JamesFrance Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 I see Jonathan Wilson Boat Builders Ltd is being liquidated, was that the main trading company of Tyler Wilson or just a redundant co. with the business continuing in a different Company? https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/04198987 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 (edited) I'd suspect the latter, as they do trade under other names (aren't Mike Christian and Finesse two of their brands?) but I don't actually know. Edited December 26, 2020 by Athy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob-M Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 Perhaps they are rationalising the companies as Tim Tyler boat builders and Mike Christianson also have a status of liquidation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen-in-Wellies Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 Each separate company needs accounts audited and filed, costing money, so rationalising the number would make sense if they serve no purpose any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob-M Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 It looks a bit of that the three companies that Jonathan, Tim and Mike are registered directors of all filed for liquidation on Dec 15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 26 minutes ago, Rob-M said: It looks a bit of that the three companies that Jonathan, Tim and Mike are registered directors of all filed for liquidation on Dec 15. Is Mike still alive? He hasn't been involved with Tyler or |Wilson for many years, according to info on the internet. Are/ were Mike Christian and Mike Heywood the same person? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterboat Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 Johnathon and his wife Sarah split up ages ago, his son now owns the Sheffield part of the company now, Finesse is his Son in Law Rickys business. Johnathon is opening a new business in Thorne. I think that should explain what is happening and why maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 They've gone bust- they have debts which significantly exceed their assets.The numbers are on the Companies House website for each company under the 'Filing History' tab, then look for 'Statement of Affairs'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterboat Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, David Mack said: They've gone bust- they have debts which significantly exceed their assets.The numbers are on the Companies House website for each company under the 'Filing History' tab, then look for 'Statement of Affairs'. Lets wait and see shall we, I was there Thursday and mostly every week. The place seems very busy for a place that has gone bust, with base plates still being laid down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 12 minutes ago, peterboat said: Lets wait and see shall we, I was there Thursday and mostly every week. The place seems very busy for a place that has gone bust, with base plates still being laid down Phoenix ? 25 minutes ago, peterboat said: Johnathon is opening a new business in Thorne. I think that should explain what is happening and why maybe? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 According to the Companies House website neither Jonathon Wilson nor Tim Tyler is a director of any new company. Although they could be involved in a new operation in a non-director capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 11 minutes ago, David Mack said: According to the Companies House website neither Jonathon Wilson nor Tim Tyler is a director of any new company. Although they could be involved in a new operation in a non-director capacity. Without looking - does companies house show 'liquidation' or 'winding up' ? IF the companies have gone into liquidation then they will be barred from being Directors of any company Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 Both companies are in Creditors voluntary liquidation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PD1964 Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 (edited) If I had a shell being built by Jonathan at the minute I wouldn’t be worrying. Also I haven’t seen Bickerstaff Boats dragging their shells away that they have commissioned in-build. I think Jonathan will be building shells for many years to come. Edited December 26, 2020 by PD1964 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy D'arth Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 5 hours ago, Athy said: Is Mike still alive? He hasn't been involved with Tyler or |Wilson for many years, according to info on the internet. Are/ were Mike Christian and Mike Heywood the same person? I understand that Mike Heywood died several years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 9 hours ago, Tracy D'arth said: I understand that Mike Heywood died several years ago. I heard that too, also that he was a relative of Tyler and Wilson (who are apparently uncle and nephew). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frangar Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Athy said: I heard that too, also that he was a relative of Tyler and Wilson (who are apparently uncle and nephew). I met Mike Heywood back in 1994 at an IWA national when I had only had the boat a couple of years. He was walking along the moorings and stopped by my boat...I hadn’t a clue it was him that built it!! We had a most enjoyable chat and he told me much of its “history”. Apparently Jonathan Wilson was an apprentice on my shell back in 1982/3...mine was also possibly the first Heywood with flared bow guards...was one of the great random meetings and chats that mean I still love living on the cut 28 years later....still with the same boat too!! I think Johnathan was a nephew...but I’m not great on families in general. I also think that they were all followers of Jehovah’s Witnesses at some point..hence a being a large extended “family” of sorts but that might just be cut rumour. Edited December 27, 2020 by frangar 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 33 minutes ago, frangar said: I met Mike Heywood back in 1994 at an IWA national when I had only had the boat a couple of years. He was walking along the moorings and stopped by my boat...I hadn’t a clue it was him that built it!! We had a most enjoyable chat and he told me much of its “history”. Apparently Jonathan Wilson was an apprentice on my shell back in 1982/3...mine was also possibly the first Heywood with flared bow guards...was one of the great random meetings and chats that mean I still love living on the cut 28 years later....still with the same boat too!! I think Johnathan was a nephew...but I’m not great on families in general. I also think that they were all followers of Jehovah’s Witnesses at some point..hence a being a large extended “family” of sorts but that might just be cut rumour. An excellent anecdote. Were Mike Heywood and Mike Christian the same person, do you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frangar Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Athy said: An excellent anecdote. Were Mike Heywood and Mike Christian the same person, do you know? I think they might well have been. I know Mike Heywood as a company stopped trading and I think “Mike Christian” rose from the ashes. There’s also Evans & Son which I believe employed Mike Heywood in some form. Just out of interest Mike Heywood worked for David Piper before he went and set up on his own...the boat building world is a fairly small one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PD1964 Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Athy said: I heard that too, also that he was a relative of Tyler and Wilson (who are apparently uncle and nephew). I believe Tim and Jonathan were related through marriage and brother in laws. Mike Christian Jonathan’s brother and Mike Haywood their uncle. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frangar Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, PD1964 said: I believe Tim and Jonathan were related through marriage and brother in laws. Mike Christian Jonathan’s brother and Mike Haywood their uncle. Ahhh fair enough. I knew it was all family!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, frangar said: Ahhh fair enough. I knew it was all family!! Were they 'Fenland folk' ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PD1964 Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 57 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said: Were they 'Fenland folk' ? I believe they are all originally from the Stoke/Stafford area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frangar Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 Just now, PD1964 said: I believe they are all originally from the Stoke/Stafford area. I think so too. Think my boat was built at hoo mill lock on the T & M...I know the fit out was done in Stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, PD1964 said: I believe they are all originally from the Stoke/Stafford area. That's that idea out then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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