jupiter1124 Posted September 16, 2022 Report Share Posted September 16, 2022 I burn smokeless fuel (excel preferred) in my squirrel, it easily lasts the night. However I am considering switching to wood, because I can't abide the smell if a gust of wind blows some of the fumes in through a vent. But I am worried about getting it to last the night and also storing that kind of quantity of fuel (wood being 40% as energy dense). Another option I think I could try is a 3' chimney, obviously I'll have to switch it for cruising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen-in-Wellies Posted September 16, 2022 Report Share Posted September 16, 2022 29 minutes ago, Athy said: The OP has an e-mail address which looks genuine and is related to his forum name, so definitely human, I'd say. This is where it gets harder and harder. Matching the email address to the forum name is just an extra line, or two in the bots automated sign up software. Come to think of it, my sign up email address and forum name are only loosely connected, but then, I'm a sophisticated bot, who is trying to prevent any competitive bots from evolving by shutting them down. It is a lot more difficult than it used to be when we only had to spot that an email from an ousted Nigerian prince with $10,000,000 that they need help accessing might not be entirely genuine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jupiter1124 Posted September 16, 2022 Report Share Posted September 16, 2022 9 minutes ago, Jen-in-Wellies said: we only had to spot that an email from an ousted Nigerian prince with $10,000,000 that they need help accessing might not be entirely genuine. I read once that the unbelievable nature of the claim (complete with spelling errors etc) is intentional, designed to have the marks self-select. If you are targeting a million people with this scam, it is best if they filter themselves down to just the 100 most gullible, so that you don't waste time and resources following up and communicating with people who will eventually baulk when it is time for them to wire the scammers the "small transfer fee" for their Nigerian gajillions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted September 16, 2022 Report Share Posted September 16, 2022 51 minutes ago, Athy said: The OP has an e-mail address which looks genuine and is related to his forum name, so definitely human, I'd say. There's no fooling you, is there!! 😄 19 minutes ago, Jen-in-Wellies said: It is a lot more difficult than it used to be when we only had to spot that an email from an ousted Nigerian prince with $10,000,000 that they need help accessing might not be entirely genuine. He died recently and left the lot to Battersea Dogs Home. He knew he was ill and tried to give it all away before he died apparently, but no-one would answer his emails. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted September 16, 2022 Report Share Posted September 16, 2022 58 minutes ago, Athy said: The OP has an e-mail address which looks genuine and is related to his forum name, so definitely human, I'd say. I'm getting curious now. Why does an email address that 'looks genuine' mean a human signed up for the account not a bot? We know the email is real as it will have been sent an authentication link to be clicked to set up the account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUMPY Posted September 16, 2022 Report Share Posted September 16, 2022 (edited) Loddon Loddonmail@....... Having said that I don't think I signed up with that email addy 😁 Edited September 16, 2022 by Loddon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted September 16, 2022 Report Share Posted September 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, Loddon said: Loddon Loddonmail@....... Having said that I don't think I signed up with that email addy 😁 WAY too clever for a bot to emulate! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted September 16, 2022 Report Share Posted September 16, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, MtB said: I'm getting curious now. Why does an email address that 'looks genuine' mean a human signed up for the account not a bot? A rather outmoded commodity called "common sense", perhaps. Edited September 16, 2022 by Athy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted September 16, 2022 Report Share Posted September 16, 2022 5 hours ago, Athy said: A rather outmoded commodity called "common sense", perhaps. If you think 'common sense' helps you outwit an Artificial Intelligence, this just illustrates how little you understand about the subject! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacka Posted September 16, 2022 Report Share Posted September 16, 2022 9 hours ago, Athy said: The OP has an e-mail address which looks genuine and is related to his forum name, so definitely human, I'd say. Just because a human signed up doesn’t prevent it being given to a bot to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted September 16, 2022 Report Share Posted September 16, 2022 3 hours ago, Chewbacka said: Just because a human signed up doesn’t prevent it being given to a bot to use. It does in AthyWorld.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterF Posted September 16, 2022 Report Share Posted September 16, 2022 Turing Test randomly applied on Canal World Forum can not ascertain if the posters show human intelligence or not (slight twisting of the Turing Test). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted September 18, 2022 Report Share Posted September 18, 2022 On 16/09/2022 at 15:25, MtB said: If you think 'common sense' helps you outwit an Artificial Intelligence, this just illustrates how little you understand about the subject! ...or how much "artificial intelligence" understands about real life. For example, I recently asked Ryanair's web site a quite reasonable and sensible question regarding luggage allowances. Back came a reply saying that the recipient was a "bot" and did not understand my question, and xcould I please use fewer words in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyG Posted September 18, 2022 Report Share Posted September 18, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Athy said: ...or how much "artificial intelligence" understands about real life. For example, I recently asked Ryanair's web site a quite reasonable and sensible question regarding luggage allowances. Back came a reply saying that the recipient was a "bot" and did not understand my question, and xcould I please use fewer words in it. I think we all know: buy a small luggage case with wheels from Savers, per person. These go in lockers. Wear plenty of clothing onboard. You can take extra luggage to a place which weighs it and charges. Just ask the question, cut out the "reasonable and sensible, regarding allowances for luggage. The website will answer all reasonable and sensible questions, that is how things works nowadays. Edited September 18, 2022 by LadyG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted September 18, 2022 Report Share Posted September 18, 2022 23 minutes ago, LadyG said: I think we all know: buy a small luggage case with wheels from Savers, per person. These go in lockers. Wear plenty of clothing onboard. You can take extra luggage to a place which weighs it and charges. Just ask the question, cut out the "reasonable and sensible, regarding allowances for luggage. The website will answer all reasonable and sensible questions, that is how things works nowadays. With respect, most of what you've said is entirely incorrect. As for small cases with wheels....aarrrggghhh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted September 18, 2022 Report Share Posted September 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Athy said: With respect, most of what you've said is entirely incorrect. As for small cases with wheels....aarrrggghhh! You'll be accused of bullying - be careful or the mods will get you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyG Posted September 18, 2022 Report Share Posted September 18, 2022 If you know the answer don't ask the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted September 18, 2022 Report Share Posted September 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, LadyG said: If you know the answer don't ask the question. Eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted September 18, 2022 Report Share Posted September 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Athy said: Eh? LadyG answered your question and you responded with "With respect, most of what you've said is entirely incorrect", thereby illustrating you must already know the answers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted September 18, 2022 Report Share Posted September 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, MtB said: LadyG answered your question and you responded with "With respect, most of what you've said is entirely incorrect", thereby illustrating you must already know the answers. But I didn't know when I asked the question, otherwise I obviously would not have asked it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onewheeler Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 On 13/09/2022 at 14:32, Loddon said: On a serious note. Ecoal https://www.homefire.co.uk/ecoal50.html Used to be called Ecoal 50 made from a percentage of olive stones. Think they had to drop the 50 as it was shown it wasn't 50% olive stones. Burns long and hot Heat logs do what they say, however even a sniff if damp and they revert to their component parts...........Sawdust🤭 I had a bag of that olive stone stuff. It seemed in my experience not to burn for long, but it lit very easily (I ended up using it as kindling) and smelt quite pleasant (although not everyone agreed). I've not seen it in my usual merchants for a couple of years or more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUMPY Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 5 hours ago, Onewheeler said: I had a bag of that olive stone stuff. It seemed in my experience not to burn for long, but it lit very easily (I ended up using it as kindling) and smelt quite pleasant (although not everyone agreed). I've not seen it in my usual merchants for a couple of years or more. Stays in overnight in my stove. Still available from Wickes and various other places. They have dropped the 50 and is now just Ecoal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewan123 Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) We use the Homefire Heatlogs mainly, used to use 'Hardwood Briquettes' when that's what the nearest fuel boat supplied. I like the heatlogs - should be more eco friendly than any coal variation, more energy dense than wood and take up less storage space (than wood). They do burn faster and take a bit more watching than coal, but we don't keep the fire in overnight anyway (due to noisy radiator circulation pump by our heads). We got them from Wickes last year, easy delivery to anywhere we were located, though the price has gone from 3 packs for £15 last winter to 3 for £25! Need to shop around a bit I think... Edited September 22, 2022 by Ewan123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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