Yale Lock

[Traveller]

In course of purchasing an Nb, which has now had a good survey. Only issue for me is the side doors are secured by a Yale (think it is Yale) lock but the previous owner (now deceased) has lost the key. Are there any options other than drilling it out?

Thanks

Colin

[bigste]

Yale type lock barrels are easily changed by unscrewing the lock body from the inside of the door. You don't need to buy a new lock body, just the barrel with keys.

[IanM]

Was I the only one wondering what canal Yale Lock was on?

[wreckferret]

You should be able to remove it from the inside......

 

The reverse of fitting it as they say (could with mine anyway)

 

ETA: Must type faster.....

Edited April 7, 2014 by wreckferret

[Traveller]

Cannot get to the inside - not without taking the paneling on the inside of the door off. Seems to be some sort of rim lock

[Chalky]

If you can open the doors you can usually get at the two screws that hold the rear latch on - they're usually on the side of the latch facing the striker plate. Undo these and the rear of the lock will come off. What you should then see is a small metal plate with 2 screws with a flat metal rod between them - the metal rod operated the latch. Undoing the two screws (they'll be quite long) will allow the lock barrel to be withdrawn from the door. You can buy replacement barrels - reverse the process to fit the new one. You may need a hack saw to shorten the flat metal rod.

Edited April 7, 2014 by Chalky

[wreckferret]

Was I the only one wondering what canal Yale Lock was on?

 

Nope......

[Traveller]

Take your point re which canal - this Lock is on the Little Ouse :-)

[chazzy]

Are they double doors? if so I would assume the second door is secured with shoot bolts inside. The doors could possibly with a bit of force be sprung open with the second door unbolted. A second thought can you slip the latch with something like a knife or scraper from the inside?

[Traveller]

Its opening the doors that is the issue. I can pull all the bolts for the doors and hatch but still the doors won't open - they move about an inch but won't open. Maybe I shall have to go for it with a hefty shove but it might break something!

Edited April 7, 2014 by Traveller

[mango]

Was I the only one wondering what canal Yale Lock was on?

It's not on the Union Canal and I think Traveller is pulling your Legge about it being on the Little Ouse.

[Traveller]

The Yale Lock is on the narrowboat Brahms based currently on the Little Ouse

[Paul C]

Yale type lock barrels are easily changed by unscrewing the lock body from the inside of the door. You don't need to buy a new lock body, just the barrel with keys.

 

Not necessarily true (depending on the type of lock - Yale make MANY different kinds!) It might need turning about 15 deg with the key.

 

Its opening the doors that is the issue. I can pull all the bolts for the doors and hatch but still the doors won't open - they move about an inch but won't open. Maybe I shall have to go for it with a hefty shove but it might break something!

 

In that case I'd recommend to get a locksmith out who can bump the lock and turn it to open, then replace the barrel with a barrel/key. In fact, given that the previous owner hasn't given you the key, one wonders where it is and it might be a good idea to change the locks anyway (as general advice for any new boat purchaser).

[Delta9]

You can buy a cheap set of lock pics on Amazon or make a bump key (look up instructions on youtube)

[onionbargee]

It's not on the Union Canal and I think Traveller is pulling your Legge about it being on the Little Ouse.

I get these puns if no one else does.

 

If the Yale is old and worn it can be easy to pick, but unless you have the time to learn how you'll need a locksmith.

[Traveller]

Good point re changing locks. Thanks.

[Ray T]

If you tarry around Yale Lock for a while you may see some Chubb and perhaps an Avocet.

[lynalldisocvery]

Dont youtube bumping a yale lock, if you do buy something better, one of the first things I changed on my house after seeing the video!

[mango]

If you tarry around Yale Lock for a while you may see some Chubb and perhaps an Avocet.

The OP probably thinks we are silly Assas.

[NB Lola]

Can you slip a credit card through?

[David Schweizer]

If you could post a couple of pictures from both the inside and the outside, we will have a better idea of which type of lock you have. If all else fails, a locksmith will be able to open it for you, but they do charge a lot!

[exfire]

Can you slip a credit card through?

when I locked myself out I did this and it took less than 10 seconds to get in

Also someone on the marina paid a locksmith £60 to come out and he did the same

Edited April 7, 2014 by exfire

[Arthur Marshall]

Can you get at the door hinges to unscrew them from there?

The only way a locksmith could get me into my old hosue when I locked myself out was to drill a very small hole in the door and push a wire through that to spring the lock.

Edited April 7, 2014 by Arthur Marshall

[Traveller]

Can't get to the hinges but there is some useful info here. I don't pick the boat up until Sunday so it is possible the key might be found by then. If not I shall try the card approach and failing that a locksmith.

Thanks

Colin

Edited April 7, 2014 by Traveller

[pophops]

You say you can't get to the hinges. OK but can you get to the hinge pins? If you can, it may be possible to grind off the top end of the pins and punch the pins through.