fittie Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 In the past I think I have seen a picture of a GU boat with a lamp seen through the doors of the engine 'ole but I can't find it now so I could do with a pointer. Are there any shots with one on the deck board? I was hoping to paint my GU lamp so was interested to see what they were like and, as I think they were a backup, I was wondering how they were mounted? Cheers. Seasons Greetings to you all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Hogg Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 In the past I think I have seen a picture of a GU boat with a lamp seen through the doors of the engine 'ole but I can't find it now so I could do with a pointer. Are there any shots with one on the deck board? I was hoping to paint my GU lamp so was interested to see what they were like and, as I think they were a backup, I was wondering how they were mounted? Cheers. Seasons Greetings to you all All GUCCCo boats were fitted with electric lamps from when built, those on some motors being slightly off centre to port. As far as I know no paraffin lamps were used as having modern lighting was part of their improvements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fittie Posted December 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 I have a GU lamp from Bawtry 229 with number on the back - they were issued, I believe as a backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie57 Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 Inventory added for those who may not have seen this before! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fittie Posted December 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 Thank you, very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWM Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 I have a GU lamp from Bawtry 229 with number on the back - they were issued, I believe as a backup. Could you put a picture of your lamp on here? Would be nice to see one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 Inventory added for those who may not have seen this before! Fascinating! Are these available for other boats, and if so where are they held, please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Nibble Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 Off topic but anyone got any use for a masthead lamp from a warship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie57 Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 Fascinating! Are these available for other boats, and if so where are they held, please? I've not seen another, I don't know if others exist. This is my own, it came from Arthur Pearsall many years ago. It raises several questions eg why running blocks for a motor - and what is the last handwritten entry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 I've not seen another, I don't know if others exist. This is my own, it came from Arthur Pearsall many years ago. It raises several questions eg why running blocks for a motor - and what is the last handwritten entry? Or indeed the "cabin towing stud", (if it means what I think it means). And 2 tillers? Just a spare, or two that differed in some way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie57 Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 The cabin towing stud would be the removable one for the butties cabin roof when using the running blocks, the 2 tillers would mean there's a spare. No mention though of the mast pulley for use with the running blocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Hogg Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 Fascinating list, what's a sand box for? Two tillers to me is one for motor and one for butty. And what's an "electric warning lamp"? Encaladus and Lyra were used for some publicity shots which I believe I may hold copies of, will have a sift tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 The cabin towing stud would be the removable one for the butties cabin roof when using the running blocks..... Yes, my assumption also, but, as you already said for the running blocks, I would expect it to be part of the butty's inventory, not that of the motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete harrison Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 And 2 tillers? Just a spare, or two that differed in some way? The vast majority of gauge tables for G.U.C.C.Co. Ltd. narrow boats, including those transcribed onto B.C.N. gauge tables, list a spare tiller as being on board when weighed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 The vast majority of gauge tables for G.U.C.C.Co. Ltd. narrow boats, including those transcribed onto B.C.N. gauge tables, list a spare tiller as being on board when weighed. Yes, now you remind me, this is indeed true for "Letchworth", (later "Flamingo"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufford Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 Does anyone know what the original tillers look like? I think I may have a very early tiller on Rufford. Will try post pics. P.s. in hospital. Baby enroute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 P.s. in hospital. Baby enroute About bloody time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pluto Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 This is a similar list for the Canal Transport boat Eden on the L&LC. There are several similar lists in the Canal Transport archive at Ellesmere Port but they are often hand-written. I remember Charlie Atkins having a printed book for stores which came with Mendip, and he suggesting that it was the result of a lot of red tape immediately after nationalisation because of all the ex-military staff employed at management level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Hogg Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 This is one of the publicity shots tsken of Encaladus and Lyra in Limehouse dock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek R. Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 That picture tells stories! The lifebelt looks like it's taking the place of a fender, the skipper's thinking he could use it to fend off the lighter, and the shambles in the holds are sort of reflected in the stance of both crew - who would be prevented from adjusting the loads due to dock regulations governed by the Unions. Bet they'll be glad to get loaded and out of it! I see the Ramshead is getting some protection too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fittie Posted December 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 When was this taken? Year that is not 9:16 Monday morning etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Hogg Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 When was this taken? Year that is not 9:16 Monday morning etc Looking at the white band on the counter, the boats are brand new. So my guess is autumn 1935. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie57 Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 Could well be - If that is indeed a child in the butty's slide ole then it wouldn't be in the 1938/9 period that Mr Pearsall had these boats as he had no children. He was aged around 38 then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 I see the Ramshead is getting some protection too. Well spotted - I wonder what with? Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 (edited) They are not my mental image of what I might expect a publicity photo to look like. Everything looks so disorganised and out of place - chaotic almost. I don't know a great deal about any of the different types when delivered, but if these are more or less as they were, I note that motor's rams head is very much the shape we expect today. I don't know if that was true of all the Northwich boats, but I know that many of the earliest pictures of Woolwich built boats often show a rams head with much bigger radius curves - something that seems to have largely got changed over time. Edited December 29, 2015 by alan_fincher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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