robert anthony Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 Having travelled through central Birmingham a few days ago, I thought that some of the Graffiti that I saw was pretty good and added to the experience. I have to admit that the majority was pretty awful but every now and then a piece stood out. Doe's anyone else like it or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
churchward Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 I have to say I don't like it. There are some rare examples where the "artist" is at least talented but I still think it is an act of vandalism and rather it was not there. I like my model railways and was it was once mentioned to me that I should have (on a modern image layout) some Graffiti but I explained that as it was a model of a parallel universe where only a few things were different there was no Graffiti in that world. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Davis Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 (edited) If you go down to Worcester you will find that some of the canal bridges through the town are currently being painted by a group of street artists, in conjunction with the City Council and CaRT. My daughter is doing one of the bridges in the Arboretum area. https://www.facebook.com/siandavismuralartist https://www.facebook.com/siandavismuralartist/photos/a.449732071775348.1073741825.277464872335403/889201454495072/?type=1&theater Edited August 9, 2015 by Graham Davis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenA Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 If you go down to Worcester you will find that some of the canal bridges through the town are currently being painted by a group of street artists, in conjunction with the City Council and CaRT. My daughter is doing one of the bridges in the Arboretum area. https://www.facebook.com/siandavismuralartist https://www.facebook.com/siandavismuralartist/photos/a.449732071775348.1073741825.277464872335403/889201454495072/?type=1&theater They did some in Kidderminster but then the scrotes vandalised it. then there are these down on the S&W between the junctions. http://mintball.tty.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2014/09/IMG_5364.jpg http://mintball.tty.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2014/09/IMG_5365.jpg http://mintball.tty.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2014/09/IMG_5366.jpg http://mintball.tty.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2014/09/IMG_5367.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROBDEN Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 They did some in Kidderminster but then the scrotes vandalised it. then there are these down on the S&W between the junctions. http://mintball.tty.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2014/09/IMG_5364.jpg http://mintball.tty.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2014/09/IMG_5365.jpg http://mintball.tty.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2014/09/IMG_5366.jpg http://mintball.tty.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2014/09/IMG_5367.jpg Anyone know when these were done? I remember seeing them at least seven years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 It's not something peculiar to the UK waterways either, this is the Canal Latéral de la Garonne not far from Agen, France. If done well it can look OK but generally I think it it detracts from the waterways and like this mess on the T&M near Stoke give an area a bit of a 'foreboding' feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heffalump Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Tagging looks horrible. Like Martin's picture above. but single artistic pieces are quite nice I think. I've also got a soft spot for Pink Floyd's wall, somewhere on the south oxford but I forget where. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pophops Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 To me it's all just vile, meaningless scrawl. I can see no artistic value in any of it. I realise that this is probably due to my age and the values I was bought up with so I fully expect others to disagree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuthound Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 To me it's all just vile, meaningless scrawl. I can see no artistic value in any of it. I realise that this is probably due to my age and the values I was bought up with so I fully expect others to disagree. I agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frangar Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 To me it's all just vile, meaningless scrawl. I can see no artistic value in any of it. I realise that this is probably due to my age and the values I was bought up with so I fully expect others to disagree. Couldn't agree more.....all this "street art" is a load of bo**cks....just says it's ok to scrawl over everything and anything. If you want to draw on a wall that's fine in your own space but don't deface the world for the rest of us. Cheers Gareth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Davis Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 But there is a difference between "street art" and graffiti. Street art is what my daughter does as a business and is officially sanctioned and approved, both in design, materials and quality, whereas graffiti is plain vandalism. The work they are doing in Worcester is to try and stop the vandalism that has occurred under some of the bridges and also to brighten up what otherwise is a drab and not very pleasant towpath. The design she is doing is of buildings in Worcester and she had to submit those designs before she could start. Where "Banksy" fits in I'm not sure, but there are thoughts that some of his stuff is informally approved and it does have some artistic merit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac of Cygnet Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 I don't like graffiti either, but it is largely done by people who think they have no hope of making their mark in any other way. Actually some buildings from the 60s and 70s are so appallingly ugly that they can only be improved by even moderately skilful graffiti. Better if they were knocked down, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frangar Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 (edited) But there is a difference between "street art" and graffiti. Street art is what my daughter does as a business and is officially sanctioned and approved, both in design, materials and quality, whereas graffiti is plain vandalism. The work they are doing in Worcester is to try and stop the vandalism that has occurred under some of the bridges and also to brighten up what otherwise is a drab and not very pleasant towpath. The design she is doing is of buildings in Worcester and she had to submit those designs before she could start. Where "Banksy" fits in I'm not sure, but there are thoughts that some of his stuff is informally approved and it does have some artistic merit. I'm not sure there is much difference really...official or not....if people see "official" art they then think it's ok to draw and spray other anything and everything.....I think the tags you see all over "official artwork" prove this. Just because some arts officer fresh out of school thinks it's a trendy thing to do doesn't make it right in my opinion. Cheers Gareth Edited August 10, 2015 by frangar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert anthony Posted August 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 If you go down to Worcester you will find that some of the canal bridges through the town are currently being painted by a group of street artists, in conjunction with the City Council and CaRT. My daughter is doing one of the bridges in the Arboretum area. https://www.facebook.com/siandavismuralartist https://www.facebook.com/siandavismuralartist/photos/a.449732071775348.1073741825.277464872335403/889201454495072/?type=1&theater I'm going to Worcester in few weeks time so will have a look They did some in Kidderminster but then the scrotes vandalised it. then there are these down on the S&W between the junctions. http://mintball.tty.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2014/09/IMG_5364.jpg http://mintball.tty.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2014/09/IMG_5365.jpg http://mintball.tty.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2014/09/IMG_5366.jpg http://mintball.tty.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2014/09/IMG_5367.jpg I like them, will keep an eye out for them if I go past Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlosMacronius Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 (edited) I'm not sure there is much difference really...official or not....if people see "official" art they then think it's ok to draw and spray other anything and everything.....I think the tags you see all over "official artwork" prove this. I fail to see the link. If its official works of 'street art' that encourage the scribbly tags and other graffiti why then does this graffiti also appear where there are no official artworks? I'd argue the tags you see over the official works would be there regardless of whether the artwork was or not. Most of the time councils use official artworks to get a free lick of paint on a wall or get funding from art grants. Incidentally theres one I quite like in Milton Keynes (I think) its of a very long trrain with all sorts of things in the carriages and wagons. There's also the wall of a substation in Hackney Wick (London) that will never fall down it gets painted so often (with skill though not always to my taste) in the summer it was getting painted over by different people every day. Edited August 10, 2015 by KarlosMacronius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Trackman Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 I don't like graffiti either, but it is largely done by people who think they have no hope of making their mark in any other way.Actually some buildings from the 60s and 70s are so appallingly ugly that they can only be improved by even moderately skilful graffiti. Better if they were knocked down, though. Agree. There's some terribly tatty tin buildings on the canal side coming through Aston locks in Birmingham. Almost anything improves them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henhouse Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 It is criminal damage, pure and simple. The perpetrators should be caught, and made to clean it off, and then punished. To try and justify it as art is a limp wristed, bleeding heart liberal ( small l) idea. Once an area has been vandalised, the problem spreads and becomes bigger, with littering, and fly tipping. The decline will only continue until we return to the days of proper justice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullfrog Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 (edited) Incidentally theres one I quite like in Milton Keynes (I think) its of a very long trrain with all sorts of things in the carriages and wagons. You are talking about Wolverton. I always smile every time I see this, I think its great. It still gets vandalised by the local taggers and scrotes but the more public spirited locals, including some business people keep it refurbed as you can see here:- Edited August 10, 2015 by Bullfrog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bag 'o' bones Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Its difficult to pin down what differentiates 'artistic' graffiti from plain vandalism. To state that all graffiti is meaningless crap is a bit unfair. Take Banksy for example - probably the most well known - can you honestly describe his work as valueless? My favourite: https://www.flickr.com/photos/dullhunk/14381108216 Having said that Banksy is the exception rather than the norm. Most street 'art' lacks exactly that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer2911 Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 The Tidal Trent guide would have to be re - written if the graffiti on one of the bridges over the river was cleaned up. The guide indicates which arch to navigate through by referring to the graffiti above it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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