W+T Posted October 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 Your proposed anchor will be a bit big on the bow of you boat! Just what i researched Rach, well 7kg is recommended but that bit more is better, i will using a Bruce or plough type plus another type which is undecided. Maybe drop the size to 7kg ? Now then for the updates on this weekends work. As aid i have two weeks off to get dome what i can, i have a list of the bits i want done before i stat to wire and line it out. Near Finished * Finished ** 1 Paint canopy ** 2 Finish screens frames * 3 Fit Bow rail ** 4 Fit Hand rails 5 Fit rubbing strake ** 6 Fit lockers and bilge hatch trim * 7 Make Anchor/chain looker 8 raise the canopy by 25mm/1inch I removed the canopy and painted it in the workshop as rain has been on and off, Good temps including over night and no dew point inside so managed that easy , shame i can get the boat in the workshop. twp coats of primer and two topcoat. You get the idea, it is white now, i have lost pictures some how, bit of a strange things i have lost them on my phone and laptop, last nogth my phone turned off and the laptop just turned off and i lost my screen saver and a few things....pictures aswell maybe. Anyhow When i measured up materials for the top screen frames i got it all wrong by 50% short. I thought the materials were cheap for them. I had to go back to get more hockey stick profile and now i had to reorder more Neoprene seal,should be here in a few days. I got on with what was needed to be done like clean the frames up and test one screen to see if the seals i have done work and they sealed a treat after a few down pours over night. As you can see i have used plastic windows, easy to drill, fast speed and a slow feed, this way it softens the plastic and cuts easy with less chance of cracking.Also you can drill within MM of the edge Neoprene i used is 30mmx1.5mm reason is that i had 1mm spare once the window sat in the frame, i stuck down a neoprene strip dwon and the frame as you can see and one on the window aperture, once the neoprene compresses down it gives a darn good seal. Yes all frames are polished up to match the main windows, wish will need a quiclk going over again soon as i got paint and resin on them when i was faffing with the other jobs. This is a quick look ate the frames half fitted, infact this is before i removed them to polish and also make the other two. I have been pulling my hair out, what there is anyhow, i am not the best at getting angles set nice, but i am chuffed with the screens after i sussed an idea to do that. Now the locker frames.....OMG these took me ages to do, thnk it was with the Z section and only having an angle grinder to cut them with, i was at points chucking my tools. All done though in the end Sealed down with Sikaflex marine and SS screws. The ally frame is Z profile 22x32x22....i think lol. I wanted less upright than the 32mm but unable to find any. I will add some hardwood strip or rubber to lift the lid level to the top edge. By eck i have been busy, seeing now what i have done in a few days. Bow rail, I had the help of T to do this, just not possible on my own. I used M8x50mm SS button heads to bolt them in with SS washers and nylocs. I have lost the pics of when i needed to trim the gunnel side as this was ruff cut from the mould and protruding below the strake which looked a mess.So they had to be fitted, marked and then removed, incase i caught the strake with the grinder when cutting back. Strake took some bending but all went well and no creaking or cracks in the Sapele. Sealed around the bolt with Sikaflex Marine again. Bow rial fitted to , this had to be done as water was leaking in the bow with the drill hole i dod a few week back I forgot to cover them with gaffer. You may well be thing about the gap in the strake on the bow point, it would of some doing to bend the strake around that, even with making a steamer, i did think of it but then i will be making a SS point to wrap around it with the bow roller to bolt down on. Thats about it for now, From the list above of jobs before line out, well, all i want to do is fit the rails then i will start to line out while i am waiting for more neoprene to arrive so i can fit the screen windows. and then the canopy can go back on. I mentioned i want to raise the height of the canopy, this is due to the screen frames being to close to the edge of the canopy, I wanted to use Z profile as with the ocker lids, as aid i couldnt find any small enough which would of looked ok. That is it for pics, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 I would add a stainless crash pad for the anchor. Lost count of the times Liam has had to repair our anchor well as it rarely comes up the right way round and has a habit of spearing the gel coat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W+T Posted October 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 I would add a stainless crash pad for the anchor. Lost count of the times Liam has had to repair our anchor well as it rarely comes up the right way round and has a habit of spearing the gel coat! Some body gave me the idea of adding one where the bow repair is, but its the thought of shaping a sheet of SS around the bow, if i can do it well i could make it from just above the water line to the top. I could shape a sheet of 1.6mm SS maybe, then again 1mm should do the trick. And sat here pondering, like i do about the darn boat, i have yet to fit the cleats and get a mooring bollard. So many things to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 You can buy them off the shelf but they are expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W+T Posted October 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Todays update of a few fiddly bits before i make the anchor locker, first was to fit the hand rails. Easy job, along with painting the top screen so we can fit the windows tomorrow and get the canopy back on permanent. I will get pics again when i fit the canopy and windows tomorrow but for now these are the grab handles i made while practicing my welding, Last week when i started to do the screen windows i didnt like how the top of the screen was so close to the canopy, picky i know but its just me, well T says i am a faffer, but i have to like it. What i did was make this frame from Sapele to lift the canopy 25mm, looks good and gives a nice bit of woodwork to the canopy from the inside, you cant see it much from the outside. A few brackets fro ally were made aswell to lnk them together, although no need for them really but it all helps........something. They just sit on the screen top in between the screen and canopy. This was the sketch of the locker and set out but it has changed a little as of a while ago. The locker will be a more diamond shape, no bollard and the fairleads will be now cleats for mooring up. In the locker there will be a large cleat to tie the anchor line to and a standard roller. more basic and less rope work. Again i was hoping i had finished with grinding back, not now so i popped off to Machine Mart for some bits, Carbide grinding discs, great for getting back to the matting to laminate to, new goggles and dust decent dust mask, a few times i used the throw away masks but they are near useless on this job. I marked out and 4 inch more the locker and ground back, also around the repair i did, this will beef up the repair more as in the firsst place i didnt do the best job for strength. This should do the trick now. All done and once cleaned out ready for the layup. i will be keeping the foam in place but the rear side will be 18mm marine plywood for good strength for the anchor. Now this is clean towards what you get when you use a flap disc or normal grinder. This is what come dust is...well not dust but more fibers. lot easier to clean up. Thats about it for now, tomorrow i will be fitting the window and canopy, and finishing the locker a bit more while it is nice, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshire cat Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 You never cease to amaze me. After you've finished this job I believe they are looking for someone to renovate the Houses of Parliament. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-B Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 I came into this thread very late , but would like to say " Top bloody Effort " to you and T ' I will follow the rest with interest Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W+T Posted October 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 You never cease to amaze me. After you've finished this job I believe they are looking for someone to renovate the Houses of Parliament. Dont do politics lol. I came into this thread very late , but would like to say " Top bloody Effort " to you and T ' I will follow the rest with interest Chris Now now, you need read from the start You know i will be glad when this boat is done, it has taken over my life. Cant watch a film without thinking what goes where, what to do next tomorrow. I awake thinking of what needs doing. You know i still luv it though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-B Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Oh yes I did start at page 1 Poured a beer and enjoyed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W+T Posted October 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Oh yes I did start at page 1 Poured a beer and enjoyed tu tut, beer, reads better with Cider lol. loopy juice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-B Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Yeah but cider does strang things to mi head like buying boats and engines and stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 You won't regret making an anchor locker. We have all sorts of shit useful cruising equipment stored in ours. We have a couple of shelves in ours, one either side with the chain running down between them and the electric winch behind. Great for storing mooring pins, hammers, spare props, spare fenders, fishing gear, boat washing gear etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W+T Posted October 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Yeah but cider does strang things to mi head like buying boats and engines and stuff How do think i got this boat lol. You won't regret making an anchor locker. We have all sorts of shit useful cruising equipment stored in ours. We have a couple of shelves in ours, one either side with the chain running down between them and the electric winch behind. Great for storing mooring pins, hammers, spare props, spare fenders, fishing gear, boat washing gear etc. Not sure yet if it will be big enough for a lot of extras, a few bits n bobs maybe. I have no pics of todays efforts as i was to busy faffing cutting back 60 M5 bolts to fit the screens windows, i got the wrong size when i ordered them. two windows fitted and half the anchor ocker laminated, that is all i got done today. Not good, where does time go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W+T Posted October 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 I have had a real pain in the *** of a weekend. I didnt plan to get the anchor locker all done but with things not going....again to plan i am behind a weee bit. Some thing to do with buying the wrong size bolts for the screen.Saying that though i am very happy with the finished canopy. But for 3 bolts i cut down to short and canopy hand rails need bolting down it is done.How the weekend went. First was to start the locker.All i did was use a few strips of 650 combo matt to hold the sides inplace. image: https://s5.postimg.org/ve72mjbgn/20161022_141146.jpg Add two 650 combo inside, just makes it easier to do than laminating through the hatch. image: https://s5.postimg.org/dcnxoqhfr/20161022_141151.jpg Here i drilled up from the corners of the locker so i can see where to mark out for cutting the hatch from the outside. image: https://s5.postimg.org/5l2mcfnwn/20161021_104604.jpg Then laminate once the 18mm marine ply back is held in place, i just drilled a few holes the it so i push nails through into the foam. image: https://s5.postimg.org/fv9mpf35z/20161022_141848.jpg Then three laminations all over. this should give a rough 6mm thickness. I will be adding two more though, i want it strong as the anchor rode will be cleated off this. image: https://s5.postimg.org/xml93vikn/20161022_150336.jpg That is afar as i got with it, near done from the inside and i will be marking out the hatch for cutting out. Neoprene strip on the aperture image: https://s5.postimg.org/8t2ibqksn/20161021_123342.jpg image: https://s5.postimg.org/iew2s1byf/20161021_123953.jpg Also on the frames image: https://s5.postimg.org/43kubvao7/20161017_121151_1.jpg Then all was is a matter of cutting back the sixty 45mm screws i had got down to 20-22mm, not good but time time consuming and when i want a job done i just tend to moan and get it done lol.Inside the canopy i used dome nuts to finish a bit better than nylocs. I am thinking i need some ally or wood strip to go around the inner frame yet. Good for now though. The end result image: https://s5.postimg.org/oz3gc4fd3/20161022_134609.jpg image: https://s5.postimg.org/6v0frhhon/20161022_134604.jpg image: https://s5.postimg.org/9dqq5wssn/20161022_140807.jpg As said rails need bolting but i have ran out now. And just got an order delivered with a load of new counter sunk strake and deck wares bolts. image: https://s5.postimg.org/f6w6sqf2f/20161022_135044.jpg image: https://s5.postimg.org/t4iybs2iv/20161022_135533.jpg image: https://s5.postimg.org/papi2ml6v/20161022_135541.jpg And last good pic of overall view.............yep i am chuffed and feel good that it is all done on the out side but for a few little bits like grab handles etc image: https://s5.postimg.org/zfjkegedj/20161022_135224.jpg Hope you like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Marvellous work 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuthound Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Looking good Wol. I can't wait to see what wonders you perform on the inside! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshire cat Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 It's looking great. Definitely a one off but done by a guy with talent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W+T Posted October 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 Todays task was finishing the locker and fitting new strake bolts which i dont know why i didnt stay with them in the first place, hey but then all dont go as it should first off. Ilaminated the inner face of the locker with four 650 grm combo matt and the inside the same so this should be good and strong for the extra bow strength and good fo the anchor rode to tie to, where the cleat will be going i will be adding a few more laminations on top of a 150x150x18mm then on top a 125x125x18 marine ply pads with 3mm stainless backing pad inside the cabin..I did forget to add more laminations on the inside below the locker to beef that area up incase of impact, infact i am glad i did as it is very thin towards the rest of the boat there . I still need to drill drain hole/s and smooth out a bit but still all done.The opening is large enough for a good size anchor so a 7-10kg will be fine in there with room to spare. image: https://s5.postimg.org/qv40si8cn/20161023_114401.jpg image: https://s5.postimg.org/4yhhs4v5z/20161023_160048.jpg This is the rear side where the cleat rode will be bolted to, at the top below the strengthening batten i added some time ago. image: https://s5.postimg.org/4n4mt443r/20161023_160059.jpg Next job is the locker lid, that is tonight`s job while watching a film and sleeping, to design how i want it, i will use the cutout though for ease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 She is looking good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W+T Posted October 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 Getting there Rach, these little bits to do now, they dont half take time Had a good day today, with cutting angles again that is, not much good as said before but they come out ok on the rear deck hatch. I made it a little bigger than the last one i made, not mcuh though just easier to get under incase....hey you never know.I used the same Z profile as the locker seats had. I need to cut down the hatch but for now i sealed all the edges with resin and two more coats to go. I have ordered more Sikaflex Marine to seal it more, should be in a day or so. image: https://s5.postimg.org/ykf3sttxj/20161024_130538.jpg Good part of having the hatch open now i can get the deck drains in, every time it rains i have had to mp all the water out and thats about 30-40l.I had to cut down enough so there is enough thread underneath to get the comp washer tight. 12mm did the trick. These were as the rest of the wood and sealed with resin again and then on these areas some 2pk epoxy glue. image: https://s5.postimg.org/tn1j7pryf/20161024_134432.jpg Not yet decided if these to ( one either rear corner of the deck ) will drain out the side or join in the middle and drain in the engine well, i need to see how low the outlet is. Now then, i was pushing my luck i think here, i got these fender eyes ages ago, last year i think as i just love the solid sturdy look of them. I will be fitting four down each side but one will be on the bend of the bow. MMMmmm the eye is 15mm deep and is a lot to protrude from the strake. image: https://s5.postimg.org/k3rue94g7/20161024_153618.jpg All i can do to fit these is recess them into the strake, which is 20mm thick. Yep that gives 15mm to cut out and just 5mm left. Eeee i am good at matchs lol.Hey what can go wrong.................Here is what i did first, i drilled a hole for a bolt to hold the strake back on the weak spot which will be left when the exess is cut out. image: https://s5.postimg.org/glfuhv3k7/20161024_154521.jpg This SS M5 counter sunk bolt goes all the way through to the hull and the strake does so all held tight until i get the fender eye bolted in, infact it will stay in so in all four M5 bolts will be holding the strake down.Then i just cut away wating to be smacked in the mush by a batten of Sapele lol. image: https://s5.postimg.org/9w9b1ui87/20161024_160127.jpg image: https://s5.postimg.org/6qtapdozr/20161024_160346.jpg Here once i chipped away you can see the bolt i used. image: https://s5.postimg.org/uwur90wcn/20161024_165300.jpg image: https://s5.postimg.org/5fccpfemf/20161024_165306.jpg One down 7 to go, i mite round the outer corner yet a wee bit, just to make it...i dont know. i just faff to much. image: https://s5.postimg.org/mtwkxpbrb/20161024_171458.jpg image: https://s5.postimg.org/kufz6ahfr/20161024_172628.jpg Tomorrows job is to seal the timbers a bit more and then finish these eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-B Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 you flash bastid.......;-) ' ' ok ' ' I fess up .. . . just impressed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 They are chunky fenders eyes! Do you really need 4 fenders down each side? We find 3 adequate. One right at the stern, one where the bow starts to curve around and one in the middle of the other two. Don't see the point in fenders any further forward then where the bow starts to curve in as they don't do anything other then bang around in the wind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W+T Posted October 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 you flash bastid.......;-) ' ' ok ' ' I fess up .. . . just impressed I really want a gin palace lol. They are chunky fenders eyes! Do you really need 4 fenders down each side? We find 3 adequate. One right at the stern, one where the bow starts to curve around and one in the middle of the other two. Don't see the point in fenders any further forward then where the bow starts to curve in as they don't do anything other then bang around in the wind. Never have enough fenders, they are there if needed,its one of them ` best to be there and not needed than not be there and need them`, and on canals they are, And o harm in the extra one either side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 (edited) I really want a gin palace lol. Never have enough fenders, they are there if needed,its one of them ` best to be there and not needed than not be there and need them`, and on canals they are, And o harm in the extra one either side. Trouble is the boats festooned with fenders still have many scratches in the hull as they are never where they are needed. We have found having less focuses the mind and makes you get it right ETA: Another thought, have you bought your cleats yet? If you haven't make sure you get ones that are big enough. The little slim ones might look nice and neat but by the time you have secured your rope to them there is no room left to tie off when mooring up. US boats in particular have very poor cleats and are a pain in the rear to raft up too as the cleats are so small. Edited October 25, 2016 by Naughty Cal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W+T Posted October 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 I have some cleats but are small`ish at 150mm, i am thinking on getting a set of 200mm, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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