Nelson end of an era

[mrsmelly]

2 minutes ago, MJG said:

Seems fine to me.

 

Wainwrights is a fave of mine, but each to their own.

I have to admit that for a basic suppable beer if proper stuff like Taylors is not available then I too quite like Wainrights though I would never unlike you admit it on a public forum ?

[Guest]

The pub in our local village that I think some on here would really love was demolished this week.

 

Nuff said

[Mac of Cygnet]

6 minutes ago, MJG said:

The pub in our local village that I think some on here would really love was demolished this week.

 

Nuff said

 

That's a great pity, but not 'Nuff said'.  Without knowledge of the reasons for this happening, we are in the dark as to the point you are making.

[Guest]

Just now, Mac of Cygnet said:

 

That's a great pity, but not 'Nuff said'.  Without knowledge of the reasons for this happening, we are in the dark as to the point you are making.

I thought it was obvious?

 

It was a 'traditional' pub with a dart board and a pool table. That was about it.

 

It didn't really make any effort, changed hands a few times and then died.

 

[MtB]

2 minutes ago, Mac of Cygnet said:

 

That's a great pity, but not 'Nuff said'.  Without knowledge of the reasons for this happening, we are in the dark as to the point you are making.

 

I think the point is pubs need to to turn themselves into novelty event venues to survive. Apparently. 

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said:

 

I think the point is pubs need to to turn themselves into novelty event venues to survive. Apparently. 

 

Well not quite Mike, so I see no need for any silliness.

 

The point is that the pubs of managers who think creatively survive.

 

The pubs of managers who do not, often don't.

 

Eg So if over a few morning's you run breakfast with Santa and bring in accompanying adults with the kids you are building a customer base.

 

Simple really.

Edited November 3, 2018 by MJG

[MtB]

9 minutes ago, MJG said:

 

Well not quite Mike, so I see no need for any silliness.

 

The point is that the pubs of managers who think creatively survive.

 

The pubs of managers who do not, often don't.

 

Eg So if over a few morning's you run breakfast with Santa and bring in accompanying adults with the kids you are building a customer base.

 

Simple really.

 

You miss my point completely, as usual.

 

I think you do it deliberately. You're clearly an intelligent bloke. 

 

 

[Guest]

Just now, Mike the Boilerman said:

 

You miss my point completely, as usual.

 

I think you do it deliberately. You're clearly an intelligent bloke. 

 

 

No I did it because your point is not clear.

 

Care to clarify what it was.

[rowland al]

The way I see it -

 

Church’s and pubs always took a central place in villages and towns.

 

Both still (just about) survive because people want to spend time together (not quite so much because of the ‘management’ or the building). 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, rowland al said:

The way I see it -

 

Church’s and pubs always took a central place in villages and towns.

 

Both still (just about) survive because people want to spend time together (not quite so much because of the ‘management’ or the building). 

 

 

 

 

 

The Catholic church in our village was sold two or three years ago and was converted into 4 rather nice houses.

 

Make of that what you will.

[rowland al]

Just now, MJG said:

The Catholic church in our village was sold two or three years ago and was converted into 4 rather nice houses.

 

Make of that what you will.

Exactly, and the pubs are going the same way. 

 

So where are we all going to meet up? Facebook? 

 

 

 

 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, rowland al said:

Exactly, and the pubs are going the same way. 

 

So where are we all going to meet up? Facebook? 

 

 

 

 

Sadly probably.

 

Or in pubs that offer something to encourage us through the doors.

[rowland al]

Just now, MJG said:

Sadly probably.

 

Or in pubs that offer something to encourage us through the doors.

 - I was going to say churches need to do that too, but I suspect this is the wrong forum for that comment. 

 

Lots of shit has happened in both. But facebook is our saviour, so rejoice. ?

[Victor Vectis]

35 minutes ago, MJG said:

The Catholic church in our village was sold two or three years ago and was converted into 4 rather nice houses.

Didn't Henry VIII do something along those lines a while back?

[alan_fincher]

11 hours ago, WotEver said:

You’re talking largely about food. I’m talking about pubs - where one used to go for a few pints and a laugh with the lads.

No, I'm not talking "largely about food".  I'm talking about being in a pub for any reason, either just for a drink, or for a meal as well.

That said the food side is often how many of them are making themselves viable, and many of us would no longer chose to eat where we were subjected to cigarette smoke.

I don't agree that a smoking ban has killed the pub trade, and Bizz's observations do not align with many landlords I have talked to.

[alan_fincher]

2 hours ago, MJG said:

You miss the point.

 

Successful pubs diversify, pubs that fail do not.

Which is one of the reasons Spoons are so successful, (even if you hate them, or the person in control of them,  with a vengeance).

 

Breakfast crowd, (and a few alcoholics!) in the morning.

"Blue rinse" crowd on weekday lunchtimes.

After work brigade in the early evening.

Youth and bouncers in abundance later on busy evenings.

 

Unlike many pubs, Spoons usually have a fair number of people in at all time of the day, (despite the pro-Brexit propaganda you now have to walk past at the entrance of some of them).

 

 

1 hour ago, MJG said:

They usually have four rotating cask ales on tap. And a loyalty card too, you buy four pints of cask ales and get the 5th for free.

 

What's not to like?

Don't the rotating casks stir the beer up?

[WotEver]

9 minutes ago, alan_fincher said:

I don't agree that a smoking ban has killed the pub trade, and Bizz's observations do not align with many landlords I have talked to.

On this we shall have to disagree. My conversations with current and ex landlords coincide completely with Bizz’s observations. 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, WotEver said:

On this we shall have to disagree. My conversations with current and ex landlords coincide completely with Bizz’s observations. 

If true, surely it would have killed off lots of other places you could socialise. Cafes, restaurants etc.

 

Personally it's obvious to me it was the likes of ASDA, and Tesco.

[cuthound]

16 hours ago, MJG said:

Our local Marstons pub has been promoting itself on social media since before it was built. Mathew the manager is constantly drumming up stuff to draw people in, bingo, polka, race nights, charity events latest is 'breakfast with Santa' for the kids which of course will draw in accompanying adults.

 

I see very little that is similar from his competitors.

 

My local Marstons pub also has a "breakfast with Santa" for the kids, so it is probably a corporate initiative.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, cuthound said:

 

My local Marstons pub also has a "breakfast with Santa" for the kids, so it is probably a corporate initiative.

Very likely I would say.

[mrsmelly]

16 hours ago, rowland al said:

 

 

So where are we all going to meet up? Facebook? 

 

 

 

 

We are all at fault that we now basicaly only have supermarkets for food and petrol stations as we all used the damn places as we are lazy. If people persist in using the damned site known as Farcebook we probably will end up thinking its real and all 684 friends or whatever they are realy are your friends!! 

[rusty69]

2 minutes ago, mrsmelly said:

We are all at fault that we now basicaly only have supermarkets for food and petrol stations as we all used the damn places as we are lazy. If people persist in using the damned site known as Farcebook we probably will end up thinking its real and all 684 friends or whatever they are realy are your friends!! 

Wot, you mean internet 'friends' aren't real then?If that is the case,I will have to go back to chatting to my imaginary friends.

[Machpoint005]

18 hours ago, MJG said:

They usually have four rotating cask ales on tap. And a loyalty card too, you buy four pints of cask ales and get the 5th for free.

 

What's not to like?

 

18 hours ago, Victor Vectis said:

Marstons beer

If you haven't yet acquired a Burton palate (sulphur and all) you haven't been trying.

Marstons also brew Bass (!) and 'the best' IPA for Morrisons, although that one is pasteurised and therefore not real.