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Mum & dad are looking at a boat this Sunday http://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/feature.phtml?id=143572

 

The advert says the builder is Mick Siverdale oops Siverwright which should be Sivewright. I've searched on this forum and googled but can't find any information. Is anyone familiar with this builder?

 

Any information would be much appreciated.

 

Thanks :)

 

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Almost certainly "Mick Sivewright" who's specialisation was to build very compact narrowboats.

 

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Actually Ange, it says Mick Siverwright" in the ad, so I'm not sure where you are getting the "dale" bit from.

 

I think the correct spelling is probably SIVEWRIGHT, bit I have seen it spelt SIEVEWRIGT.

 

EDIT AGAIN.

 

Jim Shead's list seems to agree with SIVEWRIGHT....

 

NIGHT OWL Built by M.SIVEWRIGHT BTBLDRS - Length 9.15 metres (30 feet ) - Beam 2.08 metres (6 feet 10 inches ) Metal hull, power of 15. Registered with British Waterways number 47050 as a Powered. Last registration recorded on 19/04/2008.

 

Looks like it probably doesn't currently have a BW license ?

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Almost certainly "Mick Sivewright" who's specialisation was to build very compact narrowboats.

 

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Actually Ange, it says Mick Siverwright" in the ad, so I'm not sure where you are getting the "dale" bit from.

 

 

OOPS! :blush:

 

I'll ask the mods to change the title! (Silverdale's a very nice place we visited recently - must have been on my mind!!)

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I've updated the topic title Ange..

 

Mick Sivewright is something to do with Kings Lock Chandlery in Middlewich, I'm sure somebody will either put me straight on this or expand on it.

 

He built a few of them, all called "Something Owl" and have been nicknamed the Owl Class by a few. Due to their shape they are quite spacious inside as the biggest one I've seen was about 36ft if I remember rightly, the smallest being only 27ft, but one of the downsides to their shape is that they swim like a brick on a rope unfortunately :(

 

Just to add...

 

Ange, the 27ft version mentioned above used to be moored up on the same moorings your parents are at now. It went to Harral Brokerage a couple of years ago and was priced at about £18k if I remember rightly and took about a year to sell. I personally think the asking price is a bit on the high side, but again it is only the asking price after all.

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Mum & dad are looking at a boat this Sunday http://narrowboats.a...phtml?id=143572

 

The advert says the builder is Mick Siverdale oops Siverwright which should be Sivewright. I've searched on this forum and googled but can't find any information. Is anyone familiar with this builder?

 

Any information would be much appreciated.

 

Thanks :)

 

Edited for very blonde moment!

 

They are being a little creative about the mooring, which is odd, because it is a god mooring without spinning a yarn about it.

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What does -

 

almost full boat safety certificate

 

mean...

 

mmm..

 

a bit like selling a car that is almost able to pass an MOT...

 

Something not quite right...to me..

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What does -

 

almost full boat safety certificate

 

mean...

 

mmm..

 

a bit like selling a car that is almost able to pass an MOT...

 

Something not quite right...to me..

 

I simply took that to mean "Recent BSC" (almost the full 4 years to run)

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Woah!

 

Alarm Bells!!

 

sale includes fridge, brand new maritime living flame effect calor gas fire,

 

It looks like it's something like in this link.

 

It has no flue, so I fail to see how it can be acceptable in a narrow boat ?

 

Unless I'm really missing something, that element looks like a real barge-pole job.

 

It's a very odly worded advert, for example....

 

Night owl has a state of art electrical management system, the boat has a separate starter battery and domestic battery ensuring the starter battery stays charged.

 

Separatig dopmestic batteries from starting is now almost so universal on narrow baots, why even bother to mention. Certainly that doesn't in itself make it "state of the art". :lol:

 

What does -

 

almost full boat safety certificate

 

mean...

I agree with Dave.

 

I think it means it got one recently.

 

It would be interesting to see the paperwork, and whether that stove was on board, and, if so, the ventilation calculations that would say it is OK to run it......

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Woah!

 

Alarm Bells!!

 

 

 

It looks like it's something like in this link.

 

It has no flue, so I fail to see how it can be acceptable in a narrow boat ?

 

Unless I'm really missing something, that element looks like a real barge-pole job.

 

It's a very odly worded advert, for example....

 

 

 

Separatig dopmestic batteries from starting is now almost so universal on narrow baots, why even bother to mention. Certainly that doesn't in itself make it "state of the art". :lol:

 

 

I agree with Dave.

 

I think it means it got one recently.

 

It would be interesting to see the paperwork, and whether that stove was on board, and, if so, the ventilation calculations that would say it is OK to run it......

 

I don't - it reads to me like it is almost BSS compliant, if not why does it not say BSS cert expires in XXXX or BSS cert until...

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Ange

 

Our first boat was Tawny Owl, a 32' Mick Sivewright boat. We were really pleased with it and at times miss it in many ways.

 

I think he has now retired, may be wrong, and has sold up at the chandlers.

 

As far as price is concerned, who knows, buyer beware....

 

Compact maybe but to me, well built.

 

Martyn

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Ah, but I'm local, and I know what certain phrases tend to mean round here!!

 

So when does the BSS cert expire.??

 

..

 

Edit to remove curious double post

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Our first boat was Tawny Owl, a 32' Mick Sivewright boat. We were really pleased with it and at times miss it in many ways.

 

I think he has now retired, may be wrong, and has sold up at the chandlers.

Recently Wedgwood Narrowboats started building a new generation of short narrow boats also called "Owl class".

 

These are based on the concept of the Mick Sivewright boats, but made a few feet longer to get over some of the difficulties of a boat that is 30 feet, or even less.

 

Here is the Waterways World review from October 2010 issue. (Beware, quite a big PDF document for those on a slow link).

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I don't - it reads to me like it is almost BSS compliant, if not why does it not say BSS cert expires in XXXX or BSS cert until...

Because sadly not everyone is so careful and precise about how they word things. Easy enough for any potential buyer to ask... not all that sinister, read it however you like.

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Because sadly not everyone is so careful and precise about how they word things. Easy enough for any potential buyer to ask... not all that sinister, read it however you like.

 

I find it interesting how your view about how much effort people should put into an advert changes...

 

http://www.canalworld.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=36388&view=findpost&p=653821

 

Could not any potential buyer here not just ask for more photos?

 

are you just being argumentative perhaps?

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Mum & dad are looking at a boat this Sunday http://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/feature.phtml?id=143572

 

The advert says the builder is Mick Siverdale oops Siverwright which should be Sivewright. I've searched on this forum and googled but can't find any information. Is anyone familiar with this builder?

 

Any information would be much appreciated.

 

Thanks :)

 

Edited for very blonde moment!

 

You've had most of the info, very little extra that I can remember. He operated from King's Lock at one time running the chandlery and producing these small Owl Class boats. I think, but can't be sure, that he might have had something to do with the boat sales/chandlery at the Wardle end of the Middlewich Branch. The stern deck was usually stepped down below gunwale level. Some of the early ones were fitted with a Volvo (?) sail-drive leg (think small motor mounted on an outboard leg but sticking down vertically) sticking down through, and fixed to, a round aperture in the uxter plate. This one though says it is a Vetus so it sounds as if it is a conventional system.

Edited to add that you can see the stepped stern deck clearly on this one:

http://www.apolloduck.ae/display.phtml?aid=159880

Roger

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Mick used to run the Kings Lock chandlery, but sold the business to Steve wedgwood. He still operates a Vetus dealership from Kings Lock Boatyard and the slipway and shed.

Kings Lock Boatyard is separate to the Kings Lock Chandlery and is past the pub.

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