First day and already I have called RCR

[jim and pat dalton]

Bummocks!!

 

We've been on our (new to us) boat since the weekend at Great Haywood marina, getting settled down and sorting out a few electrical problems.

 

(I should add we have driven the boat three times across the marina with no problems)

 

Today we went to take the boat to fill her up with fuel and have a pump out and then set off for our very first journey to the Fens but:

 

1/2 way across the marina the prop stopped. absoutely nothing forward or reverse. Button is in and we have pulled and pushed it back in a few times.

 

We drifted across the marina in the wind until we could stop and tied up and have now polled to a suitable place whilst we await RCR (silver) called them about 1 hr ago, nice lady Sarah, said he will be here shortly

 

Marina and other staff and a few residents very helpful btw.

 

Gearbox has oil a plenty and I cant figure out what else would be wrong esap so suddenly, as it has been working no probs up to now

 

We are complete novices btw but we are learning loads!!!

 

Any ideas what may be the cause???

 

Jim

PS: thank goodness it went now and not on the Nene

[richardf]

Has the cable broken?

You should be able to see something move on the gearbox as forward and reverse is selected?

[churchward]

Has the cable broken?

You should be able to see something move on the gearbox as forward and reverse is selected?

That was my first thought but in my experience when a cable goes normally the box will stay in gear and does not spring back to neutral. I guess it depends on the gearbox and the type of control possibly but I still think it would stay in gear.

 

I had this issue going into a lock once I went to select neutral then reverse but nothing happened and forward thrust was maintained. I had to quickly open the engine hatch and pull the gearbox lever back to the neutral position manually. Still managed to nudge the gates though.

[nicknorman]

If it stopped whilst it was in gear, not whilst you were changing gear, I doubt it would be the cable. It could be a gearbox failure but that seems unlikely to happen suddenly especially if there is adequate oil in it. Perhaps it is something basic like the nut come off the propellor (have you checked that the propellor is still there? - look through the weed hatch) or possibly some bolts in the connections to the drive shaft and whatever couplings you have. Can you see whether the prop shaft is actually turning by lifting the engine boards?

 

Also - daft point but you are sure its not just a massive plastic bag etc on the prop?

Edited April 17, 2013 by nicknorman

[MtB]

How do you know the prop stopped turning? Can you see the propshaft stationary with the gear selector in AHEAD position and the engine running?

 

If so, this sounds like a drive plate failure to me. Gearboxes rarely totally fail just like that.

 

If the proshaft IS turning, then your prop has fallen off or the woodruffe key sheared.

 

 

MtB

[jim and pat dalton]

Wow thanks for fast replies, I did see that the cable was working ok

 

Two very polite gentlemen from RCR have just arrived and after a few nervous remarks from me about hoping this wouldn't be an embarrasing oversight on my part.

 

They had a little look round and took out dipstick turned the engine over and said "yep driveplate has gone" I asked how they could tell and they said look down the hole and as you can see the gears and they are not moving (thats a good tip!).

 

They have started working on the replacement (its going to cost me my £50 excess) and hopefully we will get going on this adventure later today and make say Fradley tonight

 

What a fantastic service Missus has gone off to get them some choccy biscuits, ive got the kettle on!

 

and thanks for your replies

 

Jim

Edited April 17, 2013 by jim and pat dalton

[bizzard]

Wow thanks for fast replies, I did see that the cable was working ok

 

Two very polite gentlemen from RCR have just arrived and after a few nervous remarks from me about hoping this wouldn't be an embarrasing oversight on my part.

 

They had a little look round and took out dipstick turned the engine over and said "yep driveplate has gone" I asked how they could tell and they said look down the hole and as you can see the gears and they are not moving (thats a good tip!).

 

They have started working on the replacement (its going to cost me my £50 excess) and hopefully we will get going on this adventure later today and make say Fradley tonight

 

What a fantastic service Missus has gone off to get them some choccy biscuits, ive got the kettle on!

 

and thanks for your replies

 

Jim

To prolong the life of your new driveplate always when changing from ahead to astern gear or visa versa pause in the neutral gear position whilst the engine revs drop to idle before making the change especially if your gearbox is a mechanical box and not hydraulic change one..

[nicknorman]

So gold star for MtB!

[jim and pat dalton]

yes well done MtB and thanks for the advice bizzard, it is a hydralic one and I shall remember to pause

[lydfordcastle]

yes well done MtB and thanks for the advice bizzard, it is a hydralic one and I shall remember to pause

Glad you're sorted but it's not a hyraulic one, it's an hydraulic one. Pedantic pillock aren't I?

[jim and pat dalton]

:-)

[nicknorman]

Glad you're sorted but it's not a hyraulic one, it's an hydraulic one. Pedantic pillock aren't I?

Double pedant - either an or a is acceptable before h. Personally I would say a and say the h, rather than pronouncing it eyedraulic like the French!

[Pie Eater]

Better to have happened before you set off than in the middle of nowhere.

 

Steve

[Grace and Favour]

Double pedant - either an or a is acceptable before h. Personally I would say a and say the h, rather than pronouncing it eyedraulic like the French!

Certainly 'a hxxxx' has become more common in spoken English (I believe as a direct influence of our American 'cousins') - but since when have they been regarded as specialists in English ( ).

 

English (as in our current language) has, for at least a couple of hundred years, required that a consonant be placed before the h, and the h being silent - with few, (if any) exceptions (I cannot think of an exception at the moment)

 

However, language does develop (an oft promulgated argument by many that cannot be bothered/never learned it properly in the first place)

[Harpur Hill]

Certainly 'a hxxxx' has become more common in spoken English (I believe as a direct influence of our American 'cousins') - but since when have they been regarded as specialists in English ( ).

 

English (as in our current language) has, for at least a couple of hundred years, required that a consonant be placed before the h, and the h being silent - with few, (if any) exceptions (I cannot think of an exception at the moment)

 

However, language does develop (an oft promulgated argument by many that cannot be bothered/never learned it properly in the first place)

 

Yes, we used to say a norange (cf the Spanish) and a napron, over time this became transmogrified to an orange and an apron. Perhaps one day

 

we shall say a nydraulic.

 

 

Cheers

HH

[luctor et emergo]

<Snip>

English (as in our current language) has, for at least a couple of hundred years, required that a consonant be placed before the h, and the h being silent - with few, (if any) exceptions (I cannot think of an exception at the moment)

Only in Essex.

[Dyertribe]

Certainly 'a hxxxx' has become more common in spoken English (I believe as a direct influence of our American 'cousins') - but since when have they been regarded as specialists in English ( ).

 

English (as in our current language) has, for at least a couple of hundred years, required that a consonant be placed before the h, and the h being silent - with few, (if any) exceptions (I cannot think of an exception at the moment)

 

However, language does develop (an oft promulgated argument by many that cannot be bothered/never learned it properly in the first place)

house?

Hay?

Hatstand?

[lewisericeric]

house?

Hay?

Hatstand?

Have

Haggle

Happy

Help

Heavy

Hurry

 

 

Surely there's a mix up.... "An heavy object"..... "he's an happy boy"

[Grace and Favour]

house?

Hay?

Hatstand?

An house

Some hay

An hatstand

 

 

 

 

Surely there's a mix up.... "An heavy object"..... "he's an happy boy"

yup - correct

[nicknorman]

An house

Some hay

An hatstand

yup - correct

Do we look convinced? (A hint: NO!)

[MtB]

So gold star for MtB!

 

Thank you!

 

And thanks to the OP for introducing a new word to the CWF lexicon:

 

"Bummocks"

 

Brilliant!

 

MtB

[jelunga]

 

Thank you!

 

And thanks to the OP for introducing a new word to the CWF lexicon:

 

"Bummocks"

 

Brilliant!

 

MtB

I believe Ange uses this word. Certainly SWMBO does. I believe it is the femine of Bollocks which would not be appropriate for an lady to use. Edited April 18, 2013 by jelunga

[Arthur Marshall]

I think it depends on whether the h was aspirated in 1632.

[Radiomariner]

Only in Essex.

I think you are close to being correct there 'ector

Dropping the "H" was only common in certain areas of England. Very rare in Scotland, especially the Highlands and Islands where my parents were raised the opening H was emphasised and sometimes an extra "h" shoved in for good measure such as. 'Howhever' instead of 'however' or as Essex boy would say 'owever'.

[MtB]

I believe Ange uses this word. Certainly SWMBO does. I believe it is the femine of Bollocks which would not be appropriate for an lady to use.

 

But the OP is not a female gurl, according to the data in the left margin...