carlt Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Well it would appear that despite Daniel saying there is a need for lighter moderation at least one of the mods disagrees as they have just removed one of MtB's posts and edited one of mine in a completely innocuous exchange (without the courtesy of an explanation). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodGurl Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Well it would appear that despite Daniel saying there is a need for lighter moderation at least one of the mods disagrees as they have just removed one of MtB's posts and edited one of mine in a completely innocuous exchange (without the courtesy of an explanation). yep i saw that convo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicknorman Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Well it would appear that despite Daniel saying there is a need for lighter moderation at least one of the mods disagrees as they have just removed one of MtB's posts and edited one of mine in a completely innocuous exchange (without the courtesy of an explanation). Yup that's classic. Just a mod edit telltale with no reason given for the edit. How is anyone supposed to know what they (allegedly) did wrong? this happens all the time, mod edits for things that are in no way a breach of the (rather extensive) forum rules, no explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smileypete Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 (edited) I'm sure Dan's a bit busy dealing with the flak at the moment but.... It might help to reassure people somewhat, for him to categorically state he won't sell the forum or advertising for any personal profit. Edited October 19, 2016 by smileypete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Yup that's classic. Just a mod edit telltale with no reason given for the edit. How is anyone supposed to know what they (allegedly) did wrong? this happens all the time, mod edits for things that are in no way a breach of the (rather extensive) forum rules, no explanation. See my new thread. I enquired about the state of moderation on the rugby forum. BoB deleted my enquiry. No breach of forum rules or guidelines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 See my new thread. I enquired about the state of moderation on the rugby forum. BoB deleted my enquiry. No breach of forum rules or guidelines. See your new thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicknorman Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 See my new thread. I enquired about the state of moderation on the rugby forum. BoB deleted my enquiry.No breach of forum rules or guidelines. I've sent you a PM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Marshall Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 I'm sure Dan's a bit busy dealing with the flak at the moment but.... It might help somewhat for him to categorically state he won't sell the forum or advertising for any personal profit. Why? What's the point? No one has suggested such a thing. But of course as soon as he says he won't, someone will say that proves he was thinking of it. I refer you to Warren Beatty, who said he never denied lies told about him as that just encouraged people to think they might be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Marshall Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 I think it has to remain in doubt whether these links actually work, since several people have said they don't exist.And obviously that's a fact (because someone with an axe to grind said it) , and anything that appears to contradict it (such as evidence) isn't. Weird world some live in. You really think one of the mods spent time deleting links from an email just to be unfair to someone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodGurl Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 And obviously that's a fact (because someone with an axe to grind said it) , and anything that appears to contradict it (such as evidence) isn't. Weird world some live in. You really think one of the mods spent time deleting links from an email just to be unfair to someone? no but you (IIRC) have to tick a box to send that email, i have known to be wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 ... wife's name, career summary, property abroad and a photo. Although I've met him before so I know what he looks like! I don't think so. I haven't got any property abroad. So you've got the wrong person. But in any case, I publish my home location on the avatar and I make no secret of my surname. This is not the case with (most of) the moderators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicknorman Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 And obviously that's a fact (because someone with an axe to grind said it) , and anything that appears to contradict it (such as evidence) isn't. Weird world some live in. You really think one of the mods spent time deleting links from an email just to be unfair to someone? Several people with an axe to grind said it, independently. No I don't think any mods have spent time deleting links from emails, but I do consider it quite possible that there is a flaw in the system since it is such a repeating story. Dan is only confident it works because it does so on the test account, and perhaps the test account is not fully representative. Perhaps you have never encountered any IT systems that don't quite do what they are supposed to do, but I have and that's why I've suggested he tries it out on a "real" account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smileypete Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Why? What's the point? No one has suggested such a thing. But of course as soon as he says he won't, someone will say that proves he was thinking of it. You can speak for yourself if you like, but personally I'm happy to take him at his word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul C Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Dan's test (account) example illustrates how it works and the message generated and sent by email, however it requires 1) that the moderator ticks the box to send the email (there is the option to not tick the box); and 2) that the text they enter is meaningful (I believe a meaningless example was posted). Also it relies on the email address associated with an account still being in use and regularly checked, not going into spam, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodGurl Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Dan's test (account) example illustrates how it works and the message generated and sent by email, however it requires 1) that the moderator ticks the box to send the email (there is the option to not tick the box); and 2) that the text they enter is meaningful (I believe a meaningless example was posted). Also it relies on the email address associated with an account still being in use and regularly checked, not going into spam, etc. thanks for that paul i thought i was right but couldnt be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicknorman Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 (edited) Dan's test (account) example illustrates how it works and the message generated and sent by email, however it requires 1) that the moderator ticks the box to send the email (there is the option to not tick the box); and 2) that the text they enter is meaningful (I believe a meaningless example was posted). Also it relies on the email address associated with an account still being in use and regularly checked, not going into spam, etc.So it seems fairly plausible that LC omitted to tick the box (whether intentionally or out of ignorance) when she carried out the mass culling, and this is why there are so many disgruntled ex-members on TB who feel they've been treated unfairly. When you say "a meaningless example was posted", if you are referring to the one I posted: "xxxxx, You have been given a warning by ########## Reason: Other <div class='callout'> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Following a review by the moderation team of the content you have posted, this account is now suspended." Then I'd agree it is meaningless, but it is a real live example of what was sent out to folk permanently banned. Edited October 19, 2016 by nicknorman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshire cat Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 But Dan also said that when people tried to contribute to the forum they would be diverted to a page which wouldexplain why they are banned. The braces may have snapped but the belt is still in place unless you know better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodGurl Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 we now have a robo mod http://www.canalworld.net/forums/index.php?showuser=27492is the permanent or a test account? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Davis Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 we now have a robo mod http://www.canalworld.net/forums/index.php?showuser=27492is the permanent or a test account? Errr??? And carlt is a friend?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlt Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Errr??? And carlt is a friend?? It's always a good idea to have friends on the inside... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicknorman Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Just continuing on the banning email thing, the voices from the other side are saying that some did get a link to click, but when they clicked it they got a "you are not allowed view this" type of message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hounddog Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 ...because they were banned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodGurl Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 ...because they were banned? very possible if you are signed in at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHutch Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 I will certainly look again into the details of what is sent out when members are banned, incase we have overlooked something, and or see if we can improve things. Thanks Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 we now have a robo mod http://www.canalworld.net/forums/index.php?showuser=27492is the permanent or a test account? Looks like they are going with the 'anonymous moderator' idea suggested earlier in the thread. Another forum I am on uses this for potentially 'unpopular' moderation decisions such as thread removals etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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