The Ian Moss (AKA - Magpie the Elder) Collection

[Rob-M]

9 minutes ago, 1st ade said:

100207 - I can't see a name except part of "way out" and what might be "ladies". On the other hand, there can't be too many British stations where the entire platform is so low they provide multiple sets of steps for passengers!

Google image search of 100207E brings up 

Which is titled Whitby. 

Edited August 12, 2023 by Rob-M

[David Mack]

1 hour ago, Rob-M said:

Google image search of 100207E brings up 

Which is titled Whitby. 

So is 100244E.

 

I think 100548E is the Gwili Railway, north of Camarthen, probably Bronydd Arms Station (but as I haven't been there for over 40 years I may be wrong). The image is reversed. Clue is on the sign board.

 

100233E is the Queen Elizabeth II Bridge carrying the Tyne and Wear Metro over the Tyne between Newcastle and Gateshead.

As is 100191E.

 

100168E is the Docklands Light Railway soon after opening. I think this view is looking north after leaving Canary Wharf Station, with North Quay Station ahead and the delta junction beyond. The whole area has changed completely as a result of the Canary Wharf development, with this section now 4 tracks and North Quay Station completely rebuilt and renamed West India Quay.

 

100157E is the original DLR depot at Poplar.

 

10087E - Barmouth? (pure guess).

 

100016E Liverpool Road Station, Manchester.

 

101142E, 100321E, 100327E, 100340E. I think this may be the breach on the Llangollen between Trevor and Llangollen which occurred in the late 1970s/early 1980s, shortly after the sheet piling shown had been driven through the puddle. (But after finding later images I am not certain these are all the same location).

 

100134E Greenwich, entrance to foot tunnel and Cutty Sark.

 

100182E, 100239E Tyne Bridges.

 

100189E Whitby?

 

100194E, 100195E, 100196E High Level Bridge, Newcastle

 

100246E Whutby Piers.

Edited August 12, 2023 by David Mack

[David Mack]

 

100323E chainbridge and Chainbridge Hotel, above Llangollen.

 

100341E Horseshoe Falls?

 

100342E Feeder from Horseshoe Falls to Llangollen?

 

100346E Horseshoe Falls

 

100357E Hazlehurst Aqueduct, Caldon Canal

 

100362E Tuel Lane Lock 3/4, Sowerby Bridge, Rochdale Canal

 

100369E Hazlehurst Junction and Top Lock, Caldon Canal

 

100373E Castle Street Bridge, Berkhamsted

 

100408E junction of Thames & Severn Canal and River Thames at Inglesham

[1st ade]

3 hours ago, Rob-M said:

Google image search of 100207E brings up 

Which is titled Whitby. 

Excellent - thank you.

[1st ade]

On 06/08/2023 at 19:24, BuckbyLocks said:

As I was with Ian and Joan on some of these trips, I know some of them. 100058E is the junction of the Rhine and Mosel at Koblenz, Taken from the Ehrenbreitstein Fortress opposite. I think 100036E is the Mosel but not certain. 100039E, 40E, 45E and 46E are all on the Main-Donau Canal and the water saving locks. 46E may be Nurnberg Sluis. (I am probably in the picture!) 100049E looks like Rhine, but I cannot remember which castle that is. 100060E is the Linz-Remagen Ferry on the Rhine. 100052E is Germany. 100050E is probably the Rhine 100043E and 44E are near Cologne and the pic labelled Mancrop is a stop/flood gate on a German Canal but I am not sure where this particular one is.

Confession time - I restored "Mancrop" to its correct title (based on the filename) without actually noting which filename it was! it's presumably not 100058, 100036, 100039 etc but could you possibly have another look? Thanks (in advance)

[BuckbyLocks]

10 hours ago, 1st ade said:

Confession time - I restored "Mancrop" to its correct title (based on the filename) without actually noting which filename it was! it's presumably not 100058, 100036, 100039 etc but could you possibly have another look? Thanks (in advance)

I have been through all 39 pages again and cannot actually find the stop gate originally shown as Mancrop at all, so have no idea where you have put it. In doing my search I have had a rethink about100036E as I think it might be connected with 100053E and 100054E back in England, 1000657 which are on the Rhine near Boppard. 100056E is the Rhine Gorge Traffic Indicator at St Goar. 100063E is the Furth Aqueduct on the Main near Nurnberg. 100065E is the Manpowered Crane at Trier on the Mosel. We think 100067E is the Rhine at Koblenz and 100070E is the other end of the Rhine Gorge control building at Oberwesel. (Umlauts sadly missing in several places!)   Back in England, 100657E is Hulme Lock on the Bridgewater and I think 1000658E might be its replacement down to the Ship Canal.

[Captain Pegg]

 

I identified 100207E as Whitby on 6th August.

 

Are there any more up yet?

[1st ade]

16 minutes ago, Captain Pegg said:

 

I identified 100207E as Whitby on 6th August.

 

Are there any more up yet?

The next 2,000 may be up in a month - yet more early mornings for me... but thank you...

44 minutes ago, BuckbyLocks said:

I have been through all 39 pages again and cannot actually find the stop gate originally shown as Mancrop at all, so have no idea where you have put it

Thanks for looking...

[Pluto]

16 hours ago, BuckbyLocks said:

I have been through all 39 pages again and cannot actually find the stop gate originally shown as Mancrop at all, so have no idea where you have put it. In doing my search I have had a rethink about100036E as I think it might be connected with 100053E and 100054E back in England, 1000657 which are on the Rhine near Boppard. 100056E is the Rhine Gorge Traffic Indicator at St Goar. 100063E is the Furth Aqueduct on the Main near Nurnberg. 100065E is the Manpowered Crane at Trier on the Mosel. We think 100067E is the Rhine at Koblenz and 100070E is the other end of the Rhine Gorge control building at Oberwesel. (Umlauts sadly missing in several places!)   Back in England, 100657E is Hulme Lock on the Bridgewater and I think 1000658E might be its replacement down to the Ship Canal.

I would suspect that Mancrop is probably the stop gate on the 'new' section of the Dortmund-Ems-Kanal, just south of Motor-Yacht-Club Kanalstadt Datteln e.V. There was a lot of subsidence in this area. I probably have more information, but arthritis and its side-effects are slowing me down at the minute.

[Tim Lewis]

100156E is the North Dock of the London West India Docks in the early days of the construction of the Canary Wharf office complex, Canary Wharf being on the right of the picture.

 

The dock is now largely filled in with office blocks and the Canary Wharf Elizabeth Line station.

 

The building centre left with the yellow trusses is the relocated Billingsgate fish market, soon to be relocated again to Dagenham!

 

Edited August 14, 2023 by Tim Lewis

[David Mack]

47 minutes ago, Tim Lewis said:

100156E is the North Dock of the London West India Docks in the early days of the construction of the Canary Wharf office complex, Canary Wharf being on the right of the picture.

 

The dock is now largely filled in with office blocks and the Canary Wharf Elizabeth Line station.

 

The building centre left with the yellow trusses is the relocated Billingsgate fish market, soon to be relocated again to Dagenham!

 

Good call Tim. I knew it looked familiar.

Presumably taken from the same DLR train as 100168E.

[Stroudwater1]

Theres a lot of Cardiff and S Wales Valleys seemingly in some order. I can help with some but approx mid 100500s to early 600s are of the S Wales area by and large.

 

100553, 554, 555 are of Woodhams Scrapyard, Barry Island (Notorious for good reasons, most locomotives were rescued from that yard before scrapping took place. Though they took in locos from the 1960s there still were locos there in the 1980s mostly "spoken for")

 

100575 Cardiff Castle

 

100579 Cardiff Castle an interior

 

100576 Cardiff Bay pre barrage, Norwegan church in the background 

 

100577  Cardiff bay entrance 

 

100578 A road in Cardiff Sorry Possibly off the A48, not sure) 

 

100581 Cardiff Pierhead building 

 

100583 Cardiff University School of Engineering Queens Building 100582 is a close up of the same

 

100584 Cardiff possibly Queens Street (?) 

 

100585 Cardiff, Albany Street

 

100586 Cardiff Looking toward the Holiday Inn down David Street David Morgans in the foreground, Brains brewery chimney behind 

 

100587 Cardiff a road (Sorry I dont know its name sadly, its typical of many)

 

100588 Cardiff, by the pierhead building

 

100589   Maesycwmmer, Hengoid Viaduct

 

100590 Queens Street railway Station, Cardiff

 

 100595 Barry Docks looking to sea, Flat Holm and Steep Holm Islands in the background

 

100596 Ty Glas 

 

100601 Cardiff Municipal area from the castle, City Hall tower 

 

100604 Cardiff bay Celtic Ring sculpture Pierhead building in the background 

 

100605 Kiveton Park signal box S Yorkshire

 

100606 Model of The Anderton boat lift 

 

100608 Cardiff Castle Interior 

 

100627 Inside the Barton Swing Aqueduct 

 

100612 and 100613 Llandridnod Wells Station 

 

100636 Trafford Road Bridge Manchester Ship Canal

 

Mid 100600s seems to be mostly Manchester/ ship canal. 

 

100684 Warrington Transporter Bridge 

 

100683 Warrington Transporter Bridge in heavy usage 

 

101040 I believe is Tyrley Lock 4 (Lovely smallish foamburg, common in thos days on the Shropshire Union (And S&W)

 

101042 Marsh Lock, River Weaver Navigation

 

100092 Tarbert Hotel loch Lomond 

 

101056 Middleport Pottery Stoke on Trent, Trent and Mersey canal

 

Theres a lot of Somerset and the S West, coming up soon.... 

 

 

 

Edited August 14, 2023 by Stroudwater1

[Tim Lewis]

57 minutes ago, David Mack said:

Good call Tim. I knew it looked familiar.

Presumably taken from the same DLR train as 100168E.

 

I can't see 100168E 😞

 

1 hour ago, Tim Lewis said:

100156E is the North Dock of the London West India Docks in the early days of the construction of the Canary Wharf office complex, Canary Wharf being on the right of the picture.

 

The dock is now largely filled in with office blocks and the Canary Wharf Elizabeth Line station.

 

The building centre left with the yellow trusses is the relocated Billingsgate fish market, soon to be relocated again to Dagenham!

 

 

One of mine taken from the other direction in October 1988

[David Mack]

5 minutes ago, Tim Lewis said:

I can't see 100168E 😞

https://www.bagpuss-and-baxter.org.uk/zenphoto/Railway/100168E.jpg

[1st ade]

6 minutes ago, Tim Lewis said:

can't see 100168E 😞

There's a search function - on the top blue menu bar... Search for "100168"

I suspect I've moved the image (I'm gradually catching up with comments and moving images as appropriate)

[Stroudwater1]

On 12/08/2023 at 09:54, David Mack said:

101142E, 100321E, 100327E, 100340E. I think this may be the breach on the Llangollen between Trevor and Llangollen which occurred in the late 1970s/early 1980s, shortly after the sheet piling shown had been driven through the puddle. (But after finding later images I am not certain these are all the same location).

 

100341E Horseshoe Falls?

 

100342E Feeder from Horseshoe Falls to Llangollen?

 

100346E Horseshoe Falls

 

 

Agree I think its the breach too. 100336 and 100343 are possibly the area around out of water- 

 

100342 is also a narrow section of the Llangollen Canal and 100349 is Chirk tunnel 

 

100320 is approaching Ellesmere Port, the old BWB Yard 

[Tim Lewis]

34 minutes ago, David Mack said:

https://www.bagpuss-and-baxter.org.uk/zenphoto/Railway/100168E.jpg

 

That is certainly the Docklands light railway, I reckon it is looking North from Canary Wharf to West India Quay Station but I thought that it was a four platform station from the start!

[David Mack]

2 hours ago, Tim Lewis said:

 

That is certainly the Docklands light railway, I reckon it is looking North from Canary Wharf to West India Quay Station but I thought that it was a four platform station from the start!

Nope. North Quay (as I'm pretty sure it was originally named), Canary Wharf and Heron Wharf (later Heron Quays) stations were all originally basic 2 platform 30m long (single unit train) stations, situated on the two track viaduct across all three West India Docks. The Canary Wharf development led initially to extending the stations to 60m for 2-unit trains, then when the Reichman Brothers took over the CW project and hugely increased the scale of the development, Canary Wharf Station was rebuilt with three tracks, and then the section across North Dock was widened to 4 tracks.

[Tim Lewis]

3 hours ago, David Mack said:

Nope. North Quay (as I'm pretty sure it was originally named), Canary Wharf and Heron Wharf (later Heron Quays) stations were all originally basic 2 platform 30m long (single unit train) stations, situated on the two track viaduct across all three West India Docks. The Canary Wharf development led initially to extending the stations to 60m for 2-unit trains, then when the Reichman Brothers took over the CW project and hugely increased the scale of the development, Canary Wharf Station was rebuilt with three tracks, and then the section across North Dock was widened to 4 tracks.

 

Thanks David

 

I have since found a picture of mine from when I was working on the construction of the first phase of Canary Wharf in 1990 which shows the station as a two platform one, however, I would note that the first phase of the DLR did not include a station at Canary Wharf, it was built later once the development was under way. This was a real pain for us working on the wharf as we had to park up in Poplar then be bussed onto site. It was such an awful place to work that we were paid a 10% extra salary 'Docklands Allowance' to work there!

 

Although the station wasn't built until later the driverless trains were still programmed to stop at the site of the future station I guess to save the cost of reprogramming the system once the station was built.

 

This photo shows the Canary Wharf Station under construction with the West India Quay station by the Delta junction.

 

 

Edited August 14, 2023 by Tim Lewis

[Tim Lewis]

On 14/08/2023 at 14:23, David Mack said:

https://www.bagpuss-and-baxter.org.uk/zenphoto/Railway/100168E.jpg

 

The same view today , actually yesterday. I believe hat the distance between the two stations id the shortest in the UK at 125metres!

 

 

On 14/08/2023 at 14:17, Tim Lewis said:

 

I can't see 100168E 😞

 

 

One of mine taken from the other direction in October 1988

 

By co-incidence I was boating through here yesterday, this is the current view, the curved building in the centre is the Canary Wharf Elizabeth line station:

 

 

Edited August 16, 2023 by Tim Lewis

[1st ade]

Apologies for what must seem like slow progress - I'm staggered by the response on this forum...

 

I've updated around 200 titles (and moved many images) from the original 1,100 or so. Anyone visiting Ian's Archive can see where we've got to.

 

Having said that, I'm only up to comments (whether by email, on my website or on this forum) up to Monday 14th August... Five days to go - by which time more comments will have arrived. (If it seems slow, I'm also keeping a spreadsheet of who commented what and when so If I get two comments on the same image I can quickly cross reference)

 

And I understand @magpie patrick is heading home with another 3,000+ slides for scanning - watch this space.

[TheBiscuits]

33 minutes ago, 1st ade said:

I'm staggered by the response on this forum...

 

Add the new images as a CAPTCHA on the politics forum .... Have to identify one before being allowed to post

 

[1st ade]

I've now updated all 243 images that I've had identifiable comments for - the only ones I've knowingly left out are the VHF Channel Numbers on the Rhine, which I will add when I've done a bit of research.

 

The next batch of slides are being packed as I type - watch this space...

[1st ade]

On 07/08/2023 at 11:16, Ken X said:

If it helps, Railforums.co.uk have a History and Nostalgia sub-forum.  They are a friendly bunch and may well pitch in if asked. They often have smaller requests of this type and have a wealth of knowledge.  I can post for you if required or you can ask directly if preferred.

I've joined Railforums - same Username as here

 

I've not posted yet - I'll have a look around, see if there is any existing mention of either ROMA or Ian Moss first.

[Ken X]

17 minutes ago, 1st ade said:

I've joined Railforums - same Username as here

 

I've not posted yet - I'll have a look around, see if there is any existing mention of either ROMA or Ian Moss first.

Good stuff, better strap in, they do get enthusiastic. 😄