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[Ronaldo47]

Yes, interesting. There is no commentary so you can mute the sound if you don't want to hear the music.

[Heartland]

At Spon Lane there were a number of different works and colliery basins, quite a busy area once and the glassworks dominated this area. The Stour Valley Railway was built by the contractor Joseph Pickering and involved making a tall brick wall to separate the track from the New Main Line of the BCN. Here is a view from a bridge that crossed the New Main Line at the Glassworks 

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

I don’t think we’ve had this image before?

why would one have to cross the Mersey to see it ?

[Tim Lewis]

41 minutes ago, beerbeerbeerbeerbeer said:

I don’t think we’ve had this image before?

why would one have to cross the Mersey to see it ?

 

Its Dudley

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

Yea, ‘course it is 

lovely watercolour,

who painted it and where can you see it?

Ain’t it lovely to know Turner took time to visit Tipton. 
 

[Rob-M]

40 minutes ago, beerbeerbeerbeerbeer said:

Ain’t it lovely to know Turner took time to visit Tipton

I guess Turner painted it and it must be hanging in Liverpool given your earlier reference to the Mersey.

[matty40s]

2 hours ago, beerbeerbeerbeerbeer said:

I don’t think we’ve had this image before?

why would one have to cross the Mersey to see it ?

They had crap cameras in those days...very low res....

[Heartland]

It is a J.M W Turner image with a view at Tipton Green at the BCN/ Dudley Canal Junction looking to  the Pickfords warehouse and the Bissell Wharf on the right. Dudley Castle on the hill. Edward Paget Tomlinson did make his own interpretation of the Tipton Green Carriers Depot but the warehouse height was somewhat greater than what it was. Midland Canals lacked the large warehouses of the North, because the type of traffic was different.

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

16 hours ago, Rob-M said:

I guess Turner painted it and it must be hanging in Liverpool given your earlier reference to the Mersey.

The original watercolour is hanging in the Lady Lever Art Gallery on the Wirral. So yes, you’d have to cross the Mersey to see this view.

 

here’s an engraver’s interpretation of Turner’s water colour, part of the Tate’s collection, how accurate any of this is 🤷‍♀️

for Turner it was more about capturing the idea, 

would you see churches from here? I don’t think so, but it adds to the theme.

 

[Pluto]

He painted a couple of L&LC views as well, of which this is one, but where?

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

Well, I know he liked to paint ruins, which was the fashion at the time, so I reckon that’s Kirkstall Abbey in the back ground. 

 

eta: and after looking at a map, is that the Leeds Bradford Road?

Edited March 11 by beerbeerbeerbeerbeer

[Pluto]

Yes, with what became a brewery being built on the left, and the new turnpike to Bradford crossing the canal.

[matty40s]

6 hours ago, beerbeerbeerbeerbeer said:

 

would you see churches from here? I don’t think so, but it adds to the theme.

 

Looks like Dudley Parish Church, in the right place too...

 

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

Yeah, I’d looked on map and saw there were a couple of churches ,

but wondered if he’d shifted them and perhaps made more than could be seen,

I’d say you’re right and there are 2 distinctive churches to fit the bill but I think they’d be just hidden from sight.

 

 

 

[Heartland]

The Tithe Map of Tipton shows the area painted at Tipton Green. On the right was the New Cut that went to the limekilns and there seems to be a stop there indicating that the New Cut had an independent water supply.

 

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

11 hours ago, Heartland said:

The Tithe Map of Tipton shows the area painted at Tipton Green. On the right was the New Cut that went to the limekilns and there seems to be a stop there indicating that the New Cut had an independent water supply.

 

am I correct thinking Turner would have stood here looking towards the castle?

 

 

 

Edited March 12 by beerbeerbeerbeerbeer

[Mike Todd]

On 01/07/2022 at 11:12, IanD said:

Shelton Bar steelworks?

 

I remember going through the middle of it by boat and feeling the heat from the furnaces and the rolling mill, seeing the hot metal and watching the sparks fly -- quite something...

I too have that memory - I was really disappointed when I went through after the works had been demolished!

On 10/03/2024 at 21:53, matty40s said:

They had crap cameras in those days...very low res....

and only black and white . . . 

[Heartland]

I am not sure where the reference of Shelton Bar Steelworks is directed.

 

However for the present here is a map query which shows locks that were once a staircase, but not then as this is a part of a tithe map.

 

 

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

6 hours ago, Heartland said:

I am not sure where the reference of Shelton Bar Steelworks is directed.

 

However for the present here is a map query which shows locks that were once a staircase, but not then as this is a part of a tithe map.

 

 

We’re at Bratch Locks,

originally a staircase of three before being altered in to the three separate locks we now see with side ponds,

the distinctive ‘tower’ we see is ‘139’ and recorded as an office,

 

Edited March 19 by beerbeerbeerbeerbeer

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

a little more information with this map drawn in 1841

 

[Heartland]

Well that was good Glen

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

I was thinking Gaily to start with wondering if the Lock at Gailey, which is deep, was once a staircase,

 

At Bratch, was it a case of building new locks beside the staircase?

 

[Heartland]

The location seems to be the same, but there was a plan for single locks before the work was done.

[Stroudwater1]

Interesting to see the pumping station not being present on the map at Bratch. 
 

An easy one, though not many will have navigated here. Well worth a visit on foot for those who haven’t been.

 

 

 

Edited March 24 by Stroudwater1

[davidwheeler]

What brilliant photos. And a ship canal as well. Wherever it is I would have liked to have been there. And to have taken such photos.