TV Licence

[furnessvale]

Totally disagree. Adverts ruin what few good programs there are on the commercial channels.

I agree with you as well.

 

Given that government sets the licence fee anyway, why don't they just cover the cost out of general taxation and save all the cost of this enforcement nonsense.

 

George ex nb Alton retired

[Paul C]

I'm not bothered by adverts any more. I have one of them Freeview+ boxes. If I watch something on a channel other than BBC, I get the box to record it and start watching it 10-15 minutes after it starts. Then fast forward the adverts.

[Paul's Nulife4-2]

It is a bit unfair don't you think,

Why can't we just buy a TV,without the BBC channels on it, Then if you later decided you want to watch the BBC channels, phone up,pay your 'Fee/License' and they can then unlock that part of your TV reception for the term that has been paid for,,like a Mobile Phone PAYG !.

[eightpot]

I agree with you as well.

 

Given that government sets the licence fee anyway, why don't they just cover the cost out of general taxation and save all the cost of this enforcement nonsense.

 

George ex nb Alton retired

 

A government funded media? Bad idea. At least with the "unique" way the BBC is funded it can - attempt at least - appear to be impartial.

 

The posts about advertising (or the lack of) on the BBC are amusing, since the BBC run adverts all the time: about the BBC. Still, they've got to make the programmes length "ad friendly" when they come to sell them to overseas markets.

[Guest]

A government funded media? Bad idea. At least with the "unique" way the BBC is funded it can - attempt at least - appear to be impartial.

 

The posts about advertising (or the lack of) on the BBC are amusing, since the BBC run adverts all the time: about the BBC. Still, they've got to make the programmes length "ad friendly" when they come to sell them to overseas markets.

Why amusing?

 

The fundamental difference is that the BBC do not advertise their programs multiple times whilst programs are running. They wait unill the program has completed.

 

The point is ads on commercial TV disrupt the continuity of the program you are watching.

[Paul's Nulife4-2]

Yes,but I have to admit,some of the adverts are brilliant DH,

In my mind, better than some of the programs on the BBC !.

[Guest]

Yes,but I have to admit,some of the adverts are brilliant DH,

In my mind, better than some of the programs on the BBC !.

Then perhaps you should just search for all the ads. on You Tube, most of them are on there. You could then save yourself the licence fee.

[Paul's Nulife4-2]

Oh come on DH,,,don't be a humbug,,you know you like it when your favourite ad pops unexpectedly on to the screen,whilst you are making a brew,,and you just have to look.

Come on,,Puppies,Cats,Budgies,The Lynx advert,the Flake advert,,

PUPPIES,

[Guest]

Oh come on DH,,,don't be a humbug,,you know you like it when your favourite ad pops unexpectedly on to the screen,whilst you are making a brew,,and you just have to look.

Come on,,Puppies,Cats,Budgies,The Lynx advert,the Flake advert,,

PUPPIES,

Not being a humbug at all.

 

Some of the ads. are indeed excellent and worthy of an award in themselves. But put them between programs not during them.

[Paul's Nulife4-2]

Not being a humbug at all.

 

Some of the ads. are indeed excellent and worthy of an award in themselves. But put them between programs not during them.

Yes,,now that I do think is a better idea, (sorry,I must have missed the point earlier if that's what you ment)

 

So I Agree,or disagree,with the other members that agree,or disagree whatever related to the agreement of the above.

 

I think that clears that up !.

Edited March 11, 2014 by Paul's Nulife4-2

[eightpot]

On another tack, a recent news report to the perils of answering the door to a TV licence inspector, he might be fake:

 

http://www.itv.com/news/meridian/update/2014-03-11/suspect-pretending-to-be-from-tv-licensing-takes-cash/

[ditchcrawler]

It is a bit unfair don't you think,

Why can't we just buy a TV,without the BBC channels on it, Then if you later decided you want to watch the BBC channels, phone up,pay your 'Fee/License' and they can then unlock that part of your TV reception for the term that has been paid for,,like a Mobile Phone PAYG !.

About 20% goes to BBC Radio, then there is their internet services to pay for as well.

[mattlad]

Oh come on DH,,,don't be a humbug,,you know you like it when your favourite ad pops unexpectedly on to the screen,whilst you are making a brew,,and you just have to look.

Come on,,Puppies,Cats,Budgies,The Lynx advert,the Flake advert,,

PUPPIES,

I hear what you are saying but you have to wade through a load of rubbish adverts (ambulance chasers, payday loans, etc etc etc) waiting for the good 'uns.

[Paul's Nulife4-2]

Yes,,not easy I suppose,

We have got,Shopping Channels,

Action Channels,

Cartoon Channels,

Documetry Channels ect

Why not Advertising Channels?.

 

& As I say.it's a bit unfair in my mind, that we only need a license for the BBC, and we can't even choose to opt out from receiving it,,it's like the requirements for a license is forced upon us,regardless if we watch it.or not.

But I do love my Radio 2 Dichcrawler,so yes money well spent.

Edited March 11, 2014 by Paul's Nulife4-2

[Jerra]

& As I say.it's a bit unfair in my mind, that we only need a license for the BBC,

I am sure somebody will correct me if I am wrong but you need a license for ALL TV it is just the funds go to the BBC.

[john6767]

I am sure somebody will correct me if I am wrong but you need a license for ALL TV it is just the funds go to the BBC.

Correct you need a TV licence to watch all live TV. Nothing to do with watching BBC.

[manxmike]

It gets even more complicated for me, I do have a tv licence for my home - on the Isle of Man. My boat is in Cheshire, which is actually in a different country!

 

So, I can't help wondering if my home licence covers me. It is issued by the UK authorities and costs the same amount as in the UK even though we get fewer freeview (?) channels than in the UK.

 

On a sort of attached theme, if we have to pay for them with a licence fee how can they be called "freeview"

[Alan de Enfield]

My understanding is that if you are relying on your 'house' licence to 'cover your boat (or caravan) that there must be no one in the house at the same time - ie you cannot be using both house and boat TV 's at the same time or you are commiting an offence.

 

Exactly how that is monitored I havn't a clue.

[Guest]

Alan de Enfield, on 11 Mar 2014 - 11:46 PM, said:Alan de Enfield, on 11 Mar 2014 - 11:46 PM, said:

My understanding is that if you are relying on your 'house' licence to 'cover your boat (or caravan) that there must be no one in the house at the same time - ie you cannot be using both house and boat TV 's at the same time or you are commiting an offence.

 

Exactly how that is monitored I havn't a clue.

 

Please bluddy please just read the link John posted -

 

You don’t need a separate TV Licence for

Any device powered solely by its own internal batteries (i.e. it is not connected to an aerial or plugged into the mains). Your main home’s TV Licence will cover this.

Boats, touring caravans or vehicles as they’re already covered by your main home’s TV Licence.

Static caravans, mobile homes or moveable chalets. Your main home’s TV Licence will cover you provided you don’t watch TV in both homes at the same time. In this case you would need to complete a declaration form.

Edited March 11, 2014 by The Dog House

[furnessvale]

It gets even more complicated for me, I do have a tv licence for my home - on the Isle of Man. My boat is in Cheshire, which is actually in a different country!

 

So, I can't help wondering if my home licence covers me. It is issued by the UK authorities and costs the same amount as in the UK even though we get fewer freeview (?) channels than in the UK.

 

On a sort of attached theme, if we have to pay for them with a licence fee how can they be called "freeview"

Only certain parts of the UK. I am served by a remote transmitter and get far fewer channels than my brother who is served by Winter Hill.

 

No discount either for the fewer channels. I find the selection of channels they choose to supply very annoying, if they are claiming limited bandwidth stops them giving me more.

 

George ex nb Alton retired

[Ssscrudddy]

When I bought my 1st house I got a demand for a TV licence. I wrote back saying I didnt have a TV. I kept getting demands & threats of court action if I didnt buy a TV licence, they ignored all my letters saying I didnt have one. Eventually a bloke from a detector van knocked on the door claiming that he had detected me watching TV. BS I said, because I didnt have a TV, I invited him in & proved I didnt have a TV, & I insisted that he write it down in front of me.
Well they did take me to court for not having a TV licence, & lost, but still they kept sending demands & threatening court action unless I bought a TV licence. Eventually I took them to court for harrassment & they lost, that's when they finally stopped trying to get me to buy a TV licence.
Fast forward 20 years, I bought a computer monitor from PC world, & very soon after I got a demand for a TV licence, claiming I had bought a TV from Dixons. 3 times I wrote to them telling them this but they took no notice & kept sending demands to buy a TV licence & threats of court action if I didnt. In the end I got a solicitor friend to write to them pointing out that it was a matter of public record that I didnt have a TV in the past when their own employees confirmed this, & that they had already lost in court in the past when they ignored this fact, & that they had been convicted of harrassment for ignoring these facts, & if they didnt stop then they would face legal action I heard no more after that.

[Jerra]

costs the same amount as in the UK even though we get fewer freeview (?) channels than in the UK.

The point is you aren't paying alicense fee for any channels you are paying a license fee for the right to receive channels, be they purely terrestrial, freeview/freesat or from satellite e.g. sky.

 

As I understand it freeview is called freeview because you don't have to pay the provider as you do with some services e.g. sky

[KevMc]

When I bought my 1st house I got a demand for a TV licence. I wrote back saying I didnt have a TV. I kept getting demands & threats of court action if I didnt buy a TV licence, they ignored all my letters saying I didnt have one. Eventually a bloke from a detector van knocked on the door claiming that he had detected me watching TV. BS I said, because I didnt have a TV, I invited him in & proved I didnt have a TV, & I insisted that he write it down in front of me.

Well they did take me to court for not having a TV licence, & lost, but still they kept sending demands & threatening court action unless I bought a TV licence. Eventually I took them to court for harrassment & they lost, that's when they finally stopped trying to get me to buy a TV licence.

Fast forward 20 years, I bought a computer monitor from PC world, & very soon after I got a demand for a TV licence, claiming I had bought a TV from Dixons. 3 times I wrote to them telling them this but they took no notice & kept sending demands to buy a TV licence & threats of court action if I didnt. In the end I got a solicitor friend to write to them pointing out that it was a matter of public record that I didnt have a TV in the past when their own employees confirmed this, & that they had already lost in court in the past when they ignored this fact, & that they had been convicted of harrassment for ignoring these facts, & if they didnt stop then they would face legal action I heard no more after that.

 

I'm just sitting back waiting for the letters and threats - I'm bored and if they want to take me to court they are welcome to waste their money ... I told them twice that I don't watch live TV and I reckon that's enough, if they insist on wasting their money that's their problem.

[Ricco1]

In practical terms: should a 'licence person' knock on your boat door one day and demand entry to check whether you have 'receiving equipment' (a television) kindly tell him to return once he has got a warrant for entry. He/ she has no right to enter without this. Without proof of receiving equipment they can't prosecute you. That's unless they have a detector boat and we all know the answer to that.

 

Obviously then remove the television and leave it in a friend's boat and replace it after the chappy has returned with a warrant.

 

Actually the same applies in a house. My uncle used to do the job, most of the convictions he obtained were when householders admitted the 'offence'.

[john6767]

When I bought my 1st house I got a demand for a TV licence. I wrote back saying I didnt have a TV. I kept getting demands & threats of court action if I didnt buy a TV licence, they ignored all my letters saying I didnt have one. Eventually a bloke from a detector van knocked on the door claiming that he had detected me watching TV. BS I said, because I didnt have a TV, I invited him in & proved I didnt have a TV, & I insisted that he write it down in front of me.

Well they did take me to court for not having a TV licence, & lost, but still they kept sending demands & threatening court action unless I bought a TV licence. Eventually I took them to court for harrassment & they lost, that's when they finally stopped trying to get me to buy a TV licence.

Fast forward 20 years, I bought a computer monitor from PC world, & very soon after I got a demand for a TV licence, claiming I had bought a TV from Dixons. 3 times I wrote to them telling them this but they took no notice & kept sending demands to buy a TV licence & threats of court action if I didnt. In the end I got a solicitor friend to write to them pointing out that it was a matter of public record that I didnt have a TV in the past when their own employees confirmed this, & that they had already lost in court in the past when they ignored this fact, & that they had been convicted of harrassment for ignoring these facts, & if they didnt stop then they would face legal action I heard no more after that.

You should not get that any more, they don't report your name and address when you buy a TV now (even though you didn't buy a TV).

 

The Wireless Telegraphy Act of 1967 (as amended) has been repealed, meaning that from 25 June 2013 onwards you no longer need to send us customer name and address details when you sell or rent out TV equipment. This also means your business no longer has to keep sales records to comply with the law on TV Licensing. If you don’t need these records for anything else you can destroy them from 25 June.

In practical terms: should a 'licence person' knock on your boat door one day and demand entry to check whether you have 'receiving equipment' (a television) kindly tell him to return once he has got a warrant for entry. He/ she has no right to enter without this. Without proof of receiving equipment they can't prosecute you. That's unless they have a detector boat and we all know the answer to that.

 

Obviously then remove the television and leave it in a friend's boat and replace it after the chappy has returned with a warrant.

 

Actually the same applies in a house. My uncle used to do the job, most of the convictions he obtained were when householders admitted the 'offence'.

So you are saying that it is ok to commit a criminal offence.