Fire bricks

[Sanddancer]

I've just replaced my stove with another identical one, it has no fire bricks and when I asked they say it has baffle plates and does not need any.

Is this correct as I've always used them.

[PD1964]

May depend on fire make but all the one’s I seen have had some form of fire brick. Just Google your type of fire with the word “firebrick” and if it needs them they will show.

 Who is the manufacturer and model of the fire?

Edited October 9, 2021 by PD1964

[Tony Brooks]

AIUI burning wood does not need fire bricks, but when burning solid fuel it does. I don't think the baffle plates has anything to do with it, unless they are sacrificial plates around the inside of the stove carcase.

 

Is this yet another case of a sales person giving duff information?

[Tonka]

Stoves with back boilers do not have firebrick's

[TheBiscuits]

Just now, Tonka said:

Stoves with back boilers do not have firebrick's

 Mine does.  It's one of those very rare Morso Squirrels ...

[Tonka]

9 minutes ago, TheBiscuits said:

 Mine does.  It's one of those very rare Morso Squirrels ...

Sorry I assumed because my Aarrow stove with backboiler does not have them and the Aarrow stove without backboiler that we used to have them , then all stoves were the same. Thank you for putting me right

[PaulJ]

38 minutes ago, TheBiscuits said:

 Mine does.  It's one of those very rare Morso Squirrels ...

Mine too but its a Wenlock (with backboiler). In fact mine has double firebricks to keep the heat down😀

If I use it as a log burner though the destructions do say to remove grate and firebricks.

 

[Tony Brooks]

57 minutes ago, Tonka said:

Stoves with back boilers do not have firebrick's

 

I think the back boiler buffers the stove carcase from combustion, but I would expect them to have some form of protection at the sides if designed to burn solid fuel.

[Slim]

1 hour ago, TheBiscuits said:

 Mine does.  It's one of those very rare Morso Squirrels ...

So does mine. (Squirrel)

[PD1964]

2 hours ago, Tonka said:

Sorry I assumed because my Aarrow stove with backboiler does not have them and the Aarrow stove without backboiler that we used to have them , then all stoves were the same. Thank you for putting me right

My Aarrow Becton has fire bricks and you just alter the grate pitch for wood/coal, I can see a back boiler stove not needing a rear brick but maybe side bricks. If the OP puts the make/model on it would be easier.

[The Happy Nomad]

The OP posted this in June and suggested the replacement would be the same.

 

Firewarm 4 (which personally I've never heard of)

 

 

[Bee]

Unless you force a lot of air through a coal fire it won't melt the sides but they will not last very long! just look at the firebars or grate in a stove, bent, cracked, broken, then think what that same heat will do to thin cast iron!

[Ianws]

We have a firewarm 4 which has been in use with mainly smokeless fuel for many years. It doesn't have traditional fire bricks. It has thick cast iron bricks at the sides and back with a gap to the actual stove sides. 

[PD1964]

1 hour ago, The Happy Nomad said:

The OP posted this in June and suggested the replacement would be the same.

 

Firewarm 4 (which personally I've never heard of)

 

 

If it is that one a quick user manual search and it has no mention of fire bricks and the fire parts list does not contain any. It does say though if using coal mineral fuel, do not stack higher then the rear burn plate as this could result in damage.

Edited October 9, 2021 by PD1964

[Tony Brooks]

8 minutes ago, Ianws said:

We have a firewarm 4 which has been in use with mainly smokeless fuel for many years. It doesn't have traditional fire bricks. It has thick cast iron bricks at the sides and back with a gap to the actual stove sides. 

Those must be what the chap referred to as baffles, but I could see no mention of them in the parts list for the stove THM linked to. That would make perfect sense as long as they are sacrificial and can be easily replaced..

[Ianws]

This is the inside of our stove. The iron "bricks" are still sound after approx 15 years. 

[Sanddancer]

8 hours ago, The Happy Nomad said:

The OP posted this in June and suggested the replacement would be the same.

 

Firewarm 4 (which personally I've never heard of)

 

 

That's the one talked to manufacture and the did say no need

 

[Ianws]

That's what I have and shown in the picture above. As long as you have the side iron liners with a small gap  between them to the stove sides ( feel round the top of the sides) that's how they are meant to be . And worked fine for me for many years 

[Sanddancer]

20 hours ago, Ianws said:

We have a firewarm 4 which has been in use with mainly smokeless fuel for many years. It doesn't have traditional fire bricks. It has thick cast iron bricks at the sides and back with a gap to the actual stove sides. 

Yes that's correct but in my old one I used fire bricks the new one is nearly the same few changes but no bricks came it

[Sanddancer]

5 minutes ago, Sanddancer said:

Yes that's correct but in my old one I used fire bricks the new one is nearly the same few changes but no bricks came it

 

[Sanddancer]

On 09/10/2021 at 14:56, Ianws said:

This is the inside of our stove. The iron "bricks" are still sound after approx 15 years. 

This

This is just what I wanted to see and hear. Thank you

[Sanddancer]

I've now taken the bricks out to try without hope it works okay.