RCR engine service

[cuthound]

27 minutes ago, WotEver said:

Isn’t the idea of the larger sump that you can go longer between oil changes?

 

Not sure if this applies to boat engines, but when the diesel engines for standby generators are specified for extended running between oil changes, they come with several oil filters and often a REN regulator to keep the oil level in the sump topped up from a lube oil tank.

 

https://www.cumminsfiltration.com/south-pacific/ren-fluid-level-management-products

[WotEver]

26 minutes ago, Keeping Up said:

The manual states the same interval for each size (250 hours)

Thanks. So why would anyone ever want the bigger one?

2 minutes ago, cuthound said:

 

Not sure if this applies to boat engines, but when the diesel engines for standby generators are specified for extended running between oil changes, they come with several oil filters and often a REN regulator to keep the oil level in the sump topped up from a lube oil tank.

 

https://www.cumminsfiltration.com/south-pacific/ren-fluid-level-management-products

Interesting

 

[Flyboy]

2 hours ago, WotEver said:

Isn’t the idea of the larger sump that you can go longer between oil changes?

No, I think the larger sump is fitted for lumpy water boats to ensure you get a constant oil feed when it's rough.

[WotEver]

43 minutes ago, Flyboy said:

No, I think the larger sump is fitted for lumpy water boats to ensure you get a constant oil feed when it's rough.

Ahh, that makes sense

[Keeping Up]

2 hours ago, WotEver said:

Thanks. So why would anyone ever want the bigger one?

Interesting

 

Maybe like me nobody knows about the smaller option until after they've bought the engine

[Flyboy]

11 hours ago, Keeping Up said:

Maybe like me nobody knows about the smaller option until after they've bought the engine

With Barrus Shire engines they have the larger sump as standard, the smaller one is an option as described in their brochure. I expect Beta and other marinisers have a similar arrangment.

[cuthound]

15 hours ago, Flyboy said:

No, I think the larger sump is fitted for lumpy water boats to ensure you get a constant oil feed when it's rough.

 

Surely the Beta base engine is a Kubota more usually fitted to plant equipment such as diggers? Why would they design a larger sump for the odd engine thst is converted for marine use?

[Flyboy]

21 minutes ago, cuthound said:

 

Surely the Beta base engine is a Kubota more usually fitted to plant equipment such as diggers? Why would they design a larger sump for the odd engine thst is converted for marine use?

Yes I think that's correct. I spoke to Barrus about this some years ago and they said that the core engines were supplied with the large sump as standard so they would be suitable for both inland and sea boats.  If  somebody had an inland boat with limited clearance underneath the engine they could have the smaller sump as an option. My Barrus Shire 45 has an oil capacity of 7.4 litres.

[bizzard]

Unless thengines on gimbals I would have thought diggers would need a big sump too.

[WotEver]

3 minutes ago, bizzard said:

Unless thengines on gimbals I would have thought diggers would need a big sump too.

I watched some Spanish workers preparing the ground for a new hotel on the side of a granite valley. I was fascinated at how they moved the diggers around using the arm for stability. On several occasions the machines exceeded a 45 degree angle. If the engines had stalled I think they’d have been jumping out of the cabs in double quick time!

 

Not a great photo but it kinda shows what they achieved. 

[ditchcrawler]

On ‎28‎/‎01‎/‎2019 at 19:07, cuthound said:

 

Not sure if this applies to boat engines, but when the diesel engines for standby generators are specified for extended running between oil changes, they come with several oil filters and often a REN regulator to keep the oil level in the sump topped up from a lube oil tank.

 

https://www.cumminsfiltration.com/south-pacific/ren-fluid-level-management-products

On our unmand platforms we filled them up with 205 lt drums, 6 cylinder normally aspirated Fords

[Lily Rose]

On 28/01/2019 at 11:51, frahkn said:

It can be quite difficult to arrange a service.

 

I have not tried this year but the previous three winters I applied but they were either "full in my area" or could not make a mutually convenient date for a service (and I am fairly flexible as to dates). So although they offer the service, they are not too eager to actually provide it - perhaps it doesn't make them much money after all.

I think before Christmas or after Christmas may make a difference in how easy it is to book. For the last two years they have sent an email out in the Autumn offering a £15(?) discount if you book to have the service done before Christmas. Presumably demand is significantly lower then.

 

Offering services may not make them a lot of money but it helps pay the wages of mechanics who are not getting called out to many breakdowns in the winter months.

 

Edited February 6, 2019 by Lily Rose

[mrsmelly]

On 28/01/2019 at 08:19, Athy said:

Had he said "never seen an SR2", you would have a point.

 

In any case, as they twice successfully serviced our Gardner 2LW (albeit which some help from phone-a-friend on one of those occasions) they shouldn't have any trouble with the much more common SR2. It did amuse me when, on the first occasion, a lad who may recently have started shaving arrived and announced "I'm RCR's vintage engine specialist". I stifled a guffaw but, fair enough, he did the job, and without phoning a friend too.

This reminds me when in a pre op meeting for major surgery a year or so ago I was being told by this youth ( The surgeon ) what was involved. I found myself looking round the room hoping his dad would appear to actualy do it