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19 hours ago, zenataomm said:

First thing I'd want to do is re-site the toilet.

After all if you're really set on it being visible you should have it on the roof where EVERYBODY can see it, and not just those on board.

The pump out loo is something the last owner has put in, to include the relevant holding tank.

Previously it had a very small loo compartment with a Porta Potty.

I can only assume it is "work in progress",and the intention was to add some doors or a compartment somehow!

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29 minutes ago, Parahandy said:

From what I have been told from various sources, the owner has put a huge amount of money into this delightful boat in really quite a short space of time.

I think the price now being asked is probably similar to what she paid, (but I'm happy to be corrected if I'm wrong).

If so she will be significantly out of pocket, despite not owning it that long at all.

It is truly immaculate, but obviously quite specialist.

29 minutes ago, dave moore said:

She now has Themis.

Ah, I did wonder!

 

Another boat that got "deconverted" only to become "converted" again!

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26 minutes ago, billybobbooth said:

Not such a reasonable price, I know it's a nice boat but a back cabin isnt that hard to live in if anything I like it as you cant clutter.

As a live aboard I found it difficult , especially with a work life and cooking in Summer on a Boatmans Stove . I salute you Billy ?

28 minutes ago, alan_fincher said:

From what I have been told from various sources, the owner has put a huge amount of money into this delightful boat in really quite a short space of time.

I think the price now being asked is probably similar to what she paid, (but I'm happy to be corrected if I'm wrong).

If so she will be significantly out of pocket, despite not owning it that long at all.

It is truly immaculate, but obviously quite specialist.

Ah, I did wonder!

 

Another boat that got "deconverted" only to become "converted" again!

It certainly is a delightful boat , a pity about the lack of Pictures

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11 minutes ago, Parahandy said:

As a live aboard I found it difficult , especially with a work life and cooking in Summer on a Boatmans Stove . I salute you Billy ?

It certainly is a delightful boat , a pity about the lack of Pictures

9 months of year, hysterical rally and boating boat. Go somewhere not too hot for winter.

Just like ours.

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2 minutes ago, matty40s said:

Cant believe theres not a good picture of the best Gardner there is....

Alan:

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1 hour ago, matty40s said:

Cant believe theres not a good picture of the best Gardner there is....

Well you can just about see bits of it!

 

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1 hour ago, Parahandy said:

As a live aboard I found it difficult , especially with a work life and cooking in Summer on a Boatmans Stove . I salute you Billy ?

It certainly is a delightful boat , a pity about the lack of Pictures

Years of having no electrics, just a good old boatman stove, primus stoves and silencer hot water for washing your hands.

 

Towy Seams quite posh compared to dane Dutton and squire (before the work was done)

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3 hours ago, matty40s said:

Cant believe theres not a good picture of the best Gardner there is....

Wasn’t he the Waterways minister a few years ago?

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More like this one:

 

 

Expensive toys. Not really narrow boat engines. We had a 6LW in the Dutchman, 94hp, 1400rpm max. Delicious.

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On 10/01/2020 at 19:35, Parahandy said:

 

It certainly is a delightful boat , a pity about the lack of Pictures

This is at the top of the Tinsley flight, Sheffield, shortly after Geoff Wheat bought her in 1968.

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25 minutes ago, Pluto said:

This is at the top of the Tinsley flight, Sheffield, shortly after Geoff Wheat bought her in 1968.

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Thanks for that , an incredible 50 years ago and as Alan said earlier , clearly there has been a lot of Money spent on bringing her up to her present condition

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2 minutes ago, magnetman said:

Who is going to cut the ram off 

RamBow perhaps, or Mickey mouse,

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It's a serious question. 

 

This boat (Tycho) would look lovely without that ram on it, a real honey of a short narrow boat but everyone would be chattering about the ram being taken off and how rude it was to do that with it being so hysterically important despite there being no thick ice any more. 

 

It's a catch 22 situation. 

 

It really would look good without it, a nice boat rather than an ice boat. 

 

ETA There is a nice Yarwoods boat behind there I believe 

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The best solution seems to be to remove the ram (perhaps it's just a few rivets) and store it in a safe location then use the boat. 

 

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23 minutes ago, magnetman said:

Who is going to cut the ram off 

Save yourself a few quid on license and mooring fees .... but be excommunicated from the historic boat gatherings !  

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18 minutes ago, magnetman said:

Who is going to cut the ram off 

 

2 minutes ago, magnetman said:

It's a serious question. 

 

This boat (Tycho) would look lovely without that ram on it, a real honey of a short narrow boat but everyone would be chattering about the ram being taken off and how rude it was to do that with it being so hysterically important despite there being no thick ice any more. 

 

It's a catch 22 situation. 

 

It really would look good without it, a nice boat rather than an ice boat. 

I have known TYCHO for about 50 years. and the reason it has always stuck in my mind is because of the ram - but I love it.

 

As has been discussed in this thread before I was keen to buy TYCHO when it was for sale in mid 2016, but we were unable to agree on a value. If TYCHO did not have its ram it would not have interested me at all as there is a choice of cut down Grand Union motors to choose from, including three other middle Northwich motors. Obviously 'the eye of the beholder' is a varied thing, but I can understand that the industrial appearance of TYCHO will not appeal to everybody :captain:

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I quite like the look of it as it is but apart from anything else it seems a bit impractical and possibly slightly dodgy in locks. 

 

To be fair looking at it there is no obvious danger but it seems to be an extra worry which would perhaps be good to avoid. 

 

I bet one would find other narrow boat steerers giving way at bridge holes fairly readily though which could be quite enjoyable. 

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42 minutes ago, magnetman said:

I quite like the look of it as it is but apart from anything else it seems a bit impractical and possibly slightly dodgy in locks. 

It is a lot less impractical than a full length unconverted boat where the owner pays maximum licence and mooring fees but has very little accommodation. I can't really see what difference the ram makes regarding practicality :captain:

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In my view it would be a crying shame to remove the ram.  It is so much part of the boat's history, and is completely unique in having survived.

All the other 3 Middle Northwich icebreaker / tugs have lost theirs, and I have not even been able to turn up very much evidence as to when each might have done so. (I have never, for example, found any picture that is known to be Sickle carrying one).

Sextans/Sextant has been progressively re-lengthened, and its front sanitised with all evidence of the ram now gone, and the boat giving very little evidence of the conversion it received.

At least Sickle and Theophilus retain very clear evidence there was a ram, and how it was crudely torched off in each case, and both retain their 40 foot length hull length.

Tycho is hardly a danger in a lock that will typically be nearly 30 feet longer than it is, and as Pete suggests it offers potentially as much accommodation as if it were its original length, (although one of its current complications is only has a "day" cabin at the back, not a full traditional back cabin, making it less practical than if it had the usual arrangements).

The difference in costs in licencing a 40 foot boat versus a 45 foot one would be minimal, compared to the cost associated with owning this kind of boat in the first place.  Either will be significantly cheaper to run than a 72 footer, and far easier to find a mooring for.

I'm not convinced it is the presence of the ram that stops Tycho from selling - some, like Pete, will be attracted to Tycho in no part because it still has one.

 

However I can't logically justify the continued ownership of the one I do have, so I'll not be buying it.  (Birmingham, on he other hand.... 😀)

Anyway,perhaps this will help people decide?.....

(Photos: Derek R)

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On 26/12/2019 at 14:25, alan_fincher said:

I think I'm too old for buttys now, though!

I like butties. 

 

It's not that I'm younger than you, it's just a convenient meal.  Cheese or chip or beef salad or ...

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