BACK AGAIN!!! How about a barge for 60k??

[pinkiescot]

Okay, a super cheap boat is not going to cut it, so I'm going to up the budget to 60k cash buyer. Need a reasonable size of 2 bed barge. Anyone know of anything going for that amount of money will have cash mid-December, so I guess someone might be desperate to sell over winter??

 

Dimensions are 19m x 4m x 1.5 draft.

 

Def want a lounge with kitchen in. And I need to get it to Glasgow for that amount.

 

I know, it's still a big ask but possible.

 

Thanks!

 

 

[Alan de Enfield]

Trying to be constructive.

 

Your mooring is up to 4m beam so that's the limiting factor (say 12 feet)

Many true 'barges' are well over 12 feet beam.

You are actually looking at a 12 foot (maybe 13 foot) widebeam boat - not necessarily a 'Barge',

 

Go and have a look at some - irrespective of price - to see the space. You were absolutely horrified at the space on the 12' widebeam ( your quote was "That has left me rather speechless! It would never happen, I couldn't subject myself, let alone daughter and dog, to live on that for a year, it would be an apartment if that was our only option") that was proposed on your previous thread.

 

There will be little more room on a widebeam,/ barge so, get out and look at a few

Edited October 17, 2015 by Alan de Enfield

[pinkiescot]

okay, thanks.

[peterboat]

have a bit of a holiday down this direction visit new and used boat company and some others selling widebeams you will get a better idea of the space available the cost of moving it will be the problem i suspect but never say never bargains come up i know i bought one

[Southern Star]

have a bit of a holiday down this direction visit new and used boat company and some others selling widebeams you will get a better idea of the space available the cost of moving it will be the problem i suspect but never say never bargains come up i know i bought one

Yes, any wide beam boat, or narrowboat over about 50' (CBA to Google the exact length) becomes an Abnormal Load and then you are talking silly money to have it moved by road.

[magnetman]

Bear in mind a boat is never going to be the equivalent to an apartment

 

If you are limited to 19x4m you will not get a 'lot of space' unless you go for a houseboat or something with two levels (which would be deep in the water probably more than 1.5m). You might be able to get a 19x4m houseboat built and fitted for £60k (it does add up quick) or buy a relatively nackered barge for that money which is going to need a lot of ongoing attention.

 

Living on a boat is so completely different to living in a land based dwelling it is almost impossible to explain it. You have to -like- it and want and know how to do it.

 

I do (all of the above) but not everyone who considers living on a boat does and it is very important to understand this. It makes all the difference and can help avoid mistakes.

 

If living on a boat is purely a financial decision it is almost certainly the wrong one in my opinion but also probably the most common reason.

(BTW I live on a 17.5mx3.7m barge with my other half and two small children - its far too small in here )

Yes, any wide beam boat, or narrowboat over about 50' (CBA to Google the exact length) becomes an Abnormal Load and then you are talking silly money to have it moved by road.

I thought it was the width that made it an abnormal load.

I have only had two boats moved by road - 40x9ft and 24x8ft so I don't actually know but when I got a quote for moving my 57x12ft barge to eastern France it was about £7k abnormal wide load apparently

Or i got the wrong end of the stick

[Alan de Enfield]

Over 3.5mts wide but less than 4.3 metres wide :

 

Two Clear Working Days Notice to Police
Markers front and Rear
Additional lights required only during the hours of darkness or in poor visibility.
Attendant required

 

Over 3mts wide but less than 3.5 metres wide

 

Two Clear Working Days Notice to Police
Markers front and Rear
Additional lights required only during the hours of darkness or in poor visibility.

[Southern Star]

Pinkiescot, please don't take this the wrong way, but I honestly don't think that buying a boat would be a good idea for you. In every post you make you make comparisons to living in a house or flat, suggesting that you might be willing to make some small compromise just so long as boat-dwelling is prepared to meet you half-way.

 

Well, I'm afraid it won't be. Your best bet, for the sake of both yourself and your long-suffering daughter would be to buy a house or flat. Sorry if this sounds blunt, but that's the way I see it.

[Phil Ambrose]

Pinkiescot, please don't take this the wrong way, but I honestly don't think that buying a boat would be a good idea for you. In every post you make you make comparisons to living in a house or flat, suggesting that you might be willing to make some small compromise just so long as boat-dwelling is prepared to meet you half-way.

 

Well, I'm afraid it won't be. Your best bet, for the sake of both yourself and your long-suffering daughter would be to buy a house or flat. Sorry if this sounds blunt, but that's the way I see it.

Have to agree with SS on this unless you can put all thoughts of onshore accommodation out of your mind and embrace the (totally different) boating lifestyle. A comment I saw in another thread is worth repeating, living on s boat is like having a second full time job. I'm sure you have considered the fact that you may have to park your car a considerable way off, water tanks have to be filled often, fuel has to be carried to the boat along with shopping and everything else, electricity is another big issue unless your berth has shoreline hook up. Toilets need to be emptied as boats do not have mains drainage. In fact I'm putting myself off, good job I love the lifestyle.

Phil

Edited October 18, 2015 by Phil Ambrose

[kris88]

If you let some people on an Internet forum, posting negative replies put you off.

Then it probably isn't for you, but if you don't try you will never know.

You definately need to look at the transportation side of things, before looking at boats. This is the problematic aspect for you and might be the deal breaker.

 

 

Regards kris

[magnetman]

If you let some people on an Internet forum, posting negative replies put you off.

Then it probably isn't for you, but if you don't try you will never know.

You definately need to look at the transportation side of things, before looking at boats. This is the problematic aspect for you and might be the deal breaker.

 

 

Regards kris

I agree. I don't know Glasgow at all or the general situation but a steel canal boat or barge that size is going to be pretty heavy and if purchased in England it will most probably be road transported which means fairly technical craneage.

 

I didn't particularly see the comments as negative more cautionary

 

If there is a secure serviced mooring available I would advocate having a steel box houseboat built unless the intention is to cruise about but as I say I have no idea what the waterways are like up there.

[Phil Ambrose]

If you let some people on an Internet forum, posting negative replies put you off.

Then it probably isn't for you, but if you don't try you will never know.

You definately need to look at the transportation side of things, before looking at boats. This is the problematic aspect for you and might be the deal breaker.

 

 

Regards kris

Not negative comments, merely telling it like it is.

Phil

[kris88]

Not negative comments, merely telling it like it is.

Phil

According to you!

 

Regards kris

[haggis]

I agree with Phil, I think the posts on the original thread were mainly of the sort of "telling it like it is" and not scare mongering. The OP in her first (and subsequent) post indicated that she had little knowledge of living on a canal boat and I and others tried to be helpful and mention the downside of the lifestyle so that she could consider the full scenario. However, this was not well received and I for one discontinued trying to be helpful.

I live in Scotland and have a boat on the Lowland canals and have a fair idea of what I am talking about. It is a bit different up here from the canals down south.

 

I wish the OP well in her search for a boat which meets her requirements.

 

haggis

[Graham Davis]

According to you!

 

Regards kris

 

So instead of criticising others, kris, why don't you give a full explanation to the OP about what it is like?

I also see no examples of scaremongering.

[Naughty Cal]

Perhaps Kris could offer the OP some hints and tips on living on and cruising a boat of this size?

[kris88]

So instead of criticising others, kris, why don't you give a full explanation to the OP about what it is like?

I also see no examples of scaremongering.

Perhaps Kris could offer the OP some hints and tips on living on and cruising a boat of this size?

If you had actually read my post you would have noticed I offered some advice. Which is more than either of yourselves, are you both bored this afternoon?

 

Regards kris

Edited October 19, 2015 by kris88

[Naughty Cal]

So your only advice is to look at the transport side?

 

Boats are transported around the country all the time. It is hardly something new. It won't be cheap but it is hardly going to be a deal breaker.

Okay, a super cheap boat is not going to cut it, so I'm going to up the budget to 60k cash buyer. Need a reasonable size of 2 bed barge. Anyone know of anything going for that amount of money will have cash mid-December, so I guess someone might be desperate to sell over winter??

 

Dimensions are 19m x 4m x 1.5 draft.

 

Def want a lounge with kitchen in. And I need to get it to Glasgow for that amount.

 

I know, it's still a big ask but possible.

 

Thanks!

 

 

If you are willing to do some work yourself then there are plenty of boats here that would make lovely liveaboards.

 

http://www.alanpease.co.uk/boatsforsale.htm

[Guest]

So your only advice is to look at the transport side?

 

Boats are transported around the country all the time. It is hardly something new. It won't be cheap but it is hardly going to be a deal breaker.

If you are willing to do some work yourself then there are plenty of boats here that would make lovely liveaboards.

 

http://www.alanpease.co.uk/boatsforsale.htm

 

 

Sad to see some of the boats that used to work the Northern Waterways on that site.

 

Last time I saw this one it rattled the dishes off the draining board resulting in a fair bit of smashed crockery.

 

http://www.alanpease.co.uk/boats/littlekirkby.html

 

 

 

(yes I know I captioned the videos incorrectly)

Edited October 19, 2015 by MJG

[Naughty Cal]

Indeed. We have seen several on our travels that are now on that site.

 

Hopefully they can all soon find new homes.

[kris88]

As I suspected, a boring afternoon at work.

 

Regards kris

[Graham Davis]

As I suspected, a boring afternoon at work.

 

Regards kris

 

 

If you had actually read my post you would have noticed I offered some advice. Which is more than either of yourselves, are you both bored this afternoon?

 

Regards kris

 

So you have given the OP no advice about living on a boat then, but instead decide to make trolling comments against others.

 

You live on a wide boat so should be full of advice in this situation. I have given no advice because I have no experience of such boats and what general advice I would give has already been given.

 

I suggest you remove the chip off your shoulder.

[Flyboy]

 

 

 

So you have given the OP no advice about living on a boat then, but instead decide to make trolling comments against others.

 

You live on a wide boat so should be full of advice in this situation. I have given no advice because I have no experience of such boats and what general advice I would give has already been given.

 

I suggest you remove the chip off your shoulder.

I think you underestimate Kriss. He is obviously very level headed due to having a chip on both shoulders.

[Naughty Cal]

As I suspected, a boring afternoon at work.

 

Regards kris

So you have no advice for the OP and are instead just trolling once again?

[blackrose]

Yes, any wide beam boat, or narrowboat over about 50' (CBA to Google the exact length) becomes an Abnormal Load and then you are talking silly money to have it moved by road.

 

My 12ft widebeam cost an extra £200 for Liverpool Boats to move by road to Reading. That was 10 years ago. Haulage was meant to be part of the deal from NBC when I had it built, but they told me the extra fee was because 12ft was a wide load and would require an escort. When they arrived in Reading there was no escort and the driver told me he hadn't needed one.

 

Edited October 19, 2015 by blackrose