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3 minutes ago, The Grumpy Triker said:

Do lots of people on here have these?...it looks like a really nice piece of kit but not sure a muppet like me would benefit from it...or maybe it is the muppets that need it.

does it sit at the top of the flu inside....not sure I'd understand how to optimise my fuel consumption based on a readout of temperature?...but guess that is in the marketing pack.

all great info .....cheers for that....I need all I can get :D

I have a novel idea. If I think my boat is getting cooler  I put more fuel on.

Just now, The Grumpy Triker said:

Very true....but I given life's possibilities It is the CO I should worry about :huh: ...the silent killer.....having said that, narrowly a better way to go than oxygen starvation.

Correct.

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10 minutes ago, mrsmelly said:

Yes quite although the effects are precisely the same. co2 is non poisonous but carbon monoxide is poisonous. Flood your boat with either and the result will be precisely the same only due to differing methods, dead is still dead.

 

The final effect might be the same but the route to death is totally different. 

CO cannot be detected in any way by the victim, other than them connecting their headache with possible CO poisoning.

C02 on the other hand will have you hyperventilating and running for clean air long before you die. Very few people if any die accidentally from CO2 poisoning.

 

 

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35 minutes ago, rusty69 said:

A true log burner doesnt require a grate, and would preferably have a longer firebox. 

I burn wood and coal on a morso squirrel (not at the same time). The coal tends to like air fed from below, whilst the wood burns better with air from above.

Some people suggest wpod and coal should not be burnt together 

This ^^, wood needs a deep bed of ash and air from the top, coal a clean fire bed and air from the bottom.

A multifuel stove is a comprise and will burn wood fine but just not as well as a dedicated wood burner.

Mixing wood and coal will work and many people are happy to do it but its not the most efficient way to burn and control either fuel

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'Back in the Room' as they say ....or more simply, back on topic....I've had several messages and emails from the new Broker explaining bits I may or may not need to do and continuous communications on any questions....

......compared to my previous experience.....Wow!!.....11 days to Survey :D

DON'T BE BACKED INTO A CORNER AND BE TOLD WHAT TO DO!!

it may yet cost me more money but I'm damned if I am going to be bullied into abiding by ridiculous rules written by inane people...

.....Get Up, Stand Up, Stand Up for Your Rights! B).....and Don't Worry...About a Ting

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2 minutes ago, rusty69 said:

Does it need to be alight? :)

 

Ah now that reminds me of the <insert racist cliché of your choice> young boy whose mother told him to put on a clean pair of socks every day.

At the end of the week he couldn't get his shoes on...

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29 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said:

While we're on the subject of brokers well worth avoiding, whatever happened to Stephen Harrall?

I can't believe he isn't still out there somewhere, flogging boats and stitching people up just like before.

Funnily enough my boat came from Harralls and all went fine, broker was polite, helpful and the sale was painless, well apart from handing the cash over, that hurt :)

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:offtopic:

I just reviewed marine magnets and some appear to be able to attract the new QE Aircraft Carrier let alone a lost windlass....anyone got any recommendations for make and strength for the more standard windlasses on sale...not of the copper or bronze variety :D

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7 minutes ago, The Grumpy Triker said:

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I just reviewed marine magnets and some appear to be able to attract the new QE Aircraft Carrier let alone a lost windlass....anyone got any recommendations for make and strength for the more standard windlasses on sale...not of the copper or bronze variety :D

This use to be the one to have, things may have changed :-

 

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http://www.marinesuperstore.com/nautical-gifts/gadgets/sea-searcher-magnet?utm_source=google_shopping&utm_medium=pcn&utm_term=03170&utm_campaign=MSS&gclid=CJDvsffI49QCFaW87QoddhYObQ

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2 minutes ago, rusty69 said:

Cheers Rusty.....better attach a decent bit of twine to it ;) Looks the job.

one of them was looking at picking up 70KGs :o ...maybe a tad over-spec for me :D

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4 minutes ago, The Grumpy Triker said:

 

one of them was looking at picking up 70KGs :o ...maybe a tad over-spec for me :D

Be careful, you may fish out boaty mcboatface. 

 

Those magnets seem to have gone up a lot. Think i paid a tenner for our one. 

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Sawley brokers are excellent, I bought a cheap boat, I also knew and was told it clearly it came with no warranty and with no survey the issues I have had are in no way there fault, put me in touch with there own engineer (importantly the engineer who serviced the boat over the years) In the engineers own words he did regular services of the boat but the old owner put a hard limit on money spent on the boat so the servicing was some times limited, Sawley is also letting me stay at there marina at no cost until all work is done and boat is ready to go.

If Sawley was not outside the comfort travel distance I would definitely keep our boat there.

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....have to say I also visited a couple of yards up and around Doncaster (apologies but cannot remember names), and again, REALLY really pleasant, answered any questions and then left me to it on the boat after opening up for me...all but one broker has either given the keys or opened up and chatted then left me to it, the other felt like a bit of an escort with a time limit. Each to their own.

10 days til survey!....start getting your fenders upgraded! :D :cheers:

 

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On 29 June 2017 at 17:33, tree monkey said:

Funnily enough my boat came from Harralls and all went fine, broker was polite, helpful and the sale was painless, well apart from handing the cash over, that hurt :)

Yep our boat was via  harrals. Have to say it was an easy transaction. With  hindsight I was a bit naive but 'got away ' with it, a few weeks later he went bang..... Not sure I actually spoke to or dealt with mr harral himself but his minions were great.

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6 hours ago, jonathanA said:

Yep our boat was via  harrals. Have to say it was an easy transaction. With  hindsight I was a bit naive but 'got away ' with it, a few weeks later he went bang..... Not sure I actually spoke to or dealt with mr harral himself but his minions were great.

Likewise, I bought a boat from them about six years ago, an easy (and financially flexible) transaction. My only adverse criticism is that they didn't empty the brimming loo cassette before I took the boat over, but that's the only crap I got from them.

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11 hours ago, Athy said:

Likewise, I bought a boat from them about six years ago, an easy (and financially flexible) transaction. My only adverse criticism is that they didn't empty the brimming loo cassette before I took the boat over, but that's the only crap I got from them.

Ha, I had exactly that issue as well, 2 years ago this August.

It was full to the brim and had been quietly fermenting for many months as the owner had stopped using the boat long before I bought it. I had to walk away twice while emptying itbas I really thought I was going to be sick.

Funnily enough I never blamed the broker (perhaps I should, it was those Great ones from Haywood) but the owner who, when showing me round the boat, told me he could not remember how to takevthe cassette out. I realised later he was probably too embarrased for leaving it in that state.

 

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On 28/06/2017 at 10:33, frahkn said:

I purchased my boat through Rugby boats and I am content with how I was treated during the experience.

However there was no doubt at any time that Dominic was working on the seller's behalf. He was not and did not pretend to be, an impartial 'middle man' in the sale. Frankly I had expected this and found it refreshing that there was no attempt at pretence to the contrary.

 

On 28/06/2017 at 10:35, mrsmelly said:

Yes Dominic sold two boats for me and was first class both times. Company is now owned by James who it seems is keeping up the good work.

My experience with Rugby Boats was the complete opposite. After an initial flourish, Dominic showed very little interest in selling our boat, and his sidekick was decidedly rude about it.  Communication was almost non existent and they never replied to any emails., so after having left it with him for seven months we took ity away, and placed it with Braunston Marina, who were thoroughly professional throught the whole process. They kept us regularly informed about any interest, and the boat sold sold for something very close to the asking price within a couple of weeks.

Of course Dominic may have been loosing interest in the business, as he sold it a few weeks after we left him. I have no experience of the subsequent owner, and would not wish that my views of his predecessor are in any way indicative of the current situation.

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13 hours ago, David Schweizer said:

 

My experience with Rugby Boats was the complete opposite. After an initial flourish, Dominic showed very little interest in selling our boat, and his sidekick was decidedly rude about it.  Communication was almost non existent and they never replied to any emails., so after having left it with him for seven months we took ity away, and placed it with Braunston Marina, who were thoroughly professional throught the whole process. They kept us regularly informed about any interest, and the boat sold sold for something very close to the asking price within a couple of weeks.

Of course Dominic may have been loosing interest in the business, as he sold it a few weeks after we left him. I have no experience of the subsequent owner, and would not wish that my views of his predecessor are in any way indicative of the current situation.

That is interesting.

I have mentioned previously that my boat has some 'eccentric' features (as well as many great ones) which might put a future buyer off. At the back of my mind I have always thought that I would use Rugby when I came to sell it as they had managed to convince me that they were all minor details (which some of them are not).

Frank

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Seven sleeps to Survey Day! :o

Have to say that when I visited Braunston I was made to feel totally comfortable with their knowledge but most importantly the relaxed nature but without hindering any professionalism - they seemed to suss you out quickly and were ready with any advice where requested. A good crew.

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