Alanji Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 One top gate post has completely snapped. Now letting one boat through at a time - on ropes. Lock to be open 900-1500 (1730 today) but a lot of boats are queuing already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoominPapa Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 The chap from CRT just came up the queue, counting boats. They're going to keep going 'till 7.30 tonight, and we're the last one through. There are half a dozen boats behind us who'll have to wait until tomorrow. MP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Dunkley Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 One top gate post has completely snapped. Now letting one boat through at a time - on ropes. Lock to be open 900-1500 (1730 today) but a lot of boats are queuing already. Do you know which post, heel or mitre, at what point on the post the damage is, and which side gate it is ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoominPapa Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 Do you know which post, heel or mitre, at what point on the post the damage is, and which side gate it is ? Offside heel post, just below the collar. MP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 The chap from CRT just came up the queue, counting boats. They're going to keep going 'till 7.30 tonight, and we're the last one through. There are half a dozen boats behind us who'll have to wait until tomorrow. MP. Bugger, that's car or train to the festival for us then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest User Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 The chap from CRT just came up the queue, counting boats. They're going to keep going 'till 7.30 tonight, and we're the last one through. There are half a dozen boats behind us who'll have to wait until tomorrow. MP. I'm helping on the Northampton arm flight - unsurprisingly it was fairly quiet boatwise today. Now that they're letting boats through Buckby at last (yaay!), any idea on numbers coming down the arm tomorrow (just so I know how many Weetabix to have for breakfast)? LCx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keif's mate Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 I know of two cruisers trying to get back on to the Nen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Dunkley Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 Offside heel post, just below the collar. MP. Thanks. It sounds as if it's rotted both sides of the top beam mortice, . . . . and that would take quite a while to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoominPapa Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 Bugger, that's car or train to the festival for us then. Going down is not too bad. We were the last boat through, around 7.30, and there were maybe six boats left in the flight to do tomorrow. It's taking about 30 mins to do one up and one down, so if you set out down the flight before anyone else tomorrow, you might be through around lunchtime. Going up is horrible, the queue at close-of-play tonight was back to bridge 16. Assuming few moored boats not in the queue, that's a couple of days worth, by my estimation. Credit to the CRT guys on the ground, they were doing a sterling job with great good humour, and kept it up until bad light stopped play. The notices state that passage is available 9 am to 3 pm, but they intending to run much later again, as long as there are no problems. MP. I'm helping on the Northampton arm flight - unsurprisingly it was fairly quiet boatwise today. Now that they're letting boats through Buckby at last (yaay!), any idea on numbers coming down the arm tomorrow (just so I know how many Weetabix to have for breakfast)? LCx Difficult to tell. I talked to one other boater heading to the festival, and someone from MLCC heading home. Plus there's the Moomins, of course. MP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pykebird Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 We're on our way, but luckily we are coming through from mk, so have missed the stoppage. Glad things are finally moving, hopefully catch up with everyone at some point!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo No2 Posted August 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 Update from CRT: Update on 28/08/2015: Update: The lock assistance opening times have changed to 9am - 5pm every day including the bank holiday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus_GrandUnion Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 Bit of advice please, leaving Gayton Saturday lunchtime, was hoping to go to up the flight for a weeks trip to Warwick and back. What's the queue time like going up/North? Should I scrap my plans and head South? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 About 24 boats waiting to go north, 9 in pound above waiting to go south with many others above .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costalot Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 This attached photo may give a better idea of the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 NBW claims it was bad boating that caused it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 Looks to me like rot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keeping Up Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 Most of what they say on NBW is rot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Dunkley Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 Most of what they say on NBW is rot. Do you mean the extent to which NBW criticizes the way C&RT's neglect is resulting in so many structural failures of gates and paddles, and unscheduled stoppages ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted August 29, 2015 Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 This attached photo may give a better idea of the problem Looks to me like rot. Seems a shame that when they fixed up the other end of the lock a few months back they didn't give thwe whole thing a bit of a look over to see if anything else was about to giveup the ghost. Surely these are things that the much vaunted regular inspections should have identified as likely failures long before they became real ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus_GrandUnion Posted August 29, 2015 Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 Any update on queuing times later this (Saturday) afternoon would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwatch Posted August 29, 2015 Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 Seems a shame that when they fixed up the other end of the lock a few months back they didn't give thwe whole thing a bit of a look over to see if anything else was about to giveup the ghost. Surely these are things that the much vaunted regular inspections should have identified as likely failures long before they became real ones. Absolutely. Preventative maintenance. I saw the rotten balance beam that broke and it had really,really rotted.Is the quality of the lock gates as good as in days gone by. What I mean is, do lock gates last as long now as before. Timber treatments, soaking etc. I seem to remember somewhere that in t'olden days t'navy would float sailing masts in purpose built pounds. As well as floating timber for ship building. That were g'day a when ships were made of wood & and men of steel. Nowadays................? This is just poor maintenance. Has it gone too far, and now too much of an issue to get back on top off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoominPapa Posted August 29, 2015 Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 Absolutely. Preventative maintenance. I saw the rotten balance beam that broke and it had really,really rotted. Is the quality of the lock gates as good as in days gone by. What I mean is, do lock gates last as long now as before. Timber treatments, soaking etc. I seem to remember somewhere that in t'olden days t'navy would float sailing masts in purpose built pounds. As well as floating timber for ship building. That were g'day a when ships were made of wood & and men of steel. Nowadays................? This is just poor maintenance. Has it gone too far, and now too much of an issue to get back on top off? Dunno about longevity, but I did notice that the busted gate had a 1998 plate on it, so it's no spring chicken. MP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwatch Posted August 29, 2015 Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 That's why I asked really. Is seventeen years a long life for a chunk of wood? To my dim but sometimes witty mind, that doesn't seem very long. If this the case, perhaps CRT should survey in depth! the conditions of lock gates and trimmings from about,say, tens years. Does CRT have a chart of sorts that record these things? Or has it all gone 'reactive'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Dunkley Posted August 29, 2015 Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 Absolutely. Preventative maintenance. I saw the rotten balance beam that broke and it had really,really rotted. Is the quality of the lock gates as good as in days gone by. What I mean is, do lock gates last as long now as before. Timber treatments, soaking etc. I seem to remember somewhere that in t'olden days t'navy would float sailing masts in purpose built pounds. As well as floating timber for ship building. That were g'day a when ships were made of wood & and men of steel. Nowadays................? This is just poor maintenance. Has it gone too far, and now too much of an issue to get back on top off? Maintenance, preventative or otherwise, won't stop timber in lockgates from rotting, nor will rot as severe as that happen in a short time. The gate should have been replaced at least 12 months ago, and probably more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwatch Posted August 29, 2015 Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 I agree. Maintenance could entail replacing rotten wooden gates before they fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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