BlueStringPudding Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 Berkhampstead this morning. Depressing and coming to a canal near you soon. That's unusual for Berko. Shame because the many really nice restaurants and boutiquey shops aren't benefiting from the custom of boaters mooring there this week. I wonder whether the local resturanteurs and council will twig that they've lost a customer base due to CaRT frightening off anyone who wants to moor for more than a day or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUMPY Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 Apart from one or two establishments I doubt they would miss the Trade, I know we cant afford to eat or shop other than at waitrose in Berko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscan Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 That's unusual for Berko. Shame because the many really nice restaurants and boutiquey shops aren't benefiting from the custom of boaters mooring there this week. I wonder whether the local resturanteurs and council will twig that they've lost a customer base due to CaRT frightening off anyone who wants to moor for more than a day or so. That is a lovely image of some of the old boaters queuing up at the Waitrose check out prior to having a quick look in the boutique shops prior to cocktails at the local fancy restaurant. Obviously a different class of long term resident as when I stayed there for a while it was a pint in the Riser or Chrystal Palace and a cheap take away but that was a while ago now. My mate still rates the charity shops though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenlyn Posted May 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 Oh I was out And missed you They left a year or so ago, I didnt say they were still there. I Have to say the new enforcement from CRT has worked wonders. Oh ok, so you do like to exagerate and tell it how it is........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenlyn Posted May 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 Apart from one or two establishments I doubt they would miss the Trade, I know we cant afford to eat or shop other than at waitrose in Berko. I thought The Gatsby was quite reasonable, and one simply cannot miss lunch at Cafe Rouge when its so local. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 I thought The Gatsby was quite reasonable, and one simply cannot miss lunch at Cafe Rouge when its so local. Cafe Rouge??? I realise now where all the boats have gone, to get some decent grub.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenlyn Posted May 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 Cafe Rouge??? I realise now where all the boats have gone, to get some decent grub.... Aha, north south divide again....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicknorman Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 (edited) Berkhampstead this morning. Depressing and coming to a canal near you soon.I suppose it depends on whether you think life is given to a canal by having lines of moored boats with or without occupiers, or whether it is given by having boats moving on the system. That said it does seem to be a bit quiet at the moment, but I can't see how that can relate to mooring issues. Edited May 6, 2013 by nicknorman 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUMPY Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 Cafe Rouge??? I realise now where all the boats have gone, to get some decent grub.... Indeed just another carp chain eatery. My local village pubs serve better food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 Aha, north south divide again....... I thought they were a chain and hence the standards and quality are supposed to be consistent, rather like maccy d's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenlyn Posted May 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 I suppose it depends on whether you think life is given to a canal by having lines of moored boats with or without occupiers, or whether it is given by having boats moving on the system. That said it does seem to be a bit quiet at the moment, but I can't see how that can relate to mooring issues. A canal, in the heart of a town, empty. This is before the new visitor mooring signs go up. Begs the question, are the SEVM proposals worth the expense gone into them? Half a million pounds. A sledgehammer reaction? Indeed just another carp chain eatery. My local village pubs serve better food. Hmmmm, uneducated pallet I suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotswoldsman Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 Indeed just another carp chain eatery. My local village pubs serve better food. I imagine Cafe Rouge are quite pleased about that. They try and cater for people with some understanding of dinning out, they are not catering for the pie and mash clientele. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 What's wrong with pie and mash? Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenlyn Posted May 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 What's wrong with pie and mash? Richard They shut the pie and mash shop in Greenwich, that really peed me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frangar Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 I suppose cafe rouge is ok if you like hearing the ping of the microwave before you dine....... Cheers Gareth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 I imagine Cafe Rouge are quite pleased about that. They try and cater for people with some understanding of dinning out, they are not catering for the pie and mash clientele. That is one of the funniest things I have read on here in very long time.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStringPudding Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 That is a lovely image of some of the old boaters queuing up at the Waitrose check out prior to having a quick look in the boutique shops prior to cocktails at the local fancy restaurant. Obviously a different class of long term resident as when I stayed there for a while it was a pint in the Riser or Chrystal Palace and a cheap take away but that was a while ago now. My mate still rates the charity shops though. I was neither talking about "long term residents" nor "old boaters". By making a change in regulation that enabled CaRT to forceably remove those types of boater, they've clearly put off all the other boaters. Where are the shiny boaters in those photos? Where are boaters who work for a living and have a disposable income? (Believe it or not we're not all a stereotype impoverished vagrant category of boater. And I for one am well up for a cocktail or twelve, a Thai meal and a stroll by the canal in Berko. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenlyn Posted May 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 I was neither talking about "long term residents" nor "old boaters". By making a change in regulation that enabled CaRT to forceably remove those types of boater, they've clearly put off all the other boaters. Where are the shiny boaters in those photos? Where are boaters who work for a living and have a disposable income? (Believe it or not we're not all a stereotype impoverished vagrant category of boater. And I for one am well up for a cocktail or twelve, a Thai meal and a stroll by the canal in Berko. ) You forgot cafe rouge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotswoldsman Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 What's wrong with pie and mash? Richard Nothing I like a bit of Game Pie .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 What wine would you recommend with that? Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam1uk Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 I was neither talking about "long term residents" nor "old boaters". By making a change in regulation that enabled CaRT to forceably remove those types of boater, they've clearly put off all the other boaters. Where are the shiny boaters in those photos? Where are boaters who work for a living and have a disposable income? (Believe it or not we're not all a stereotype impoverished vagrant category of boater. And I for one am well up for a cocktail or twelve, a Thai meal and a stroll by the canal in Berko. ) My guess would be that the boater who spent last night there have moved off, and the ones who'll spend tonight there hadn't yet arrived. Isn't it often the case with visitor moorings that they're a bit empty during the day -- that's when people are boating. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscan Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 I was neither talking about "long term residents" nor "old boaters". By making a change in regulation that enabled CaRT to forceably remove those types of boater, they've clearly put off all the other boaters. Where are the shiny boaters in those photos? Where are boaters who work for a living and have a disposable income? (Believe it or not we're not all a stereotype impoverished vagrant category of boater. And I for one am well up for a cocktail or twelve, a Thai meal and a stroll by the canal in Berko. ) We do miss the smileys on the iPad, thought the humour angle in my post was obvious. Sorry if it wasnt. There is as yet no change in regulation , there is no evidence of boaters being forceably removed so there must presumably just be a case of CRT using the existing regulations and the boaters (many of whom I assume work and have disposable incomes) deciding to comply with the 14 day rule. You have a point though it was always a popular destination for a long weekend, especially with a good weather forecast so perhaps people were put off with the perceived difficulty of mooring or maybe safely leaving the boat between weekends. It's been pretty busy in the midlands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotswoldsman Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 What wine would you recommend with that? Richard Chateau Mouton Rothchild 1998 was a good year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 There was never a problem mooring in Berko in my experience, I was down the SE from 2009 to 2011 and never had a problem getting a spot somewhere on that stretch or somewhere lower down. Looking at that stretch looks like slash and burn philosophy. I was installing solar panels in Milton Keynes on Thursday from 7.30am to 2.30pm, in all that time - 3 boats passed, on a glorious sunny day. People are watching the pennies, they can't afford to move as ofetn as they previously did. This is not just boaters , but everyone. CaRT clearing sites like this may lead to the end for businesses such as the Crystal Palace /Rising Sun(unlikely) and maybe take-aways. Jenlyn's photo is a snapshot of a normally bustling canal scene looking like a morgue - many people/families/kids in Berko visit the canal to see the boats and feed the ducks. No boats, less visits, less visits, less local revenue - it's not just the boaters who spend the money. This will be repeated more and more everywhere, and there is no need for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenlyn Posted May 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 My guess would be that the boater who spent last night there have moved off, and the ones who'll spend tonight there hadn't yet arrived. Isn't it often the case with visitor moorings that they're a bit empty during the day -- that's when people are boating. Its been like that all weekend. 9 boats have been through here since friday 1500hrs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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