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Rose Narrowboats

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  1. Rose Narrowboats

    Modelled on a Starvationer?

    The design also looks very similar to one of the Oxford Canal Co's maintenance flats. I wonder what the power plant was, and what, if anything, they'll do with it?
  2. Rose Narrowboats

    Historic Boats for sale online

    The Hillmorton Section gunnite boat in the mid 50s was a Royalty class - looks like George to me in these photographs: http://collections.canalrivertrust.org.uk/bw200.1.72.29 I'm sure my grandfather also referred to Prince as one of "his" gunnite boats which says it would have been somewhere on the old Warwick district as well - possibly also Hillmorton section but in the 60s as he did move there until 1961.
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    Oxford Canal, Bridge 70 at Hillmorton

    I can answer this one The yard at Hillmorton was the O.C.C's (latterly B.W.B's) maintenance yard. My family moved from Yiewsley to 5, The Locks in 1962 when my grandfather, A. V. Grantham MBE was appointed as Area Engineer for what was then known as the Warwick District. Canal House, as it is called, had been the Oxford Canal Company's Engineer's house, and it came with the BWB Area Engineer's job. The only access was by foot over Br. 70, which according to the O.C.C. length books was un-named. The first reference to Br.70 as "Grantham's Bridge" was in the first edition of the Nicholson's cruising guides. It came about because my grandfather was the proof reader for this area, and author added the name in for a joke to see if he was paying attention. He did indeed spot it, smiled, and left it there assuming the editor would remove it, but somehow it made it to print and seems to have become fact. No-one who ever lived or worked at The Locks that I knew in the 25 years I lived there called it anything other than its number, or "the bridge over the arm". I only found out about it when I was browsing through a Nicholson's in my teens, and I'd lived there since I was born in 1973. At which point I went and asked my granddad, and was told it was no more than a slightly embarrassing mis-print! There's no link I'm aware of between our family or any of the boating Grantham's - but I'd be interested to know if there was one. hth, Anthony Grantham
  4. Rose Narrowboats

    Oliver Cromwell final moments

    You cynic you - I thought it was just me!
  5. Rose Narrowboats

    A sad tale

    They make good push tugs you know, keep cutting!
  6. Rose Narrowboats

    A sad tale

    The "lining up thingy" looks to me just like a bit of steel tacked on to support a plank to stand on. I can see the sense of cutting bits with the boat afloat next to the bank, where you can get the forklift to it easily to take the scrap away rather than having to handball it out of the dock, and the cost of craning her out would be £****. I could never agree with a GU boat being scrapped though, no matter how bad it was.
  7. There's three possibilities (assuming the drain plug is done up) for oil leaks on a PRM150 - input shaft seal, output shaft seal and selector shaft seal. The last of those is a relatively quick job (15 minutes if the access is good) which can be done in situ, the other two require the gearbox to be removed and if it's the output shaft seal, dismantled. With the engine stopped, cooled down etc, follow the control cable to the selector lever on the back of the gearbox, and run your finger round under/behind the lever - if it's dry, the it's not that one. Repeat under the output flange where the box joins the shaft coupling. You can'ts get the the front one as it's in the bell-housing. The other possibility is a leaky oil cooler - but that normally fills the box with water which promplty turns into "mayonnaise".
  8. Rose Narrowboats

    Lister STW3 injector fuel bleed

    Good luck finding an air duct on an STW3 Richard ?
  9. Rose Narrowboats

    Can I have Advice please ?

    Buying a wooden boat is the easy bit - funding the ongoing repairs is expensive, and don't expect to get a fraction of that money back when you sell it. As someone who had a wooden boat once said to me "Living on a wooden boat is great so long as you can accept it's always trying to sink underneath you." To be fair his maintenance was at the praying and hoping end of the scale, but they are an almost all consuming hobby in their own right so if you just want a home, buy something steel. Given that she appears to be a "big Ricky" butty, which is now motorised and converted I'd be doubtful of the existence of many "original features" Pete Harrison of this forum will be able to provide some more insight into the history.
  10. Rose Narrowboats

    Rivetted Construction In The Modern Day

    That's about £61k in today's money.
  11. Rose Narrowboats

    Gordon's Pleasure Cruisers - Lutine Bell

    Yes, for sure - see my post above. Rugby Boatbuilders hulls were built by Boughton Products.
  12. Rose Narrowboats

    Gordon's Pleasure Cruisers - Lutine Bell

    I'd go with air cooling inlets as they were generally fitted with Lister S-range engines. Most of the Napton fleet I remember were SUC or Harborough built, but Lutine Bell, Banbury Naviigator and the one in Graham & Jo's pics above are definitely Boughton Products hulls (as used by Rugby Boatbuilders). As said further up the cabin style is definitely not that of Rugby Boatbuilders wooden or fibreglass tops which were a more traditional shape. The top as fitted to Lutine Bell looks a lot more like a Teddesley style fibreglass cabin to me. I'd always though that Boughton only built for Rugby Boatbuilders, but maybe not. Given the proximity of Napton to Boughton Products (in Rugby, down Boughton Road, amazingly enough) and the then owner of Teddesley (Peter Jones) living in Dunchurch I can envisage a link. Off topic: Boughton Products carried on as general fabricators long after they gave up boat building, and the owner later ended up working for G&J Reeves at Napton IIRC.
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    The seller has two slides of the josher butty, which must be a maintenance boat from the condition of it. There was a scruffy josher butty on Hillmorton Section still in FMC colours in the 50's. A passer by gave me a photo of it moored on our wharf taken from up the drive by his father. I think the other photo could be taken from on top of bridge 30 looking south.
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    I had exactly the same dilemma today when passing a boat moored at Hall Oaks Wood. Trad stern, doors open, hatch pulled to with a suitcase generator sat on the footboard with exhaust pointing towards the deck. A slight change of wind and the fumes would be blown back into the cabin. I kept quiet too - not least because I was moving one of the hireboats, so my unsolicited opinion/advice would likely be even less welcome than usual. It seems the Boat Safety Scheme's current push on the dangers of CO from petrol engines has not yet reached out to all those who need warning.
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    Hire boat fuel charges

    We do include fuel in the hire price and our fillers are all locked to prevent theft - it happens, particularly to hire boats and in the most unlikely places. The key for the locking filler is on the boat key ring - vital if the boat is on an extended cruise. "Don't forget that a narrowboat can turn tighter when accelerating, so starting slow then accelerating will do it." - nope, as speed picks up the rate of turn decreases.

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