jeannette smith harrison Posted November 18, 2018 Report Share Posted November 18, 2018 i have this 1986 plaque on a mount it is solid brass so Quite heavy size of acc plaque is 8.5" x 7" I remember the rally is was outside Brentford in what is locally known as Boston park just near Clitherows lock. i have never been able to find any records of a Waterways Transport Centre in Brentford so would be great if anyone has an answer. also open to suggestions on who this might have been presented to i dont think it was a boat because of its size & weight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Lewis Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 Boston Manor park was the location of the 1986 IWA National Waterways Festival, this is not the IWA plaque though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 (edited) I sold my old ex working boat at the 1986 Brentford rally Edited November 19, 2018 by Tonka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Tim Lewis said: Boston Manor park was the location of the 1986 IWA National Waterways Festival, this is not the IWA plaque though Could it of been a best boat plaque, furthest journey plaque etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeannette smith harrison Posted November 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 Tonka that is a thought i have pondered with over the the years. as Tim says it is not an IWA plaque. Brentford Waterways transport centre iv have found no records of their existance. The plaque has very fine raised etched detail more like something used in a printing press . even the boat at the bottom G.U.C.C.CO with no 146 as the building top left & others have v fine words etched out if looked at with an eye glass. The plaque on its own is just under 1KG .the back as under the NTF of Brentford is stamped 04. I have had this for years but for the life of me cant remember where or how i came by it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelMoore Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 (edited) The engraving looks as though it is a view over the westernmost gauging lock towards what was the ‘island’ Depot of BW, with its overhanging warehouses (long since vanished under modern flats). This is a present day view, taken from roughly the same location (the footbridge over the locks) – The whole of the island and warehouses on Commerce Road opposite, formed BW’s Brentford transhipment depot, and many photos are available online (and even old B&W movies) showing it in operation. The plaque might simply have been an ‘attendance’ souvenir for the IWA rally, which around 450 boats attended, or an opportunistic plaque by BW, which was still operating the depot then. If this attachment works, you can see various loading operations going on in this clip, including boats being gauged at the gauging lock & Toll House – Brentford's_Canal_Warehouses.wmv Edited November 19, 2018 by NigelMoore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 Just realised I have a Brentford 1986 rally plaque screwed up in the engine room of present boat. If I knew how to add photo from phone I would add it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek R. Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 (edited) Can't add anything, but particularly like the water leaking past the quoin of the gates, and the person holding the line from the mast about to take a turn to slow the boat. - Might be in for a surprise when it jumps off the luby!! 146 - HAMPSTEAD? Makes you wonder if it wasn't sculpted, moulded and cast from a photograph. Quote: "I have a Brentford 1986 rally plaque screwed up in the engine room of present boat. " Does it look anything like Jeannettes? Edited November 19, 2018 by Derek R. added text Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Lewis Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 4 hours ago, Tonka said: I sold my old ex working boat at the 1986 Brentford rally The Brentford Rally was the first rally appearance of Fulbourne under it's current ownership, we featured on the front cover of Waterways World having a meeting on the back deck to work out what to do with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furnessvale Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 14 hours ago, jeannette smith harrison said: i have this 1986 plaque on a mount it is solid brass so Quite heavy size of acc plaque is 8.5" x 7" I remember the rally is was outside Brentford in what is locally known as Boston park just near Clitherows lock. i have never been able to find any records of a Waterways Transport Centre in Brentford so would be great if anyone has an answer. also open to suggestions on who this might have been presented to i dont think it was a boat because of its size & weight Just a thought. Could that just be a claim (by someone making the plaque) that Brentford is the centre of the waterways network (as opposed to the oft claimed Birmingham) rather than a physical building or museum etc? George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Derek R. said: Can't add anything, but particularly like the water leaking past the quoin of the gates, and the person holding the line from the mast about to take a turn to slow the boat. - Might be in for a surprise when it jumps off the luby!! 146 - HAMPSTEAD? Makes you wonder if it wasn't sculpted, moulded and cast from a photograph. Quote: "I have a Brentford 1986 rally plaque screwed up in the engine room of present boat. " Does it look anything like Jeannettes? No the attendance plaque is round and a totally different view. As I said I wish I knew how to paste photos on an android phone 1 hour ago, Tim Lewis said: The Brentford Rally was the first rally appearance of Fulbourne under it's current ownership, we featured on the front cover of Waterways World having a meeting on the back deck to work out what to do with it! No it wasn't Fulbourne that I sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelMoore Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 Not particularly clear, but this page from a waterways history book shows the pool above the Gauging Locks, with blurb identifying it as Brentford's waterways transhipment depot - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeannette smith harrison Posted November 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2018 Many thanks for your suggestions & help I don not know why i did not think of the transhipment area as it is a large part of my younger years with a lot of family members still working ,loading there, Tommy Humphries (lime Juice) & several of the last willow wren crews where family connected . I have had a memory spark (thank you Nigel you picture reminded me ) & i now think it was given to me by my nan's half brother Tommy Osborne when he worked for waterways & lived in one of the cottages on the Hanwell thicket . Tommy Osborn & Tommy Humphries won the pilling competition in 1959 @ Hanwell but i dont think it has anything to do with that . With the boatman's love for anything brass & their reputation for trading ,swapping & sometimes gaining in other ways i do not think i will ever know the full true history of the plaque it is numbered no 4 but to date i have never seen or heard of another. to me it has to do with something or part of my family history so it will stay with all other family memrobelia 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeannette smith harrison Posted November 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2018 20 hours ago, furnessvale said: Just a thought. Could that just be a claim (by someone making the plaque) that Brentford is the centre of the waterways network (as opposed to the oft claimed Birmingham) rather than a physical building or museum etc? George That is another possability George .i have also thought that it may have been a bid to help with the then declining area using the rally as a way to get support as even then they where trying to reclaim a lot of the old empty buildings for re development Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek R. Posted November 20, 2018 Report Share Posted November 20, 2018 19 hours ago, Tonka said: No the attendance plaque is round and a totally different view. As I said I wish I knew how to paste photos on an android phone Ok. I know nothing about Android phones or smart phones, but if you can access th einternet from yours (which obviously you can), maybe it's possible to access a photo hosting website as well? There's a guide here: I use TinyPic myself, but on a desktop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeannette smith harrison Posted November 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2018 Photo taken @ Rose's lime juice as most family then could not read or write most of my photos have nothing wrote on the back . I was told this is at the Brentford end taken whilst seeing Tommy Humphries whilst he was loading . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek R. Posted November 20, 2018 Report Share Posted November 20, 2018 Definitely Brent Meadow Wharf. The tower of the old Town Hall can be seen beyond. It's a restaurant now (unless they've gone bust since the aerial photo was taken!!) The bridge (I suspect) takes a road over the old log lagoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark99 Posted November 20, 2018 Report Share Posted November 20, 2018 (edited) Lime juice. Makes my mouth water just reading it. Rally medals. https://picclick.co.uk/2-Vintage-Brass-Waterways-Rally-Coasters-Brentford-1986-222433389353.html#&gid=1&pid=1 Edited November 20, 2018 by mark99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted November 20, 2018 Report Share Posted November 20, 2018 On 19/11/2018 at 14:09, Tonka said: As I said I wish I knew how to paste photos on an android phone On my phone I click on "Click to choose files" then navigate via My Files - Internal Storage - DCIM - Camera then select the relevant image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted November 20, 2018 Report Share Posted November 20, 2018 19 minutes ago, David Mack said: On my phone I click on "Click to choose files" then navigate via My Files - Internal Storage - DCIM - Camera then select the relevant image. Cheerz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeannette smith harrison Posted November 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 13 hours ago, Tonka said: Cheerz Thank you Tonka that deserves a greenie just for the effort & determination to post this picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeannette smith harrison Posted November 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 15 hours ago, mark99 said: Lime juice. Makes my mouth water just reading it. Rally medals. https://picclick.co.uk/2-Vintage-Brass-Waterways-Rally-Coasters-Brentford-1986-222433389353.html#&gid=1&pid=1 The Hawksbury one is a lot in design like mine except mine is a lot bigger = 21cm X17cm another option is could mine have been a kettle or t/pot trivia its def big enough to have been Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X Alan W Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 Jeannette, I attended the rally by road & during the wander around stopped to " chinwag "with Ike" (Argent ) & him diving down in the cabin of "Amy"& emerging with a big plaque I couldn't say for sure if it was the same as yours as it was while back but remember it was big & ornate IIRC it was a commemorative one for boaters involved in in some contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeannette smith harrison Posted November 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 Alan once again our paths must have crossed years ago. Im rubbish at technical stuff but just managed to find this back in aug 21st 2017 i made a posting on here= old photos in a box . Ike was on the photo the box came from a family member who was also connected to Ike & my Nanny . also connected to my Grandads side via the Boswell, Nixon & Monks . My Nanny always refered to him as Iky Moulds because his mother Florrie 2nd husband was a boatman called Billy Moulds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X Alan W Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 (edited) On 21/11/2018 at 11:09, jeannette smith harrison said: Alan once again our paths must have crossed years ago. Im rubbish at technical stuff but just managed to find this back in aug 21st 2017 i made a posting on here= old photos in a box . Ike was on the photo the box came from a family member who was also connected to Ike & my Nanny . also connected to my Grandads side via the Boswell, Nixon & Monks . My Nanny always refered to him as Iky Moulds because his mother Florrie 2nd husband was a boatman called Billy Moulds Yes I got confused when I first started carrying as he "Ike " was referred to by both names took me a bit to twig they were talking about the same person Edited November 22, 2018 by X Alan W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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