Hawkmoth Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Just having a rant. This morning as we approached Low Lane Swing Bridge it started to open. In luck I thought, but no. A small GRP craft came through and promptly started to shut the bridge. Despite my horn signal and our closeness he just continued to shut it. We were so close that I was alongside and Cath was off the boat before he reached his. I could have cheerfully crushed it! Rant over Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machpoint005 Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Relax. He was probably much more stressed than you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam the wanderer Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 If he is new to boat he could have been told off before for not closing the bridge, Or like me he is a bit deaf with the engine running Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkmoth Posted June 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 The chap was very mature, maybe new but not sure. Bob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patty-ann Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Maybe he really didn't know, not all people deliberately anti everything. Perhaps in world of his own concentrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 I thought boating was supposed to be relaxing and chilled out. Why all the rants? Perhaps he had not seen you or heard you. It happens. No harm done and certainly no need to be rude about his boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Marshall Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 If you were next to him before he got on his boat he must have seen you. I'd have been a bit narked too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 If you were next to him before he got on his boat he must have seen you. I'd have been a bit narked too. So you would have expected him to go back and open the bridge? It is perfectly plausable that the chap had not seen or heard the approaching boat. I know we have had this ourselves where we honestly had not seen the approaching boat as we closed the bridge. In that case the boat owners were happy to accept our apology as a genuine mistake rather than have a rant on the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keeping Up Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Is it one of those bridges which require a BW key to operate them, such that you cannot get your key out again without shutting the bridge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Is it one of those bridges which require a BW key to operate them, such that you cannot get your key out again without shutting the bridge? Indeed. Some people dont like swapping keys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeco Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) I once opened a bridge and seen a boat coming so held it open for them and then another boat and another boat and more boats kept coming. I was there for about 50 mins letting all these boats through. Some of them didn't even say thanks like it was my job as a bridge operator. Edited June 18, 2014 by leeco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkmoth Posted June 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 NC, I wasn't rude about the boat, I didn't call it a butter tub or yoghurt pot. The fact that Lyra could crush it isn't derogatory. I had a rant because I felt like it, better now. Never heard of swapping keys, we've been unlucky enough to be caught at bridge while several boats passed. It''s part of the game. I don't think, in fact I know he saw and heard me, he was just concerned with getting on. That's life, Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frangar Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Indeed. Some people dont like swapping keys. I too would be wary of this after helping one chap through Sawley lock because his key wouldn't fit the lock....he was a bit miffed because he had not long brought it from a chandlery (I can't remember which one)...it seems there are some dodgy copies out there...ours are a few years old and stamped BWB and we have never had a problem with them. Cheers Gareth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machpoint005 Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) Indeed. Some people dont like swapping keys. True, but if you are keeping a bridge open for another boat, you stand there with your own key in t'oil and let them through -- swapping keys doesn't enter into it. Seems to work well on the Peak Forest, but then, perhaps we have a better class of folk over here. I note the OP was on a Yorkshire canal -- nuff said. ETA - perhaps Edited June 18, 2014 by Machpoint005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilR Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 I don't recall going through that swing bridge, but is it on a busy road? The guy might have felt intimidated by impatient motorists? And/or is it a bridge needing a *captive* CaRT key to keep open? Was he single-handing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machpoint005 Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 I don't recall going through that swing bridge, but is it on a busy road? The guy might have felt intimidated by impatient motorists? And/or is it a bridge needing a *captive* CaRT key to keep open? Was he single-handing? Good points, but it can often disarm the most impatient 4x4 driver to point out politely that he/she has a choice of routes, but the boater has only one! Failing that, mutter about "right of navigation". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubblequeen Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Bob you have every right to have a rant if you feel like it after all there are loads of rants on here about anything to do with Lycra and having a lycra boat must mean you come in for too many unfair rants.I'm with you on needing to have a rant whatever it was about ifr it makes you feel better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 It is perfectly plausable that the chap had not seen or heard the approaching boat. I know we have had this ourselves where we honestly had not seen the approaching boat as we closed the bridge. I think the technical term for spotting other boats approaching is "'avin' a look". It is something we do when closing locks or bridges. However, we did once have a lock closed in our face after a boat exited it. They did see us but had been told "always close the lock after you leave". We quietly and calmly pointed out the flaw in that instruction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keble Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Bob you have every right to have a rant if you feel like it after all there are loads of rants on here about anything to do with Lycra and having a lycra boat must mean you come in for too many unfair rants.I'm with you on needing to have a rant whatever it was about ifr it makes you feel better. Yeah but, OK to rant if its raining. Not if the sun is shining! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wreckferret Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 impatient 4x4 driver Why bring gearboxes into it ?? Surely BMW drivers are the most impatient on the road?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanted Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) If you are happy to work a lock or bridge when nobody is coming the other way then surely it shouldn't matter if you meet someone right? Edited June 18, 2014 by Wanted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 True, but if you are keeping a bridge open for another boat, you stand there with your own key in t'oil and let them through -- swapping keys doesn't enter into it. Seems to work well on the Peak Forest, but then, perhaps we have a better class of folk over here. I note the OP was on a Yorkshire canal -- nuff said. ETA - perhaps No the "bridge hop" (first boat does first bridge, next boat does next bridge, then back to first boat doing next bridge) works really well up here as well. Especially on the SSYN where there are many, many bridges to contend with . I think the technical term for spotting other boats approaching is "'avin' a look". It is something we do when closing locks or bridges. However, we did once have a lock closed in our face after a boat exited it. They did see us but had been told "always close the lock after you leave". We quietly and calmly pointed out the flaw in that instruction. We did have a look but still missed the approaching boat. It happens. Although not in your perfect world it would seem NC, I wasn't rude about the boat, I didn't call it a butter tub or yoghurt pot. The fact that Lyra could crush it isn't derogatory. I had a rant because I felt like it, better now. Never heard of swapping keys, we've been unlucky enough to be caught at bridge while several boats passed. It''s part of the game. I don't think, in fact I know he saw and heard me, he was just concerned with getting on. That's life, Bob No? What is it then? Superiority instead? The guy made a mistake. Get over it. Unless of course you never make any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pykebird Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 (edited) I had an interesting time on my way to Llangollen a couple of months ago. I an across several swing bridges, and being on my own had to invent various ways of getting through, including tying up to anything and leaving the boat in gear. As there is a small current it was the only way I could stop the boat floating back in to the bridge. I was so pleased when I met people coming and most were helpful. But It did come across a bunch of around 6 people, 4 of whom were on the bridge who insisted I tie up and wait for them to put the bridge down so they could walk across. You didn't need a bw key, just a windless. Still I wasn't in a tearing rush so I just waited. Unlike the guy at 6.30 in the morning who was sooo desperate to get over the road bridge, he drove under the barrier as it was closing!! Edited June 19, 2014 by pykebird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 BMW drivers are not the most impatient, they have an advantage in they have bought the fast lane of the motorway with their cars. (That must be correct as they drive as if their cars don't work in any other lane!) oops sorry I have gone off topic but at least i am still ranting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzard Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 BMW's are rapidly being ousted from the fast lane by the horrid angry looking front of bull nosed Audi's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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