nickfox Posted December 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 Athy, do you have a picture of your boat, the Trojan? n Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 If I may make so bold, Laurie B's is a later boat / or built to a better specification; looks more like a 'conventional' NB, and I assume it's not a V-hull? The Springer "Tug" was introduced about 1987 I think. Laurie will know more about its nether regions than I do. Athy, do you have a picture of your boat, the Trojan? n A small picture of her appears on my avatar. I'm afraid that I am unsure how to post photos on the thread (though someone did kindly attempt to show me); however, I can try to e-mail a bigger one to you. She is not for sale I'm afraid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Payne Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 Nick, you raise a VERY good question, and one which many of us are perhaps too close to have noticed. You, looking on with fresh eyes, have spotted something which a lot of us take for granted. It is indeed a very common colour scheme. Blue instead of green is probably almost as common. Whether it was originally an imitation of a former working boat livery I don't know. One of the major hire fleets sports something similar, maybe they set the trend years ago. It can look smart (as Laurie's boat does) but I would not want a craft with such a colour scheme. We could never find it in the car park.* Hence, our 'Trojan' is purple. * humour anglais! I like the colour of trojan when I passed it, a little different. IIRC the t shirt you had on was not quite as nice (insert winking smiley) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickfox Posted December 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 (edited) thanks athy. Edited December 9, 2016 by nickfox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bargemast Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 The Springer "Tug" was introduced about 1987 I think. Laurie will know more about its nether regions than I do. A small picture of her appears on my avatar. I'm afraid that I am unsure how to post photos on the thread (though someone did kindly attempt to show me); however, I can try to e-mail a bigger one to you. She is not for sale I'm afraid! Here's a photo of Trojan from Mel Davis website, before she was painted Peter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 (edited) Naked and unashamed! Thank you, Peter. That takes me back just over 10 years, would have been about May 2006 (she was launched in the August). Edited December 9, 2016 by Athy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 I like the colour of trojan when I passed it, a little different. IIRC the t shirt you had on was not quite as nice (insert winking smiley) Where was that, Dave, when we were moored in the lower part of the Atherstone flight in September? I cannot recall which T-shirt I had on. I do have two or three Trojan-related ones which I often wear while on the boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Payne Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 Yes on the atherstone flight, think it was very pink with writing on the front? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 Yes on the atherstone flight, think it was very pink with writing on the front? PINK??? I do not own any pink clothes. I was talking to another boater, whose very gorgeous and shiny Hudson was parked just in front of us - perhaps he was wearing pink (it wasn't a forum member by the way). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Payne Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 Ha ha yes the shiny boat, I followed him up the locks and had a chat to him whilst working the locks, that was a very, very, very shiny boat and top of the shine it had extra shine! It had been a long week doing the BCN so I guess I was wrong. Nice boat though is trojan, did you note trojan III at hartshill, by the crt yard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie Booth Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 If I may make so bold, Laurie B's is a later boat / or built to a better specification; looks more like a 'conventional' NB, and I assume it's not a V-hull? She is V hull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGoat Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 She is V hull Thanks - I'll file that away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuthound Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 Thanks - I'll file that away. If you do that it will make a hole and Laurie's boat will sink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie Booth Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 If you do that it will make a hole and Laurie's boat will sink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickfox Posted December 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 If you buy a used boat and would like to put in central heating (radiators), how big of a deal is that and what would be a ballpark cost for a 40 foot boat? thanks Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 If you buy a used boat and would like to put in central heating (radiators), how big of a deal is that and what would be a ballpark cost for a 40 foot boat? thanks Nick How would you be 'powering' the radiators ? If you are talking about a stand-alone diesel system (eg Eberspacher) then £2000 should see you with a few pennies change (depending on the location of cupboards etc. If you are talking about a solid fuel fired back-boiler system and the (presumably) already installed fire did not have a back-boiler, then you would need to 1) have a fire which can have a back boiler fitted, or 2) Buy a complete new 'fire & back boiler' I would suggest that, again, it would be in the order of £2000 for option 2. Prices include radiators, pipe-work and labour and the 'water heating system' (allow extra for pump if needed) DIY would reduce the cost - depends if you want a professional to install it. Unless you have a central heating pump installed into the system (additional £300+ ?) then you are relying on a thermo-siphon system and you need a gradual 'slope' on the pipes to allow hot water to rise into the radiators and 'cold' to return to the 'boiler' - not quite like a domestic installation. If you buy a used boat and would like to put in central heating (radiators), how big of a deal is that and what would be a ballpark cost for a 40 foot boat? thanks Nick How would you be 'powering' the radiators ? If you are talking about a stand-alone diesel system (eg Eberspacher) then £2000 should see you with a few pennies change (depending on the location of cupboards etc. If you are talking about a solid fuel fired back-boiler system and the (presumably) already installed fire did not have a back-boiler, then you would need to 1) have a fire which can have a back boiler fitted, or 2) Buy a complete new 'fire & back boiler' I would suggest that, again, it would be in the order of £2000 for option 2. Prices include radiators, pipe-work and labour and the 'water heating system' (allow extra for pump if needed) DIY would reduce the cost - depends if you want a professional to install it. Unless you have a central heating pump installed into the system (additional £300+ ?) then you are relying on a thermo-siphon system and you need a gradual 'slope' on the pipes to allow hot water to rise into the radiators and 'cold' to return to the 'boiler' - not quite like a domestic installation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickfox Posted December 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 (edited) Thank you Alan. I'm not sure yet which system I would use. I may even ending getting a boat with one built in. But I just wanted to know if it was feasible and how much. Now I know and that's important information to me. Thanks. n Edited December 11, 2016 by nickfox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickfox Posted December 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 I guess you guys can tell I'm on somewhat of a budget. If you buy a boat that has a faded/oxidized paint job but still looks good is there someway to refresh the paint like wet sanding it with some 1500 grit paper and putting on a clear coat after that? Is that something that people do? thanks n Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwatch Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Try a cutting compound and then a good waxing or polish. Some use baby oil, on their paintwork as well. Silicon spray? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 I guess you guys can tell I'm on somewhat of a budget. If you buy a boat that has a faded/oxidized paint job but still looks good is there someway to refresh the paint like wet sanding it with some 1500 grit paper and putting on a clear coat after that? Is that something that people do? thanks n There is a product used by the motor trade which removes a very very thin layer of topcoat from the vehicle's paint, thus exposing the shinier paint beneath. Could called "T-Cut" but I have no doubt there are various brands which do a similar job. Why, have you found a loveable but dingy boat? Silicon spray? They probably do, while more sensible people apply their paint using a brush or roller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwatch Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Perhaps it's a siliy con. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Perhaps it's a siliy con. Tee-hee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwatch Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Tee-hee.Dont over do-it Mike! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickfox Posted December 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) There is a product used by the motor trade which removes a very very thin layer of topcoat from the vehicle's paint, thus exposing the shinier paint beneath. Could called "T-Cut" but I have no doubt there are various brands which do a similar job. Why, have you found a loveable but dingy boat? They probably do, while more sensible people apply their paint using a brush or roller. Mike, I found this boat, the Little Stinker, that I think is really cute. https://www.apolloduck.com/advert.phtml?id=500179 and as you can see, the paint could use a little freshening up. n Edited December 12, 2016 by nickfox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuthound Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) I restored the paint on my boat by using Farecla G3. Initially I tried T-Cut, but the paint soon went patchy again. Finish off with 2 coats of Craftmaster Caranuba Wax. Edited to add the last sentance. Edited December 12, 2016 by cuthound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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