Machpoint005 Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 Since buying the boat in Sept 2011, I haven't used the stove between late March and early October. I've lit it almost every night on board this year and bought 3 bags of Excel the other day. Global warming has us in its grips? That's not global warming climate change, it's just weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkmoth Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 That's not global warming climate change, it's just weather. Yeah, whether the sun is shining or not! Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetman Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 I have an Eberspacher and while it's certainly not without its flaws, it will heat the boat up (and the water) a lot quicker than the wood/coal stove. (by the time i've cleaned it, loaded it up and got it going - that is) Though I wouldn't do without either. It's always nice to have a choice depending on the situation. My stove is currently stocked up with logs for next winter. Seems like a good place to store the logs. Agreed I have a Mikuni mx40 and 2 coal fires. Ebers webastos and mikunis do have a place on canal boats. They are much maligned but it's partly to do with knowing how to use them properly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickent Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 Cold and miserable here for the last three days, stove has been lit and central heating on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMModels Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 That's not global warming climate change, it's just weather. at what point does weather become climate change/global warming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john6767 Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 We got very wet on Stourbridge on Tuesday and lit the stove, kept in in until Wednesday evening. Been so hot since then, am baking and radish like in Glouatwt now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark99 Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 Our bote is well insulated. However the north wind was a killer combined with torrential rain. So we had to decide between central heating via diesel boiler or cosy log fire? Or just use the vintage diesel in engine room for heat to perculate through. Of course plastic boats have a similar choice too don't they? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bettie Boo Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 (edited) Our bote is well insulated. However the north wind was a killer combined with torrential rain. So we had to decide between central heating via diesel boiler or cosy log fire? Or just use the vintage diesel in engine room for heat to perculate through. Of course plastic boats have a similar choice too don't they? I'm struggling to picture a plastic boat with a "vintage diesel engine room" Mark .... I'm off to Google that now ETA - missing word Edited June 3, 2016 by Bettie Boo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymondh Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 Sat listening to radio TT all doors and windows open, 23 degrees inside 20 outside been the same for days, great here on the sunny Weaver Not had the stove lit since March Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyertribe Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 On the N. Welsh coast been 23+ for over a week now living in shorts & t shirts and avoiding going out round midday because of the heat. Only thing missing is a canal. Same here in sunny South Wales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 (edited) I have come to the conclusion that narrowboats must be cold. Your conclusion is correct in part. Larger interior spaces will always be more difficult to heat with a couple of people's body heat alone, so of course all other things being equal a smaller interior space like yours will feel warmer. Edited June 3, 2016 by Claude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 Agreed I have a Mikuni mx40 and 2 coal fires. Ebers webastos and mikunis do have a place on canal boats. They are much maligned but it's partly to do with knowing how to use them properly! As maligned as they are our little Webasto has never once let us down in 8 years. Great little heater. Our bote is well insulated. However the north wind was a killer combined with torrential rain. So we had to decide between central heating via diesel boiler or cosy log fire? Or just use the vintage diesel in engine room for heat to perculate through. Of course plastic boats have a similar choice too don't they? Of course we have a choice, Webasto, engine or solid fuel stove in the pub. Or just carry on as we were because we were already toasty and warm to start with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulG Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 at what point does weather become climate change/global warming? There isn't an exact point. Climate is just weather over a long period. How long that period is is largely a matter of opinion. Given that the UK weather is extremely variable, situated as we are between the tropics and the Arctic, almost any weather condition is possible. For example, on 2nd June 1975 at cricket matches in both Buxton and Chelmsford, snow stopped play. Sleet was reported as far south as Plymouth. Gleneagles (Perthshire) had a minimum temperature of -3.3 deg C, and snow lay for four days in parts of upland Scotland. However, 7 days later, on on June 9th Achneshellach (Western Ross) recorded a maximum of 28.9 deg C, then on June 12th the temperature rose to 30 deg C at Ellbridge in Cornwall. The weather forecasters have a habit of using the words "average" and "normal" interchangeably, although they clearly have completely different meanings. Just from 7 days of historical data we can see that "normal" for June in Scotland is anything between -3.3 degrees and 28.9 degrees. Nowadays almost any weather event seems to be identified as an effect of "global warming". Of course, in the 1970's when the events described above took place, we were being warned about the dangers of "global cooling". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted June 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 Of course, in the 1970's when the events described above took place, we were being warned about the dangers of "global cooling". Yes I remember that. I even remember wondering if one day the scientific view would flip around and they'd start doom mongering about the global overheating instead. I seem to remember the term back then being 'global dimming' though, as they were worried about all the particulates we were dumping into the atmosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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