rivergate Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 46 minutes ago, billybobbooth said: depends on the wood under the water. bottoms will be the worst to do as you'll be onto new bottom planks too. depends if water jacket is leaking inside but you can get lots of spares for jp2 mostly aftermarket though to be honest depending what you want inside it can be fairly easy if doing work yourself to a semi high standard but being wood nothing can ever be set in place as it has to come out to do work. ..if its the block you'll struggle - and its thought to be... ..Ive run JP2 in past...some bits easier than others but would think block is tricky.. ....yeah all true on planks....that's why I said a catch up docking needed with all that entails... ..still a great boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrtm Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 I didn't know if the block could be welded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stagedamager Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, billybobbooth said: I didn't know if the block could be welded. Oh it can be welded I'm sure. Tom_c on here is your man. Look at his Kelvin F4 rebuild thread on here. Great work! Anyone needing welding to water cooled heads should give him a shout! Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrtm Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 ill be doing that then as I've got a national one thats needs doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 10 minutes ago, stagedamager said: Oh it can be welded I'm sure. Tom_c on here is your man. Look at his Kelvin F4 rebuild thread on here. Great work! Anyone needing welding to water cooled heads should give him a shout! Dan Tom_c is a truly talented craftsman. I bought a blade from him once and he showed me around his workshop. Full of stuff that's impossible to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rivergate Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 10 hours ago, billybobbooth said: I didn't know if the block could be welded. ..be great if it could ....what kind of cost for that..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrtm Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 dad had his fr2 welded by brinklow a good clean up and a blast with a torch and good welding machine will weld it fairly well. you can go extremes and heat up all the block clean weld re heat then cool but it can last just as long as first way. my national was welded and lasted a long time. be it needs doing again due to me not emptying at winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMModels Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 Is it welding or do they restitch the casting? Have seen that done a few times and it is a real skill to do but so satisfying to see one done well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrtm Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 I'm sure brinklow welded dad's but not 100% sure as I've only seen the engine when in the boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stagedamager Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stagedamager Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 Here's the link to Tom's rebuild for those that haven't seen it. Dan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMModels Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 Wow, that is some rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X Alan W Posted September 23, 2018 Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 On 21/09/2018 at 23:38, stagedamager said: Oh it can be welded I'm sure. Tom_c on here is your man. Look at his Kelvin F4 rebuild thread on here. Great work! Anyone needing welding to water cooled heads should give him a shout! Dan Or there is the specialist "stitch repair" used very successfully on cast iron crack repairs I had the water jacket on the "Seffle repaired (water crack)& when I spoke to the then owner of boat some getting on 40 years later he took some convincing the jacket had ever been repaired 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete harrison Posted September 23, 2018 Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 On 22/09/2018 at 09:48, billybobbooth said: my national was welded and lasted a long time. be it needs doing again due to me not emptying at winter I do love an embarrassing confession, and we all have them. Perhaps this could be the opportunity to put a more appropriate engine into TOWY and allow that National to be repaired properly and go back into a Grand Union motor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted September 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 About as small a bit of an "historic" as you are likely to get the chance to buy....... (Formed from the back end of "River" class Wey)https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/323462302099?ul_noapp=true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Pegg Posted September 23, 2018 Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 21 minutes ago, alan_fincher said: About as small a bit of an "historic" as you are likely to get the chance to buy....... (Formed from the back end of "River" class Wey)https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/323462302099?ul_noapp=true That could make the perfect genuine historic butty to tow behind my modern pleasure boat. JP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrtm Posted September 23, 2018 Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 1 hour ago, pete harrison said: I do love an embarrassing confession, and we all have them. Perhaps this could be the opportunity to put a more appropriate engine into TOWY and allow that National to be repaired properly and go back into a Grand Union motor if you can find me a more appropriate engine thats been in her just as long then ill concider it! unfortunately I cant easly find a k1 for a reasonable price or a bolly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted September 23, 2018 Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 16 minutes ago, billybobbooth said: if you can find me a more appropriate engine thats been in her just as long then ill concider it! unfortunately I cant easly find a k1 for a reasonable price or a bolly. You can have my K1 for £20k. Very reasonable I reckon. (Plus VAT that is.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMModels Posted September 23, 2018 Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 Theres a K2 for £5k surely a K1 is half that https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KELVIN-MARINE-ENGINE-VINTAGE-TAKE-A-L-K/273069249912?hash=item3f94321578:g:ydUAAOxyTjNSgfdW 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted September 23, 2018 Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 Just now, AMModels said: Theres a K2 for £5k surely a K1 is half that https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KELVIN-MARINE-ENGINE-VINTAGE-TAKE-A-L-K/273069249912?hash=item3f94321578:g:ydUAAOxyTjNSgfdW Haha do you really think that is a K2? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stagedamager Posted September 23, 2018 Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 We have a K2 for sale.... Buy one half and we'll bung the second pot in for free..... Might need a slightly bigger engine bed though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMModels Posted September 23, 2018 Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 Lol It was a quick search and the opportunity for a joke Mike, calm down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrtm Posted September 23, 2018 Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, stagedamager said: We have a K2 for sale.... Buy one half and we'll bung the second pot in for free..... Might need a slightly bigger engine bed though.... i don't think I can get a bigger engine bed in her, it already runs the entire cabin up To the rear stank, and is 3 planks deep and 8 inches wide, k2 is too big love the engine but if changed would need to be a big single pot and the biggest single that would fit thats cold start would be a k1. I would prob put a pup in rather than a 15, but as all the engines are 10k it would never be a viable swap due to costs dispite the sell on engine being worth a sim amount. Edited September 23, 2018 by billybobbooth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete harrison Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 On 20/09/2018 at 13:54, pete harrison said: and with its auction starting price now down to £5k https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Converted-wooden-working-boat-Narrowboat/263947836568?hash=item3d74845c98:g:9SwAAOSwfz9bVKnn The first bid is in at £5k, and no it is definitely not me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Tee Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 Bid now retracted, so still looking for a starter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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