meerlaan Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Hello, Ok so I have a leisure GRB6GVK gas cooker (which is new to me) but I cannot seem to get the bottom oven to work! Very annoying ! It has been converted to LPG as it was from a house. There are two ovens and the top smaller oven makes a noise when the gas is coming out so I know it is working even before I light it but I cannot hear anything from the bottom oven (ie no gas coming out?) any suggestions ? Perhaps its something simple but I have had a good look inside and at the back, anyone have any suggestions ?? Any suggestions appreciated I realise it is quite a specific question. Thanks Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starcoaster Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Have you actually tried to light it in case gas is coming out but you can't hear it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon12345 Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 Make sure that the time is set on the clock and it is set to manual. http://downloads.beko.co.uk/bekoupload/manuals/GRB6GV.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty69 Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, meerlaan said: There are two ovens and the top smaller oven makes a noise when the gas is coming out so I know it is working even before I light it but I cannot hear anything from the bottom oven (ie no gas coming out?) any suggestions ? Deleted Edited June 14, 2017 by rusty69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meerlaan Posted June 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 Jon, Thank you so much. What an idiot I feel like !! yes I didn't set the time on the clock :/ it works !!! However the ticker (electric ignition) doesn't go off, anyone know why this might be ? Also cant seem to adjust the gas flow for the bottom oven? as in the manual I tightened a small brass screw to reduce the flow of gas for LPG but doesnt seem to be a screw behind the knob for the oven :? Thanks Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mross Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 Some, old stoves had battery-operated igniters but many were mechanical (Piezo-electric). The mechanical ones made a loud click when you pressed a button. Possibly, the spark plug thingy in the oven is dirty and the voltage is bypassing the air gap. Try cleaning it with a toothbrush and soapy water and then leave it to dry out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dor Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 12 hours ago, meerlaan said: However the ticker (electric ignition) doesn't go off, anyone know why this might be ? Thanks Martin If it is from a house it will probably have a 230V sparker, which may not have been connected up to the supply in the boat as it would require the inverter to be on, unless you have a landline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philjw Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 22 minutes ago, dor said: (electric ignition) doesn't go off, I wonder if the OP means that the spark continues after the burner has lit. I have this issue on the Belling oven on my boat. It uses a 230v supply. My guess is that the thermocouple is not in the flame. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meerlaan Posted June 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 Hi Phil, you are spot on ! sorry for not explaining myself clearly. The bottom oven lights but then the ticker wont stop! not sure what bit to replace / adjust ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philjw Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 I haven't got round to looking at mine yet. I believe that the control will be driven by a thermocouple that produces a voltage when hot - just as the flame failure devices work - and that is the signal to stop the clicking. Just a guess at this stage but maybe it would be possible to bend the thermocouple into the flame or improve the electrical connection. There are some knowledgeable gas bods on here who can help out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Brooks Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 As the 12V igniter box on my cooker looks all but identical to the one on the Alde and I understand the Alde one does something clever re the ionised gas in the flame to know when to turn off things may not be so clear cut. Certainly try cleaning the igniter electrode. With a bit of luck whoever posted that about the Alde will be along to explain more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Tony Brooks said: With a bit of luck whoever posted that about the Alde will be along to explain more. I don't believe he posts here any longer but by the magic of science... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meerlaan Posted August 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Annoyingly I still havent managed to fix this !! Setting the clock means gas comes out first problem solved, I contact Leisure and they recommended a new "Main Oven Spark Ignition plug" (Part number: 268300009) well I just fitting this and it doesnt seem to make a difference. I have uploaded a video to show the issue : https://youtu.be/gGuwyzPuRvs If anyone has any idea I would be very greateful, the spark that is going seems to be on the hobs but these are fine when I use these on their own, but when the oven is lit all the hob igniters click, meaning if I push a knob they light instantly :/ Thanks everyone for any advice. Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 1 minute ago, meerlaan said: I have uploaded a video to show the issue : https://youtu.be/gGuwyzPuRvs Something wrong with that link - no video at the other end of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Brooks Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 When an Alde keeps clicking although the burner is alight it often means that either the igniter is faulty or there is a problem with the flame detector. That is a 12V DC igniter though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllanC Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Looking at the video, the igniter is still sparking in the oven even when the gas is lit. No idea why the hobs should spark at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEngo Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 1 hour ago, AllanC said: Looking at the video, the igniter is still sparking in the oven even when the gas is lit. No idea why the hobs should spark at the same time. Cos it cheaper that way. One sparker lots of switches. If the gas aint on a spark does no harm. If the gas is on it gets lit N Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllanC Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Ok that makes sense. This is just a random thought, but as a work around maybe Martin could light the oven as normal and then light one of the hobs for a few seconds. Just maybe the impulse needed to turn off the igniter will be produced from the burner on the hob. If the clicking stops, turn off the unwanted burner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon12345 Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Basically the cooker uses the flame to complete an electrical circuit to sense when the gas is lit and stop sparking ( Flame rectification ) Leisure where on the right track as an electrode and lead normally fixes this cheaply. You are now onto the possibility of it being the igniter control box which is probably expensive. An earth fault on the appliance or wiring of the boat. The cooker may not be playing nice with the Inverter assuming the cooker is 240vac. Maybe check the plug or spur is wired correctly for starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meerlaan Posted August 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 Hi WotEver, thanks for point our the broken link @AllanC good idea ! I tried lighting everything. All four hobs and even grill all though the spark noise changes slightly it still going off :/ @Jon12345 thanks for your suggestions!! Yes it's 240v running through a Victron multiplus. When you say check the plug what am I looking for, is it worth trying the cooker from my genny (have a Honda eu20i) any tips you have to help isolate the problem would be amazing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllanC Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 Does the sparking ever stop? Does it stop when you turn all the gas burners off or does it continue until you cut the power? Its not something as simple as a sticky igniter button is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meerlaan Posted August 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 Nah it never stops, but it is linked to the oven somehow! because it only doesnt stop when I light the oven. So the oven ignights itself (ie when i push the knob in and turn it, it sparks and lights) this is when the sparking starts! iterestingly if I spark a hob burner using the igniter button it works perfectly and shuts off once it is alight. Hope that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 Makes sense but I don't have any suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Brooks Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 How large is the gap between the spark electrode and the metal of the burner compared with the grill and hob burners? I suspect that f its too large the resistance through the ionised flame may be too great so the igniter can not sense the burner is alight - educated guess, no more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meerlaan Posted August 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 Hi @Tony Brooks I will check this this eve, thanks for your comment. When you say 'spark electrode' do you mean the "Main Oven Spark Ignition plug" which I just changed, just to be clear. Thanks Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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