Long term hirers?

[Kudzucraft]

Looking at doing a 4 week hire.  Found a couple of companies but can anyone list any hire boat firms that do longer hires?

I have seen some mentioned but of course I can't find them.

 

Thanks!

[mrsmelly]

Ring Dave Dare. 07470 449009. He owns several PROPER long term hire narrowboats and a lot of holiday hire boats. He is backed up by a few hire bases that tackle problems for him. He does the ususal terms on his hire fleet and multiples of one month upwards on his long term boats. Leave him a message on that number if he doesnt answer.

[OldGoat]

8 minutes ago, mrsmelly said:

Ring Dave Dare. 07470 449009. He owns several PROPER long term hire narrowboats and a lot of holiday hire boats. He is backed up by a few hire bases that tackle problems for him. He does the ususal terms on his hire fleet and multiples of one month upwards on his long term boats. Leave him a message on that number if he doesnt answer.

That's a blast from the past. A very nice gentleman (others may disagree). His company hire boats are one of the best fleets on the system, well designed and well kept. We hired from him at least twice and had a great time on both occasions.

A railway station next door amd over the bridge with good connections to Oxenford and places a bit further north. There's also a bus service that runs every Thursday fortnignt (joke) with connections to that place above and some shopping-village or other. Thewy've blacked my boat twice as well.

[Barneyp]

I think all the hire companies would consider a 4 week hire, although it may not be long enough for those that specialise in long term. 

I'd try phoning some of the smaller independent hire bases, they are more likely to be able to "do a deal", rather than having to stick to their brochure prices like the big companies.

Look on waterwaysholidays.com to find sort of boat you want and the location, then phone the hire company direct to get a good price.

[cisamcgu]

We just finished a 9 week hire with Rose narrowboats

 

Andrew

[malp]

I looked into doing this some years ago, and Canal Cruising Co at Stone was one that I came up with, if I recall correctly.

[ditchcrawler]

41 minutes ago, cisamcgu said:

We just finished a 9 week hire with Rose narrowboats

 

Andrew

I was going to suggest @Rose Narrowboats

[Kudzucraft]

Thanks!  Web sites or email address? I am in the US so much easier to contact them that way.
 

We are very seriously considering buying a boat in a couple of years when the wife retires and CC'ing the canals. Figure that smart thing is doing a month rental to make sure that this is what we want to do.

 

And yes, I have looked into VISA's, living cost, etc. very closely. And we are currently living in an RV/Caravan so I know we can live in small spaces.

[Alan de Enfield]

12 minutes ago, Kudzucraft said:

Thanks!  Web sites or email address? I am in the US so much easier to contact them that way.
 

We are very seriously considering buying a boat in a couple of years when the wife retires and CC'ing the canals. Figure that smart thing is doing a month rental to make sure that this is what we want to do.

 

And yes, I have looked into VISA's, living cost, etc. very closely. And we are currently living in an RV/Caravan so I know we can live in small spaces.

 

But are you aware that the insurance laws have changed this year and you cannot get Insurance cover for your boat if you are not a resident of, and a citizen of the UK.

There have been a couple of threads recently from 'overseas' boat owners who have been unable to insure their boats.

 

 

Edited July 30, 2022 by Alan de Enfield

[Kudzucraft]

48 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

 

But are you aware that the insurance laws have changed this year ..........

 

 

Following those pretty closely.  We are a couple of years away so there should be more info available.

 

Random thought. Wonder if we would be considered as a resident since we would be living there 9 months of the year?

 

[Alan de Enfield]

12 minutes ago, Kudzucraft said:

 

Following those pretty closely.  We are a couple of years away so there should be more info available.

 

Random thought. Wonder if we would be considered as a resident since we would be living there 9 months of the year?

 

 

If you mean 9 months on a boat and 'of no fixed abode' you may have problems..

 

The Governments definition :

 

 

You may be resident under the automatic UK tests if:

• you spent 183 or more days in the UK in the tax year
• your only home was in the UK and it was available to use for at least 91 days in total - and you spent time there for at least 30 days in the tax year
• you worked full-time in the UK for any period of 365 days and at least one of these days fell into the specific tax year

 

They also consider where you pay tax :

If you have any income from the USA you must pay UK tax on that income, If you do not pay UK tax on that income you are not a resident.

 

Have you got a US Pension ?

Will you pay UK tax on it ?

 

 

[Kudzucraft]

Good info Alan!  I guess I we will just have to wait and see how this works out. Maybe it will change.

 

[Alan de Enfield]

5 hours ago, Kudzucraft said:

Good info Alan!  I guess I we will just have to wait and see how this works out. Maybe it will change.

 

 

If the world economy does collapse we may be grateful for every 'furriners' dollars.

[midnight cowboy]

15 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said:

 

If you mean 9 months on a boat and 'of no fixed abode' you may have problems..

 

The Governments definition :

 

 

You may be resident under the automatic UK tests if:

• you spent 183 or more days in the UK in the tax year
• your only home was in the UK and it was available to use for at least 91 days in total - and you spent time there for at least 30 days in the tax year
• you worked full-time in the UK for any period of 365 days and at least one of these days fell into the specific tax year

 

They also consider where you pay tax :

If you have any income from the USA you must pay UK tax on that income, If you do not pay UK tax on that income you are not a resident.

 

Have you got a US Pension ?

Will you pay UK tax on it ?

I think you will find that as long as you show you have paid taxes due in the US to HMRC they will not doubly tax you

15 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said:

 

 

 

[Alan de Enfield]

11 minutes ago, midnight cowboy said:

I think you will find that as long as you show you have paid taxes due in the US to HMRC they will not doubly tax you

 

 

I think you will find that statement is not correct, and, I'm not sure that you can pay HMRC in the US - maybe you mean the US IRS ?

 

Hence all the fuss about Rishi Sunaks wife not paying tax on her foreign earnings (but now she is)

 

If you are a UK resident you must pay UK tax on any foreign income.

 

If you are a 'non-dom' then  you are not required to pay UK tax on forign earnings (A non-dom is someone who lives in the UK but declares their permanent home to be in another country).

 

This years experiences of (the forums overseas owners) trying to renew their boat insurance shows that if you need to get your boat insured you must be a UK resident with your permanent home in the UK.

 

Rishi Sunak's wife to pay UK tax on overseas income - BBC News

 

 

Edited July 31, 2022 by Alan de Enfield

[frahkn]

5 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

 

I think you will find that statement is not correct, and, I'm not sure that you can pay HMRC in the US - maybe you mean the US IRS ?

 

Hence all the fuss about Rishi Sunaks wife not paying tax on her foreign earnings (but now she is)

 

If you are a UK resident you must pay UK tak on any foreign income.

 

If you are a 'non-dom' the  you are not required to pay UK tax on forign earnings (A non-dom is someone who lives in the UK but declares their permanent home to be in another country).

 

This years experiences of (the forums overseas owners) trying to renew their boat insurance shows that if you need to get your boat insured you must be a UK resident with your permanent home in the UK.

 

Rishi Sunak's wife to pay UK tax on overseas income - BBC News

 

 

Broadly, the statement is correct.

 

I won't go into the UK/USA double taxation regime here. It's complex, boring to anyone not directly involved and besides, I'm no longer being paid to do it! You will find it all in the treaty if you are interested.