steelaway Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 Hi All We have being trying to get winter mooring for a month now, in this area they are few and far between. We had a lunch at a pub today and questioned the landlord. He had no idea of the rules but was quite happy far us to moor there for the winter. What are the rules? Does it become end of garden moorings if the landlord agrees to this? Or is it his prerogative to allow mooring for months as long as you are using his pub? Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casper ghost Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 I'm sure the landlord would agree but BW probably wouldn't... Casp' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 Hi All We have being trying to get winter mooring for a month now, in this area they are few and far between. We had a lunch at a pub today and questioned the landlord. He had no idea of the rules but was quite happy far us to moor there for the winter. What are the rules? Does it become end of garden moorings if the landlord agrees to this? Or is it his prerogative to allow mooring for months as long as you are using his pub? Alex I reckon the official answer will be.. An end of garden mooring requires BW's OK - so that will depend on how quickly they can approve one... and no he can't just approve a mooring if you are using his pub as you will not be making 'a progressive journey around the system' the unofficial answer however... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 Fair play to you!! is it offside or towpath, and are BW offering moorings in the vicinity, if offside, ask the mods to remove this topic quickly Normally the rules for pubs are moor, have a beer and move on moor,have a beer or two,possibly get shafted, stay the night but move on next day. moor, have a banter,find your boat during the night, and maybe stay several days as banter carries on. moor,(in winter) meet a landlord who thinks, good customer... stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cereal tiller Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 Fair play to you!! is it offside or towpath, and are BW offering moorings in the vicinity, if offside, ask the mods to remove this topic quickly Normally the rules for pubs are moor, have a beer and move on moor,have a beer or two,possibly get shafted, stay the night but move on next day. moor, have a banter,find your boat during the night, and maybe stay several days as banter carries on. moor,(in winter) meet a landlord who thinks, good customer... stay. Hope that you do get permission to stay ouside the pub. but,please ,dont wring your liver out in the canal,think of the fishes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty40s Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 and no he can't just approve a mooring if you are using his pub as you will not be making 'a progressive journey around the system' you could be making a progressive journey through his guest list....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magpie patrick Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 Hi All We have being trying to get winter mooring for a month now, in this area they are few and far between. We had a lunch at a pub today and questioned the landlord. He had no idea of the rules but was quite happy far us to moor there for the winter. What are the rules? Does it become end of garden moorings if the landlord agrees to this? Or is it his prerogative to allow mooring for months as long as you are using his pub? Alex Technically he needs BW approval AND it becomes an end of garden mooring if they grant it. However, you are mooring for the winter. BW will be in a fix... If they don't approve it they haven't a snowball in hell's chance of successfully enforcing any infringement before you leave in the spring, and they forego any revenue. The landlord might work this out and let the mooring every winter knowing full well that his tenant will be long gone before BW act If they do approve it the pub landlord is free to let it out again next winter... They can only prosecute the moorer, not the landowner. Heads he wins, tails BW lose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace and Favour Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 If BW question you - - - just say you're progressing, exhaustively, through the cellar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlt Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 If they don't approve it they haven't a snowball in hell's chance of successfully enforcing any infringement before you leave in the spring, Except that one form of enforcement is "You didn't satisfy our requirements for continuous cruising therefore we won't be renewing your licence." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeco Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 Are you allowed to progress backwards and forwards near the pub? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 Are you allowed to progress backwards and forwards near the pub? ah a new way of avoiding the rules pub hopping rather than bridge hopping.... no BTW Why can't folk just stick to the bleedin' rules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casper ghost Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 Why can't folk just stick to the bleedin' rules? £ Casp' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14skipper Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 ah a new way of avoiding the rules pub hopping rather than bridge hopping.... no BTW Why can't folk just stick to the bleedin' rules? Meow Meow 14skipper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 (edited) £ Casp' Possibly for some, not convinced for all that extract the Michael... Meow Meow 14skipper another monumentality mamouth contribution to CWDF from 43plonker.. Edited November 23, 2011 by MJG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 Alex, go for it...a mooring outside a pub for the whole winter? Bliss! Only move if BW move you on, its winter for heavens sake, simples. 14S, dont rise to it. He cant even spell mammoth. Mamouth is so old school. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel carton Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 Pub hopping, now that sounds like fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 Alex, go for it...a mooring outside a pub for the whole winter? Bliss! Only move if BW move you on, its winter for heavens sake, simples. 14S, dont rise to it. He cant even spell mammoth. Mamouth is so old school. Gufaw gufaw... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14skipper Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 another monumentality mamouth contribution to CWDF from 43plonker.. Ah whats the matter "Dogs Breath" Has GD left the forum and no else left to pick on ? At least try and be original in trying to be sarcastic and not copy other postings. 14Skipper 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 That's enough thank you children Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 Ah whats the matter "Dogs Breath" Has GD left the forum and no else left to pick on ? At least try and be original in trying to be sarcastic and not copy other postings. 14Skipper Funny though wasn't it - Thought you'd adopted your polite mode so what's the 'dog breath' reference...oh I get it I have a dog in my avatar...brilliantly original apart from the fact insults based on my avatar have been done before... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelaway Posted November 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 Except that one form of enforcement is "You didn't satisfy our requirements for continuous cruising therefore we won't be renewing your licence." I am between a rock and hard place at the moment. I applied for winter mooring but the only place on the whole of this backwater canal is in a deep and remote ravine and not at all safe, Not even passing traffic, as very few boats ever go up to this very end. There are no services or amenities within 10 lock miles I applied for end of garden moorings at a Sports club that have 3 boats moored, although there is probably room for 5/6 boats and the club would be very happy for the income. BW said only 3 are allowed. I found another perfect place that would also be no harm to any one and suggested this could be a winter mooring, but again they said it is not a designated winter mooring. I am not trying to avoid paying for winter moorings Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 Pub hopping, now that sounds like fun! Indeed - depending on the company you are pub hopping with though eh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlt Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 Sorry Alex I wasn't being judgemental. Personally I think the whole concept of preventing CCers from CCing and then charging them for the inconvenience is wrong. I used to roll up to a stoppage and ask to be allowed through, daily, until the stoppage was lifted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 Sorry Alex I wasn't being judgemental. Personally I think the whole concept of preventing CCers from CCing and then charging them for the inconvenience is wrong. I used to roll up to a stoppage and ask to be allowed through, daily, until the stoppage was lifted. What chance there being a stoppage at the pub near where Alex wants to stop at or near though??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mack Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 Hi All We have being trying to get winter mooring for a month now, in this area they are few and far between. We had a lunch at a pub today and questioned the landlord. He had no idea of the rules but was quite happy far us to moor there for the winter. What are the rules? Does it become end of garden moorings if the landlord agrees to this? Or is it his prerogative to allow mooring for months as long as you are using his pub? Alex Be careful!! A few years ago one of the regulars on another canal list upset the landlord of the Three Horsehoes at Winkwell by having the temerity to tie his boat up to the mooring rings outside the pub, for the purpose of having a couple of pints one evening. The resulting disgreement escalated to the point where he was banned from every pub operated by the pubco (Punch Taverns I think). I seem to recall that the letter banning him is now framed and hangs on the wall over his mantelpiece! David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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