Martin Megson Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 Is there any standard to the coal brands? I recently bought a few bags of Supertherm from a marina and it was absolutely rubbish. Difficult to light, not much heat and massive amounts of orange ash. Then bought a couple of bags of Excel, first time I've tried it and when I opened it the coal was damp with quite a few wet leaves in it. Called into another marina a couple of days ago and all they had was Excel. Said I didn't want it as it was rubbish. They were surprised and offered to open a bag. Looked completely different to the bags I had before so I took it and it burns great with very little ash. I've not had a problem until this month but it seems that not all coal does what it says on the bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deckhand Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 we only use Supertherm and I know that there has been threads on here before about this issue. The red/orange ash is brick dust. We too have had the odd bag (we only use one supplier though) that is rubbish. I have noticed that this latest bag we have, the coal nuts are a different shape than usual but has been burning quite hot. I do find that the bags with the orange/red dust doesnt burn or produce much heat but at £12.00 plus a bag, its not funny to open one that doesnt produce the heat you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmelly Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 We use home fire. Its usualy spot on but ocasionaly a bad batch appears it seems its the same with all kinds. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzard Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 All these coals are usually stored in open air staithes, ''It always has been'', therefore it all gets wet when it rains. If the merchant is doing a weighing and bagging session when the coal is wet it'll remain wet wunce the bags are sealed. Leaves and twigs in the coal bags mean that the staithe was almost empty and the front loader machine just scrapes along and picks up everything and dumps it on the conveyor to the weighing and bagging area. If wet spread it out in the open air before using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete & Helen Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Used to use SuperTherm but found it was inconsistent and produced lots of ash so didn't stay in well. using PureGlow now but still find variances in the bags. It has been reported that the bonding agent wasn't doing its job and so nuggets were breaking up more than usual. Many a time bags are found to have wet coal n them, be it because its stored in th open and the damaged bag lets rain in or the coal was wet when bagged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzard Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Used to use SuperTherm but found it was inconsistent and produced lots of ash so didn't stay in well. using PureGlow now but still find variances in the bags. It has been reported that the bonding agent wasn't doing its job and so nuggets were breaking up more than usual. Many a time bags are found to have wet coal n them, be it because its stored in th open and the damaged bag lets rain in or the coal was wet when bagged Almost certainly wet when bagged especially if bagged in the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loubyscooby Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 I had been using Supertherm for the last 3 years but changed to Excel a few months ago due to excessive ash... Now it's briliant, hot coals with little ash. My mates have also done the same and there's an added bonus as its cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearley Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 We have been using Excel most of this season, bought from several different suppliers as we cruise. We have had some wet bags but that may be due to storage on the roof and tears in the bags. All of it seem the same good quality. Our last purchase was Winterblaze. The only alternative was Supertherm which we didn't like last time we used it. The Winterblaze is not smokeless but stays in well and gives a lot of heat when the stove is opened up. Much more ash than Excel though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0atman Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 I prefer excel but at the moment I am using Stoveglow £11:50 25kg very low ash and burns well Some bags have some larger nuggets in and last one has had scraps of coal mixed in . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Megson Posted March 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Thanks for the comments. Looks like I've just got a couple of bags that were filled from the bottom of the heap. I normally use stoveglow but the last couple of stops didn't supply it. I'm liking the latest bags of Excel which seems to burn quite hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canals are us? Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 I have burnt mostly wildfire which isn't smokeless but I find it very good and quite cheap at £9.50 for a 25kg bag. I have occasionally bought the 3 for 2 offer at £15 from B&Q for home fire when I don't want to go on a 15 mile round trip to go to the coal merchant. Found the home fire good. Tried a bag of excel, didn't like it as much as wildfire or home fire. James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glynn Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 We use, Exel Pureheat and tried Supertherm. Supertherm left lots of ash Exel is good Pureheat is always good imo Pureheat wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
churchward Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 We normally use either Newheat or Excel at home or on the boat. They are basically the same but the ovoids are larger with newheat (100g) than Excel (75g) If you want to look at what types are available have a look at this site. http://www.coalmerchantsfederation.co.uk/products/smokeless-ovoids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzard Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 I'd ovoid some of those. I use Multi-heat in my boatman, not too hot, I don't like it hot. The stove is a Boatman about 15 years old, all original including the grate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scholar Gypsy Posted March 10, 2015 Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 I'm using Phurnacite at the moment, also mentioned in the helpful website posted by Churchward. It is performing excellently. The last fire was lit using only 1/3rd of a firelighter, and unusually for me did not go out overnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearley Posted March 10, 2015 Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 Interesting that Churchwards link states that Excel is suitable for open fires only yet a lot of us prefer it for our closed room heaters/multi fuel stoves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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