Lock 13 website - missing in action?

[midnight cowboy]

Anybody know what's happened to the Lock 13 website? - seems to be down.

 

T

[alias]

28 minutes ago, midnight cowboy said:

Anybody know what's happened to the Lock 13 website? - seems to be down.

 

T

 

It's working for me on Chrome, though the browser initially gives a warning that the site is insecure, and you have to push a button to say you want to go there anyway.  

[Puffling]

Works okay here on Firefox. No security warning.

[Hudds Lad]

Works fine in Edge on the PC, and also in Chrome on my iPhone

[Rob-M]

I get site not found on Chrome.

[Hudds Lad]

We are trying http://www.lock13.co.uk/ yes?

 

worked in Chrome on PC too

[Rob-M]

Chrome on my Android tablet forces to https to maintain security.  It no longer allows http.  There may be a setting somewhere to disable that behaviour but I've not seen it.  I initially got the not secure and option to continue but when continuing to the not secure site I get the site not found message.

[alias]

[midnight cowboy]

Must have been a glitch this Morning - working fine for me now

 

Thanks everyone

 

Case CLOSED

 

[StephenA]

21 minutes ago, Rob-M said:

Chrome on my Android tablet forces to https to maintain security.  It no longer allows http.  There may be a setting somewhere to disable that behaviour but I've not seen it.  I initially got the not secure and option to continue but when continuing to the not secure site I get the site not found message.

 

Quite why someone is running a non https site in this day and age baffles me - with letsencrypt there really isn't any excuse.

[Jess--]

1 minute ago, StephenA said:

 

Quite why someone is running a non https site in this day and age baffles me - with letsencrypt there really isn't any excuse.

Some things just don't need encrypting and with newer browsers throwing a fit it just makes things difficult.

one example I ran into recently was a remote temperature sensor, you go to the site and it shows the current temperature and a graph for the previous 24 hours, no login forms / no scripts / nothing but raw html (not even an image file)

now with browsers refusing to connect I either have to work out how the hell to set up https on an arduino within the 5k of memory that is unused or scrap a few dozen sensors and replace them with something a lot more expensive & power hungry

[StephenA]

15 minutes ago, Jess-- said:

Some things just don't need encrypting and with newer browsers throwing a fit it just makes things difficult.

one example I ran into recently was a remote temperature sensor, you go to the site and it shows the current temperature and a graph for the previous 24 hours, no login forms / no scripts / nothing but raw html (not even an image file)

now with browsers refusing to connect I either have to work out how the hell to set up https on an arduino within the 5k of memory that is unused or scrap a few dozen sensors and replace them with something a lot more expensive & power hungry

 

Yes I know but Google / other search engines / browser manufacturers are pushing everything that way. Google downgrades non SSL search sites in its results.

[Bobby Blue]

2 hours ago, midnight cowboy said:

Anybody know what's happened to the Lock 13 website? - seems to be down.

 

T

works fine for me

[Rob-M]

Works for me on PC (Edge and Chrome) but not on Android.

[Tony Brooks]

2 hours ago, Rob-M said:

Chrome on my Android tablet forces to https to maintain security.  It no longer allows http.  There may be a setting somewhere to disable that behaviour but I've not seen it.  I initially got the not secure and option to continue but when continuing to the not secure site I get the site not found message.

 

I think this happens on some/many browsers if your home screen is a http site, and you then try to go to a simply htp site. I find that setting the home page to a known htp site sometimes helps.

 

 

1 hour ago, StephenA said:

 

Quite why someone is running a non https site in this day and age baffles me - with letsencrypt there really isn't any excuse.

 

Why should they not be as long as there are no communications or financial transactions taking place on the site. It is just another level of embu**erance for the user and owner. The day http, with all the agro that goes with it becomes mandatory will become the day tb-training goes off line.

[StephenA]

5 minutes ago, Tony Brooks said:

 

I think this happens on some/many browsers if your home screen is a http site, and you then try to go to a simply htp site. I find that setting the home page to a known htp site sometimes helps.

 

 

 

Why should they not be as long as there are no communications or financial transactions taking place on the site. It is just another level of embu**erance for the user and owner. The day http, with all the agro that goes with it becomes mandatory will become the day tb-training goes off line.

 

Switching from http to https is simple. A lot of hosting companies have everything set up for you to do it with the click of a button - and that includes setting up letsencrypt for the SSL certificates. Netnerd accounts come with it basically pre-configured for you.

[Tony Brooks]

Just now, StephenA said:

 

Switching from http to https is simple. A lot of hosting companies have everything set up for you to do it with the click of a button - and that includes setting up letsencrypt for the SSL certificates. Netnerd accounts come with it basically pre-configured for you.

 

And how often have you hit the SSL certificate is out of date when trying to access a website, even large corporate ones?

 

I note that you do not answer the question about why http is so important if the site is not carrying out correspondence or financial transactions.

 

Yes, many hosting companies probably do - at extra cost. Now you seem to be saying one needs another account - Netnurd, would that be free or have a cost implication.

[Rob-M]

My penguin hosting site comes with free SSL certificate, they automatically point http and https traffic to the same folder so nothing difficult to do to have all traffic over https.

[David Mack]

1 hour ago, StephenA said:

 

Yes I know but Google / other search engines / browser manufacturers are pushing everything that way. Google downgrades non SSL search sites in its results.

And I'm sure @Jess-- is seriously worried about how that affects his remote temperature sensors!

11 minutes ago, StephenA said:

 

Switching from http to https is simple. A lot of hosting companies have everything set up for you to do it with the click of a button - and that includes setting up letsencrypt for the SSL certificates. Netnerd accounts come with it basically pre-configured for you.

Another Netnerd customer. I got worried that some of my pages were being blocked by browsers, but I found there was guidance on the Netnerd website about how to convert to https and in the end it was easy and free. But what would have been more helpful was an alert that I needed to change if my older webpages were to continue to be accessible to the average user. I suspect lack of knowledge is a factor in older amateur managed websites not being upgraded to https.