EE blocking this forum

[casper ghost]

I had the Shropshire Landrover forum blocked by EE yesterday?? I think they are having some trouble at EE. It said I could change by content settings, but i've already done that. Anyway, this morning, I can access the same site no problems...

Casp'

[pearley]

I've been blocked all yesterday by EE. Despite a long phone conversation with their technical people nothing was resolvedexceot that I've had to re-enter all my passwords as at one point they asked me go clear my history.

 

I don't reckon it was anything to do with the word 'anal' as I could look at Just Canals but not Canalworld. I was also blocked from Majestic Wine and Tesco Wine.

 

When this has happened in the past going to My EE and turning content lock on and then off would cure the problem but yesterday when I tried that it said system error.

 

However, I have always been able to connect through my phone which is also EE but 3G rather than 4G which my mifi is on.

[Guest]

I've been blocked all yesterday by EE. Despite a long phone conversation with their technical people nothing was resolvedexceot that I've had to re-enter all my passwords as at one point they asked me go clear my history.

I don't reckon it was anything to do with the word 'anal' as I could look at Just Canals but not Canalworld. I was also blocked from Majestic Wine and Tesco Wine.

When this has happened in the past going to My EE and turning content lock on and then off would cure the problem but yesterday when I tried that it said system error.

However, I have always been able to connect through my phone which is also EE but 3G rather than 4G which my mifi is on.

I don't think the current problems people seem to be having can be related to the 'anal' character string but that was definitely the issue described to me by orange (as was) when it first happened to me, though a while ago now.

[Jambo]

I believe the (utterly ridiculous and wrongheaded) porn filters are for new contracts only and are enabled as default (ETA: which might explain why some are blocked and some aren't.). You have to get in contact with your provider to disable it.

 

It's very wrong indeed.

Edited September 19, 2014 by Jambo

[bottle]

It may well be 'ON' by default but this was not the problem with EE, they had a 'glitch' in there system.

 

I have been with them and their predecessors for over 30 years and yesterday was the first time I had a problem

 

You do not have to get in contact with EE as they have at least two ways of changing your wishes.

 

It's not wrong, all it does is protect the unwary (children).

 

Yes parents should take responsibility but they do not always.

 

Slightly

 

In a major city recently I heard a mother shout at her child (approximately 4 years old) "Come here you little sh*t"

 

Now he may well have been misbehaving but what has he learnt from his mother.

[Jambo]

I disagree - it fails on many levels: most importantly by giving parents a false sense of security but also by generating lots of false positives and simply by being unaccountable state censorship which is fundamentally wrong.

[valrene9600]

I was also blocked and was impressed by the fact they rang me back twice trying to sort it out. One of the engineers asked me to download Opera during some try this and that sessions, still blocked.

 

Other than the forum it blocked my access to one of those gambling sites-just remembered it was Bet fred. Also would not allow me into National Lottery but I googled pornography and it let me do what I fancied.

 

As bottle says it has not been a problem before for me either (20 years) so a glitch for a short time is not a big problem.

All the sheet that comes through the net we need these protections for the kids.

 

Thinking of the c ANAL post on here it did allow me into just canals, but perhaps a plural anal is not as bad as the singular.

[bottle]

I disagree - it fails on many levels: most importantly by giving parents a false sense of security but also by generating lots of false positives and simply by being unaccountable state censorship which is fundamentally wrong.

 

Where does the state come into this I thought it was done by the independant bbfc and was voluntary

[MoominPapa]

 

Where does the state come into this I thought it was done by the independant bbfc and was voluntary

It has nothing to do with the BBFC, as far as I know. The ISPs are buying the lists of websites to censor from commercial providers, prominent amongst which is Huawei, the Chinese telecom equipment provider. They should know a thing or two about censoring the 'net.

 

The danger is that the law (or rather "arrangement", backed by threat of law if the ISPs don't play ball) obliges the consumer ISPs to maintain an infrastructure capable of censoring the web, allowing the government to trivially add whatever it likes to the list. As it's an "arrangement" and not a law, it doesn't even have to get parliaments approval.

 

MP.

[bottle]

So all that on my link is bunkum then.

[valrene9600]

Who decides what gets blocked?

The mobile industry has appointed the BBFC (British Board of Film Classification) to determine what content should be rated 18. This is comparable with existing standards for visual content in other media and is based on the BBFC’s Classification guidelines.

 

FROM EE site.

[Jambo]

There's two separate things here. One is mobile content, the other are the fixed line ISPs.

[Hawkmoth]

I reckon Capita must write their software.

Bob

[pearley]

I reckon Capita must write their software.

Bob

If you are a Private Eye reader it is spelt Crapita. Edited September 19, 2014 by pearley

[Zig Zag]

I remember years ago I had to ring up orange about removing the parental control cos there was loads of sites I was finding I was blocked from. It was so embarrassing when a very young sounding girl answered the phone felt like she was thinking what a perv!!

[Keeping Up]

Mine has been blocked twice now, one month after buying the SIM and one month later. The website took my £2 and refunded it but didn't take the lock off, they fixed it in store. The next time I couldn't get to a store so I had to phone them which is an expensive call if your phone isn't on EE (it's a data-only SIM) and they have a cunning trick, they ask you to hang on while they fix the problem but they never get back to you afterwards so it costs you for every minute that you are mug enough to hold for.

[David Mack]

 

In a major city recently I heard a mother shout at her child (approximately 4 years old) "Come here you little sh*t"

 

Now he may well have been misbehaving but what has he learnt from his mother.

My next door neighbour in the first flat I owned referred to the boys upstairs as "F'ing Mark" and "F'ing Ian" due to the way their mother always shouted at them.

[oarfish]

I bump into this too, while paying through the bloody nose on a business account. It seemed to only happen in some areas. You can only assume that until this recent colossal screwup the cost to their reputation of having intermittent local blocks (often of general social media content) was less than the potential cost of mumsnet offspring seeing a pair of breasts and complaining to the media.

[Stephen Sugg]

If you are a Private Eye reader it is spelt Crapita.

And the same if you work for one of their competitors (and superiors! )

[Hawkmoth]

If you are a Private Eye reader it is spelt Crapita.

[GUMPY]

I reckon Capita must write their software.

Bob

Try having Crapita as your IT infrastructure support, they have a great game, change the team leader or pass the parcel its known.

[zildjian]

Actually having it removed seems a temporary measure,

I rang to complain after the same message popped up and prevented me visiting a camping vehicle site,

 

http://demountablecampergroup.com/search.php?search_id=active_topics

 

spoke to someone there who said it "just does it from time to time"

they unchecked the box their end but it was back again a few weeks later so it seems just keep trying it and depending o n its mood it does or doesn't.....

Edited September 20, 2014 by zildjian

[carlt]

I remember years ago I had to ring up orange about removing the parental control cos there was loads of sites I was finding I was blocked from. It was so embarrassing when a very young sounding girl answered the phone felt like she was thinking what a perv!!

I too had this problem with Orange blocking Canalworld and, not having a credit card at the time, I was unable to get the block lifted over the phone.

 

I ended up having to go into the Orange shop where a lovely young lady rang up them up for me.

 

I only heard one side of the conversation but, at one point, the lass said "Well I'm 21 and if he chatted me up in a pub I'd think he was a dirty old man." which seemed to convince them that I was older than 18.

 

Ego crushed to a pulp but at least I could read the forum.

[Zig Zag]

Did you call her a "lovely young lady" to her face?

[carlt]

Did you call her a "lovely young lady" to her face?

I don't remember but I very much doubt it.