Turning 180 degrees without a bowthruster

[flatplane8]

In case anyone has 3.5 minutes they want to kill,

is how we did it.

[ditchcrawler]

In case anyone has 3.5 minutes they want to kill,

is how we did it.

Which way was up stream?

[AJLintern]

I guess that's the paddle wheel effect of the prop driving the boat sideways?

[blackrose]

Isn't that the M25 bridge by Bell Weir lock?

 

I guess you need to use ropes to turn a barge of that size around. I can spin mine around almost within it's own length (without using the BT).

Edited October 12, 2011 by blackrose

[GUMPY]

Which way was up stream?

upstream is behind the camera if its where I think it is and the weir is behind on the left the lock on the right.

[blackrose]

Which way was up stream?

 

Upstream is where the camera operator is standing. As you look at the boat, on your left side behind you is the downstream side of a weir and behind you on your right is the downstream side of a lock.

Edited October 12, 2011 by blackrose

[GUMPY]

Isn't that the M25 bridge by Bell Weir lock?

 

I guess you need to use ropes to turn a barge of that size around. I can spin mine around almost within it's own length (without using the BT).

Is that with or without the BT

[Richard10002]

I guess that's the paddle wheel effect of the prop driving the boat sideways?

 

The springing effect of the rope on the bow is what is making the whole thing happen.

[flatplane8]

Hi,

 

Yes, it's Bell Weir lock, we were stopping at the Runnymeade hotel for a late lunch on the way back from Datchet.

 

No paddlewheel effect used, it was all done with a single rope from the dock to a bollard about 1/3 fron the bow. Other boats would certainly do this without, but Misterton won't.

Edited October 12, 2011 by flatplane8

[Ark Right]

In case anyone has 3.5 minutes they want to kill,

is how we did it.

 

Ok I'll take the bait, Is this some sort of difficult manoeuvre. I must be missing something here.

Wouldn't like to try it on some of the dodgy pontoons around the system.

Mind you I don't usually walk down the gunwales with my hands in my pockets

[flatplane8]

Ok I'll take the bait, Is this some sort of difficult manoeuvre. I must be missing something here.

Wouldn't like to try it on some of the dodgy pontoons around the system.

Mind you I don't usually walk down the gunwales with my hands in my pockets

 

No, just difficult for us due to size. Just shows what you can do with a rope, we were shown some things like this by ex-bargemen in Yorkshire. The gunwales are almost two feet wide, so not a real danger.

[carlt]

There aren't many boats about, these days, with a draught deep enough to take advantage of the little known Bell Weir Turntable.

[Ark Right]

No, just difficult for us due to size. Just shows what you can do with a rope, we were shown some things like this by ex-bargemen in Yorkshire. The gunwales are almost two feet wide, so not a real danger.

 

Cool stuff getting the knowledge from the barge guys, was just poking a bit of fun about the gunwales.

Cheers

A

[matty40s]

Ok I'll take the bait, Is this some sort of difficult manoeuvre. I must be missing something here.

Wouldn't like to try it on some of the dodgy pontoons around the system.

Mind you I don't usually walk down the gunwales with my hands in my pockets

 

I must admit Arkwright, I was waiting for the catch there, I could have done that single handed faster, and as for the guy with his hands in his pockets......."Go and get a Beer lad if you're bored"

[MtB]

Wouldn't it have gone around a whole lot quicker if you'd had the tiller well over to port?

[ditchcrawler]

Wouldn't it have gone around a whole lot quicker if you'd had the tiller well over to port?

Or just untie the stern and go for a beer or two, while your gone the flow would have dragged it round.

[flatplane8]

Wouldn't it have gone around a whole lot quicker if you'd had the tiller well over to port?

 

Hi, it might be, we tend to do things slowly due to inertia and relatively low power (30hp Lister JP3M). Having the wheel over to port might cause the stern to swing wide, but with a short rope on the front should be ok, I may try it next time.

[Guest]

Used to be able to do it without a line in a small Woolwich motor (Bargus) as most boats will tend to swing to one side when reversing with full throttle. When you've got the boat swinging, judicious application of forward gear with appropriate rudder deflection will keep the turn going then just apply more reverse as required and repeat until you are pointing where you want to go. The boat doesn't move much and virtually rotates around its mid-point. Best attempted where there's plenty of room, though!

Edited October 13, 2011 by Speedy23

[flatplane8]

Used to be able to do it without a line in a small Woolwich motor (Bargus) as most boats will tend to swing to one side when reversing with full throttle. When you've got the boat swinging, judicious application of forward gear with appropriate rudder deflection will keep the turn going then just apply more reverse as required and repeat until you are pointing where you want to go. The boat doesn't move much and virtually rotates around its mid-point. Best attempted where there's plenty of room, though!

 

Thats how we turn round on the Thames, by using prop-walk, which is quite pronounced. On Misterton, she pulls the stern to port in reverse, so it would work against us on the manoever in the video. If the mooring was the other side we might be able to do it without a rope as you say. One thing we've learnt is that once you have a line to shore, you can do quite a lot. Our normal mooring space has boats ahead ahead and behind, but by using a spring line, we can get into a gap only about 6 feet longer than our 74ft length.

Edited October 13, 2011 by flatplane8

[Dorman]

In case anyone has 3.5 minutes they want to kill,

is how we did it.

 

Some of the jeeties we have on the Avon wouldnt stand that

[Naughty Cal]

Thats how we turn round on the Thames, by using prop-walk, which is quite pronounced. On Misterton, she pulls the stern to port in reverse, so it would work against us on the manoever in the video. If the mooring was the other side we might be able to do it without a rope as you say. One thing we've learnt is that once you have a line to shore, you can do quite a lot. Our normal mooring space has boats ahead ahead and behind, but by using a spring line, we can get into a gap only about 6 feet longer than our 74ft length.

 

A gap 6ft bigger than your boat. Bloody hell chance would be a fine thing. We are sometimes lucky if we get six inches outside the pub

[flatplane8]

A gap 6ft bigger than your boat. Bloody hell chance would be a fine thing. We are sometimes lucky if we get six inches outside the pub

 

 

Its all in proportion darling

[Hairy-Neil]

I was busy watching for Eddie Stobart on the M25...

[Naughty Cal]

Its all in proportion darling

 

Yes your boat is three times as long as ours so we shall give you an gap 18 inches bigger than your boat.

 

Its all about proportion darling

[FadeToScarlet]

Yes your boat is three times as long as ours so we shall give you an gap 18 inches bigger than your boat.

 

Its all about proportion darling

 

But it weighs a good deal more than yours and has much less horsepower....