 90 deg. to the bank with a mooring post about 35ft. out. I leave it so slack I almost touch the adjoining boat for fear of the level rising. I think the judgement was on the frayed rope. Richard
Dovetail Posted June 11, 2012 Report Posted June 11, 2012 The center rope on the boat was not in use at the time and to remove it was all I could do other than use some spare rope of my boat. The stern rope had been looped round a gap between the old rail track and concrete pilings and with the force of water and the gap then becoming less this I think had started to fray the rope and besides it was wedged tight and I did not want to pull on the rope it did loosen a bit and the boat leveled and released the pressure on the rope so I then used the center rope as insurance. Better that than a 50' boat wedged across the cut.
RLWP Posted June 11, 2012 Report Posted June 11, 2012 The center rope on the boat was not in use at the time and to remove it was all I could do other than use some spare rope of my boat. The stern rope had been looped round a gap between the old rail track and concrete pilings and with the force of water and the gap then becoming less this I think had started to fray the rope and besides it was wedged tight and I did not want to pull on the rope it did loosen a bit and the boat leveled and released the pressure on the rope so I then used the center rope as insurance. Better that than a 50' boat wedged across the cut. Thank you for that. I suspected that it was the flooding that had frayed the rope Richard
NB Willawaw Posted June 11, 2012 Report Posted June 11, 2012 I re-transmitted this on Facebook. Apparently the owner is now being informed and has been looking for her.
Cheshire cat Posted June 11, 2012 Report Posted June 11, 2012 I re-transmitted this on Facebook. Apparently the owner is now being informed and has been looking for her. Does that count as another "found boat" success story for the forum then?
dor Posted June 11, 2012 Author Report Posted June 11, 2012 I re-transmitted this on Facebook. Apparently the owner is now being informed and has been looking for her. That's good news. I hope the boat is ok. It hit us with what sounded like a hell of a bang, but I don't think I've sustained any damage apart from a bit of scuffed paint.
ditchcrawler Posted June 11, 2012 Report Posted June 11, 2012 Is this it http://www.canalworld.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=47757&pid=887799&st=0entry887799
matty40s Posted June 11, 2012 Report Posted June 11, 2012 (edited) Is this it http://www.canalworld.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=47757&pid=887799&st=0entry887799 probably is seeing it has shirley ann - calcutt fairly clear on the side, there can't be too many with that name. A scary experience for the owner, and I hope his boat surived the trip without too much damage, most water ingress probably occuring where the orange floats held her at that angle, rather than over the wier where it used to be practice for the working boats to go over them in flood. There are orange monstrosities like this now on the Soar, I am not sure whether in a flood situation and no choice, I wouldn't rather shoot the wier or be trapped by one of those. Edited June 11, 2012 by matty40s
Grace and Favour Posted June 11, 2012 Report Posted June 11, 2012 I mentioned in another post this morning about being hit at Upton-upon-Severn by a drifting boat at 6 AM. The boat, Shirley Ann of Calcutt, has been caught by the gravel operators just south of Upton and is tied to one of their barges. It is floating, but listing quite badly. Anyone know who this boat belongs to? Is this it http://www.canalworl...=0 Does this mean that the gravel operators let it loose again???????
Theo Posted June 12, 2012 Report Posted June 12, 2012 probably is seeing it has shirley ann - calcutt fairly clear on the side, there can't be too many with that name. A scary experience for the owner, and I hope his boat surived the trip without too much damage, most water ingress probably occuring where the orange floats held her at that angle, rather than over the wier where it used to be practice for the working boats to go over them in flood. There are orange monstrosities like this now on the Soar, I am not sure whether in a flood situation and no choice, I wouldn't rather shoot the wier or be trapped by one of those. It all depends. If you know the weir at Mountsorrel you would not wish to shoot that. And if you shot the wier some way above Mountsorrel you would end up in a shallow ditch and go nowhere. Nick
matty40s Posted June 12, 2012 Report Posted June 12, 2012 It all depends. If you know the weir at Mountsorrel you would not wish to shoot that. And if you shot the wier some way above Mountsorrel you would end up in a shallow ditch and go nowhere. Nick the Mountsorrel wier is indeed a steep beast, but it is a long way past the lock and I am sure that I could hook a line over someones boat before getting anywhere near that. I was referring to the orange monstrocity above pillings that has appeared in the last 12 months, which in a similar Soar flood situation could result in a similar event.
Ange Posted June 12, 2012 Report Posted June 12, 2012 We were really shocked at how quickly the water rose on the Soar. We left Iona opposite Redhill Marina the weekend before last to visit Kent. When we left the top of the bank was about three quarters of the way to the top of her windows, it was quite a climb up to get out of the boat. When we came back a week later she was almost floating off the river onto the bank! A bit of an exaggeration maybe but the water was lapping over the bank and we had a big climb up into the boat. A salutary lesson to be a bit wary of leaving your boat on rivers! I must add that we had the lovely Roxy from the forum keeping a close eye for us, plus she enlisted the crew of Willow moored nearby. Both loosened ropes when required.
matty40s Posted June 12, 2012 Report Posted June 12, 2012 We were really shocked at how quickly the water rose on the Soar. We left Iona opposite Redhill Marina the weekend before last to visit Kent. When we left the top of the bank was about three quarters of the way to the top of her windows, it was quite a climb up to get out of the boat. When we came back a week later she was almost floating off the river onto the bank! A bit of an exaggeration maybe but the water was lapping over the bank and we had a big climb up into the boat. A salutary lesson to be a bit wary of leaving your boat on rivers! I must add that we had the lovely Roxy from the forum keeping a close eye for us, plus she enlisted the crew of Willow moored nearby. Both loosened ropes when required. I know, Kathy's boat at Sileby normally sits two feet below the piling tops,it is only three weeks since I had to walk almost knee deep along the access road to get to the boat.
luctor et emergo Posted June 12, 2012 Report Posted June 12, 2012 Snip.... A salutary lesson to be a bit wary of leaving your boat on rivers! I must add that we had the lovely Roxy from the forum keeping a close eye for us, plus she enlisted the crew of Willow moored nearby. Both loosened ropes when required. You should only leave your boat on a river, if moored on a floating pontoon, or attached to risers. Even if you have somebody looking after your lines, it does become their problem to avoid it ending up on the bank...
Ange Posted June 12, 2012 Report Posted June 12, 2012 You should only leave your boat on a river, if moored on a floating pontoon, or attached to risers. Even if you have somebody looking after your lines, it does become their problem to avoid it ending up on the bank... yep you're absolutely right and we learned a valuable lesson. We were very lucky this time and will definitely not make the same mistake again - in this instance everything was fine but it could have been horrible, especially as the boat is our home with all our personal possessions aboard. We were lucky that we were taught a lesson without any nasty consequences. It would have been absolutely our fault if it'd gone wrong, I agree.
Naughty Cal Posted June 13, 2012 Report Posted June 13, 2012 You should only leave your boat on a river, if moored on a floating pontoon, or attached to risers. Even if you have somebody looking after your lines, it does become their problem to avoid it ending up on the bank... I shall pass on your advice to this lot Although they seem to manage just fine without floating pontoons or risers
cheshire~rose Posted June 13, 2012 Report Posted June 13, 2012 I shall pass on your advice to this lot Although they seem to manage just fine without floating pontoons or risers But do they "leave" their boats there? Ok probably for some hours but if they were aware of level changes being likely I suspect they would not be going away for a few days without ensuring one of the crew was around to monitor the situation
carlt Posted June 13, 2012 Report Posted June 13, 2012 But do they "leave" their boats there? Ok probably for some hours but if they were aware of level changes being likely I suspect they would not be going away for a few days without ensuring one of the crew was around to monitor the situation I was happy to leave the lifeboat here for weeks on end, if necessary. The average rise and fall here was about 8 feet, twice a day, though sometimes you could touch the top of the telegraph poles from the deck.
Naughty Cal Posted June 13, 2012 Report Posted June 13, 2012 But do they "leave" their boats there? Ok probably for some hours but if they were aware of level changes being likely I suspect they would not be going away for a few days without ensuring one of the crew was around to monitor the situation Yes they leave their boats there. That is their home moorings. They are fully aware of level changes because the river Witham at this point is tidal They set their ropes to allow for the rise and fall of the tide and they manage this without the aid of floating pontoons or sliders. They set their ropes properly. Some of these boats move for months on end. They dont leave crew onboard the whole time.
Boondock Posted June 13, 2012 Report Posted June 13, 2012 I shall pass on your advice to this lot Although they seem to manage just fine without floating pontoons or risers Nice Photo Phylis. Brings back memories of my ten years in Boston including attendance and non attendance at the Grammar School just round the next bend. At the top of the wall you see there they used to unload their catch of cockles mussels and welks. From my recollection the boats used to moor on the opposite side of the river which was exposed as mud at low tide, they now appear to moor in the channel. There used to be a nice fishing boat "Kingfisher" moored here which I used to dream of owning when I went past looking out of the top of the school bus. Two bits of useless information (to go with the above) a) you've just come under the swing bridge which made its film debut in One of our aircraft is missing (1942) in the film you get a good glimpse of the Stump as well. b)I believe a lad in my class went on to become the Port Manager. Boondock
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