David Schweizer Posted September 22, 2009 Report Posted September 22, 2009 During a brief conversation with an angler at Wolfhampcote on Sunday, I commented that he was the first angler I had seen in four days. He informed me that there are virtually no fish in that sectuion of the G.U. because a "Carnivorous Creature was in the water which had eaten all the fish. So what is it and how did it get there?
County4x4 Posted September 23, 2009 Report Posted September 23, 2009 I wonder if it might be a visitor from the Lancaster Canal. We were chatting to a regular fisherman by the old dry dock in the middle of town, and he said we should have been there earlier as he'd caught "a monster" nearby. If I remember correctly, most monsters are carnivorous, so I wonder if it's gone on it's holidays or something? Andy
denboy Posted September 23, 2009 Report Posted September 23, 2009 Could it be a Zander? plenty of zander in there
ukrizla Posted September 23, 2009 Report Posted September 23, 2009 Or even just a bad angler making his excuses before he blanks yet another session
NB Alnwick Posted September 23, 2009 Report Posted September 23, 2009 or Mink I haven't seen Mink taking fish but it seems likely. We have witnessed efforts to control Zander in this area - the team put a high voltage charge through the water that stuns all the fish - which then float so that the unwanted specimens can be removed - usually by the bucketful!
Guest User Posted September 23, 2009 Report Posted September 23, 2009 Love the idea of a carnivorous creature stalking the depths "Lake Placid" style ..... mutant croc ? .. crazed piranahs ? Most fish are carnivorous when you think about it. the most common top of the UK freshwater food chain though are perch and pike but they're nothing new; introduction of zander might oust these top fish predators, but for the prey its just replacing one big-nasty-sharp-toothed fish with another. There are carnivorous birds on/in the water ... cormorants, herons, kingfishers, grebes. Mammals ? (... mink possibly, not otters yet AFIK) ? Perhaps more tellingly, there's also multilingual signs in places on the southern GU now asking that people do not remove fish from the water as people less familiar with UK coarse angling have been taking them for food.
carlt Posted September 23, 2009 Report Posted September 23, 2009 I haven't seen Mink taking fish but it seems likely. We have witnessed efforts to control Zander in this area - the team put a high voltage charge through the water that stuns all the fish - which then float so that the unwanted specimens can be removed - usually by the bucketful! ...and every year they take out the same sort of numbers, rather proving the pointlessness of the exercise. Zander are here to stay so it might be best to let them settle down into a normal population, rather than just weed out the weak ones, which are more vulnerable to a gentle stunning.
Greybeard Posted September 23, 2009 Report Posted September 23, 2009 During a brief conversation with an angler at Wolfhampcote on Sunday, I commented that he was the first angler I had seen in four days. He informed me that there are virtually no fish in that sectuion of the G.U. because a "Carnivorous Creature was in the water which had eaten all the fish. So what is it and how did it get there? Crayfish?
madcat Posted September 24, 2009 Report Posted September 24, 2009 Zander is one fish we could encourage people to eat.
maritime22 Posted March 7, 2010 Report Posted March 7, 2010 Zander is very popular here in Germany, it tastes delicious.
soldthehouse Posted March 7, 2010 Report Posted March 7, 2010 (edited) IT WAS ME Edited March 7, 2010 by soldthehouse
Grace and Favour Posted March 8, 2010 Report Posted March 8, 2010 (edited) What - with an overtbite like that? IT WAS ME Edited March 8, 2010 by Grace & Favour
Nightwatch Posted March 8, 2010 Report Posted March 8, 2010 Dim,thick, stupid, call me what you will. What is a zander??? Martyn
carlt Posted March 8, 2010 Report Posted March 8, 2010 (edited) Dim,thick, stupid, call me what you will. What is a zander??? Martyn Let me Google that for you Edited March 8, 2010 by carlt
Guest wanted Posted March 8, 2010 Report Posted March 8, 2010 Let me Google that for you My new favorite web site!
Chagall Posted March 8, 2010 Report Posted March 8, 2010 My new favorite web site! and if you dont want to be quite so sarcastic then add &n=1 for a nicer message although Im experimenting with something worse for my least favourite people .....
carlt Posted March 8, 2010 Report Posted March 8, 2010 and if you dont want to be quite so sarcastic then add &n=1 for a nicer message But that's exactly what they'll be expecting...
ditchcrawler Posted March 8, 2010 Report Posted March 8, 2010 Let me Google that for you Are, its insurance
soldthehouse Posted March 8, 2010 Report Posted March 8, 2010 But that's exactly what they'll be expecting... I dont remember posing for that.
Machpoint005 Posted March 8, 2010 Report Posted March 8, 2010 I may be missing the point here, but if zander are taking over from the current populations/species, what's the problem? If they eat all the perch/carp/tench, then those who wish to fish can fish for zander instead. Presumably the populations are self-regulating: if there isn't enough food for the zander, then the zander will die out, and the other species will eventually come back. What I really don't understand is why species that have moved into the canal network some time in the last 200 years have any more right to be there than another species, whose only fault was to arrive later. The canals are man-made, after all: nature has only taken over because it can!
Chagall Posted March 8, 2010 Report Posted March 8, 2010 (edited) I may be missing the point here, but if zander are taking over from the current populations/species, what's the problem? If they eat all the perch/carp/tench, then those who wish to fish can fish for zander instead. Presumably the populations are self-regulating: if there isn't enough food for the zander, then the zander will die out, and the other species will eventually come back. What I really don't understand is why species that have moved into the canal network some time in the last 200 years have any more right to be there than another species, whose only fault was to arrive later. The canals are man-made, after all: nature has only taken over because it can! I think the worry is that these more aggressive species are wiping out the gentler ones, (happens in humans too!) we have nearly lost the red squirrel to the greys and although I cant see the pretty fish, I do miss seeing the flash of the red squirrel in our forests... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7559266.stm lists the 12 bully boys and girls in the wild... edited to add 'girls' to the bully list! Edited March 8, 2010 by Chagall
journeyperson Posted March 8, 2010 Report Posted March 8, 2010 I think the worry is that these more aggressive species are wiping out the gentler ones, (happens in humans too!) we have nearly lost the red squirrel to the greys and although I cant see the pretty fish, I do miss seeing the flash of the red squirrel in our forests... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7559266.stm lists the 12 bully boys and girls in the wild... edited to add 'girls' to the bully list! They're behaving like animals!!
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