Antifouling

[Bee]

Watched a programme on telly a few nights ago, a North sea ferry in dry dock for various work, no two pack epoxy, no bitumastic, no shotblasting but lots of anodes and lots of antifouling. Now I realise that its not grinding its way over a load of shopping trolleys but its sitting in salt water and the old antifouling still looked pretty good. I wonder if antifouling might be a good idea. Oh, no overplating either.

[rusty69]

1 minute ago, Bee said:

Now I realise that its not grinding its way over a load of shopping trolleys but its sitting in salt water and the old antifouling still looked pretty good

Probably self-eroding, a bit like my hull

[Alan de Enfield]

17 minutes ago, Bee said:

I wonder if antifouling might be a good idea.

No - stick with bitumen.

The changes of antifouling composition (by making most of the active chemicals illegal) has resulted in antifoul almost becoming ineffective.

New legislation that is due to be introduced means that you cannot apply anti-foul without a licence (meaning DIY is impossible), also, it can only be applied where the yard has full recovery of the old anti-foul and huge safeguards against spillage / splashes of the new anti-foul.

 

The British Coatings Federation, the trade body for paint manufacturers, warned last year that encroaching environmental and health legislation meant that antifouling paints in their current form could become marked for professional use only unless it could be proved that DIY users were using the paints responsibly and safely.

This is due to the incoming Biocidal Product Regulation (BPR), EU-wide legislation that covers the manufacture and sale of products containing bioicides. Although it’s possible that the effect of this on the UK will alter with Brexit, the global nature of the antifouling market makes it unlikely, so here’s the status quo.

Antifouling products have historically been regulated in the UK for many years under the COPR (Control of Pesticides Regulations), which required a dossier to be submitted to the UK Health and Safety Executive (HSE) for approval ahead of going on sale.

However, the Biocidal Product Regulation will require all active ingredients to be re-authorised in the UK. Under these rules, it’s assumed that no PPE is worn and that the user is, essentially, naked when applying the paint – a worst-case scenario, and one that brands antifoulings as extremely toxic.

And not really a scenario to dwell on !!

Edited January 10, 2018 by Alan de Enfield

[ditchcrawler]

Most antifouling is very toxic and erodes into the water

[rusty69]

13 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

The changes of antifouling composition (by making most of the active chemicals illegal) has resulted in antifoul almost becoming ineffective

I gave up antifouling our sailing boat years ago.Todays antifoul is certainly less effective than the antifouls of yester year as is the so called red oxide stuff. 

Edited January 10, 2018 by rusty69

[Naughty Cal]

We only ever get a thin layer of slime on the bottom of our hull which washes off easily enough with a power washer. We could probably get away with no antifouling it but using a blue paint instead 

[mrsmelly]

2 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said:

No - stick with bitumen.

The changes of antifouling composition (by making most of the active chemicals illegal) has resulted in antifoul almost becoming ineffective.

New legislation that is due to be introduced means that you cannot apply anti-foul without a licence (meaning DIY is impossible), also, it can only be applied where the yard has full recovery of the old anti-foul and huge safeguards against spillage / splashes of the new anti-foul.

 

The British Coatings Federation, the trade body for paint manufacturers, warned last year that encroaching environmental and health legislation meant that antifouling paints in their current form could become marked for professional use only unless it could be proved that DIY users were using the paints responsibly and safely.

This is due to the incoming Biocidal Product Regulation (BPR), EU-wide legislation that covers the manufacture and sale of products containing bioicides. Although it’s possible that the effect of this on the UK will alter with Brexit, the global nature of the antifouling market makes it unlikely, so here’s the status quo.

Antifouling products have historically been regulated in the UK for many years under the COPR (Control of Pesticides Regulations), which required a dossier to be submitted to the UK Health and Safety Executive (HSE) for approval ahead of going on sale.

However, the Biocidal Product Regulation will require all active ingredients to be re-authorised in the UK. Under these rules, it’s assumed that no PPE is worn and that the user is, essentially, naked when applying the paint – a worst-case scenario, and one that brands antifoulings as extremely toxic.

And not really a scenario to dwell on !!

 We better stop selling razor blades people might cut themrselves shaving  

[Naughty Cal]

2 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said:

No - stick with bitumen.

The changes of antifouling composition (by making most of the active chemicals illegal) has resulted in antifoul almost becoming ineffective.

New legislation that is due to be introduced means that you cannot apply anti-foul without a licence (meaning DIY is impossible), also, it can only be applied where the yard has full recovery of the old anti-foul and huge safeguards against spillage / splashes of the new anti-foul.

 

The British Coatings Federation, the trade body for paint manufacturers, warned last year that encroaching environmental and health legislation meant that antifouling paints in their current form could become marked for professional use only unless it could be proved that DIY users were using the paints responsibly and safely.

This is due to the incoming Biocidal Product Regulation (BPR), EU-wide legislation that covers the manufacture and sale of products containing bioicides. Although it’s possible that the effect of this on the UK will alter with Brexit, the global nature of the antifouling market makes it unlikely, so here’s the status quo.

Antifouling products have historically been regulated in the UK for many years under the COPR (Control of Pesticides Regulations), which required a dossier to be submitted to the UK Health and Safety Executive (HSE) for approval ahead of going on sale.

However, the Biocidal Product Regulation will require all active ingredients to be re-authorised in the UK. Under these rules, it’s assumed that no PPE is worn and that the user is, essentially, naked when applying the paint – a worst-case scenario, and one that brands antifoulings as extremely toxic.

And not really a scenario to dwell on !!

I wonder where this stupid legislation is coming from 

[rusty69]

14 minutes ago, mrsmelly said:

 We better stop selling razor blades people might cut themrselves shaving  

In the future, all men will have beards,and some of the women too (Mind you some of the Women round here already have them).

[Alan de Enfield]

7 minutes ago, rusty69 said:

In the future, all men will have beards,and some of the women too (Mind you some of the Women round here already have them).

Are you thinking of the Mayor of Bayswater's very pretty daughter ?

[rusty69]

2 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

Are you thinking of the Mayor of Bayswater's very pretty daughter ?

Well, how rude. I thought better of you Mr de Enfield

[Alan de Enfield]

1 minute ago, rusty69 said:

Well, how rude. I thought better of you Mr de Enfield

Apparently she had long hair - 'hung down to the ground'

[Irob]

7 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

Apparently she had long hair - 'hung down to the ground'

I thought that was lady godiva. ....and i always assumed that was the horses tail hanging out the back !!

[Jim Riley]

8 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

Apparently she had long hair - 'hung down to the ground'

From her head or her...... I'd best stop.

[Alan de Enfield]

1 minute ago, Jim Riley said:

From her head or her...... I'd best stop.

You will just have to read the poem.

(I loosely refer to it as a poem)

Edited January 10, 2018 by Alan de Enfield

[Irob]

2 minutes ago, Irob said:

I thought that was lady godiva. ....and i always assumed that was the horses tail hanging out the back !!

Or was it rapunzel ?   Let her hair down so her lover could climb up. Must have brought tears to her eyes !

[ditchcrawler]

9 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

You will just have to read the poem.

(I loosely refer to it as a poem)

I think there was also some discussion on the colour 

[Sea Dog]

2 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said:

Apparently she had long hair - 'hung down to the ground'

Wasn't it her knees? Was it her that loved an Italian?

[Alan de Enfield]

12 minutes ago, Sea Dog said:

Wasn't it her knees ?

You are absolutely correct - it was. (Its a long time ago since we sang it)

12 minutes ago, Sea Dog said:

Was it her that loved an Italian?

She married an Italian with balls like a...........

Edited January 10, 2018 by Alan de Enfield

[Irob]

Wasnt his name Dicky Dido ?  Rapunzle let her hair down to her Ricardo Dido.

He was brother in law to the famous italian racing driver Bensini Gasolino.  Thats what i heard anyway.