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Rose Narrowboats

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  1. Same Brinklow, totally unrelated businesses on separate sites several miles apart though.
  2. Apologies - I've just amended my post to clarify I was talking about 25mm of sprayfoam. Your research has obviously thrown up some very different figures to mine. Source for the expanded polystyrene (who recently took over our local supplier, Warren Insulation): https://www.insulationshop.co/25mm_polystyrene_insulation_eps_70.html Source for the Kingspan: https://www.insulationshop.co/25mm_thermawall_tw55_pir_insulation_board_kingspan.html Source for the sprayfoam: http://www.puservices.co.nz/polyurethane-spray-foam I've seen the wiki page claiming up to R-6 for sprayfoam, but haven't seen any installers claiming it. Based on having pretty well all types of insulation across the hire fleet over the years, there's no doubt sprayfoam is the most effective, but on a cost/benefit analysis the polystyrene/foil bubble wrap combination has been most satisfactory for this particular project.
  3. Probably because even the article you quoted accepts it has an R value of 1 when in direct contact. Other reasonable sources quote 1.1, the UK manufacturer (YBS Airtec) claims 1.497. 25mm Polystyrene has R value of between 0.6 and 0.7, so that extra 3mm of insulation has almost trebled the total insulation value. Kingspan has an R value of 1.1 - but it seems it is generally accepted that it degrades with age and is equivalent to polystyrene after 10 years. Sprayfoam has an R value of 1.2(ish) which is fine and dandy until you want to get at a rivet or do a welding repair.
  4. Steel shell, 25mm polystyrene, then the 3mm foil/bubblewrap/foil then the timber lining.
  5. Yet based on the evidence in front of me, it works.
  6. This summer we did a quickie refit to prolong the life of one of my own boats until I have the time/resources to cut most of the cabin off (windows in the wrong places, tubular handrails etc) and do it properly. It's a boat with a complicated history, but the cabin is mid-80s and only insulated with 25mm polystyrene all over. I decided we'd leave 25mm polystyrene, but add 3mm foil faced bubble wrap either side of it just as an experiment. In the end we'd only got room for one layer of the bubblewrap. The 3mm foil faced bubblewrap claims to be equivalent to 55mm of polystyrene, and based on the negligible amount of heat we are putting into the boat so far this autumn I'm quite prepared to believe it. Both my boats have Squirrel 1410s fitted, and this one is using about half as much coal - as in there's only just enough on the grate (with coal savers) to keep it lit - and the kids keep opening the windows because they're too warm. It seems too good to be true (the cost for a roll big enough to do the whole cabin was about £70 from Screwfix), but I haven't found a downside yet.
  7. Years ago, an Electrolux engineer worked on a gas fridge in a boat. A couple of weeks later there was a gas explosion on that boat. It was accepted that the explosion was noting to do with the work carried out to the fridge, but as the last person to work on the gas system, he was held liable as he had not,as a competent person, checked the system was safe, and that is why Electrolux would not service any of their products on boats for years after. That's why we (and I suspect most others) won't touch a gas system (even to connect a bottle) unless we do a full soundness test at the end. Likewise, if a member of the boatyard staff is injured (ie slips) whilst lifting a gas bottle onto your boat and is off work for long enough that is a notifiable accident, the Health and Safety come down on all concerned like a ton bricks. It happened here about 10 years ago - the inspector made it quite clear that if the slip had happened on one of our boats she would have closed us down on the spot despite the fact our member of staff was back at work after five days. Fortunately for the private owner, she was lies inclined to go after him but try to pin the issue on our procedures. Our guy had even risk assessed it - the vicious irony was that his (literal) downfall was a "non-slip" deck mat that slid across the deck underneath his feet as he stepped onto the boat. The profit we made on the gas bottle sale definitely didn't make it all worthwhile...... However, I'm probably just another curmudgeonly boat yard owner. 😝
  8. Yes, and as gas free boats become more common and we're put under more pressure not to use solid fuel it's hard to see a future for them. I learnt today that a government paper says all boats built after 2025 should be capable of zero emissions (not sure whether that's from the outset or capable of future conversion though) and I sat in a meeting a few months back where it was made very clear that the navigation authorities had no funding and no therefore intention of providing recharging points which given the rural nature of most navigations is likely to be very costly. There's a new tier of solid fuel stove emissions reg.s coming in in 2022 and I think only one of the currently manufactured stoves meets it (buy a new squirrel while you can folks..) Gas cookers can't be fitted to new homes from 2025, so expect cookers (and bottled gas) to get more expensive and ultimately it will be impossible to get anything better than caravan quality products which aren't really up to the sort of use they get in liveaboard or hire boats. I don't see anyone effectively campaigning for boaters from any sector, probably just because we such a small interest group, so I reckon we should just forget boating, and fill the cut in to make more room for wellbeing.....and we can all go jump on aeroplanes for our holidays. Rant over
  9. Most of our fuel sales customers would have by choice 30-40 litres into their boat as I think most have no idea how big the tank is, how much is in it or how far they can travel. Most wouldn't be worried about spilling a bit in to the cut if it saves them a few quid. To be fair, this was a concern raised when the last sytem was introduced, and we supply plenty of fuel in cans to liveaboards over the winter already and their hasn't been in increase in pollution incidents as far as I'm aware. People soon work out having a bottle of washing up liquid to hand hides the problem anyway...... Some hire bases have already given up retail, and I can think of a few more who are considering stopping (us included) in his area because it's not worth the grief we get. We also sell quite a bit of diesel to local farmers and other legitimate users, and the income from that will be missed in the winter. According to the BMF, retailers are likely to have to replace their tank/pipework and pump as it not possible to guarantee the removal all traces of red dye from the system. As my existing tank is underground that's totally cost prohibitive, and no way am I putting an above ground tank of white diesel in at our location because of the risk of theft and (worse) the ensuing pollution. If we are able to use our existing system (once flushed) to refuel our own boats all well and good, if not I'll put the smallest possible tank and pump in just to keep our own fleet supplied to mitigate the cost and risk - that may well be a road tow bowser so I can go to ASDA or wherever and keep it well out of the way when not in use. If too many take the same view then refuelling of hireboats on longer trips or continuous cruisers without access to road transport is going to become difficult. I am also concerned about the increased vulnerability of boats to theft once they have a much more valuable/useful fuel in them.
  10. They are doing some repairs to and reinforcing to the bridge foundations. I think the work was originally scheduled for April, and they were definitely considering using boats to do the work at that point , but my guess is that they have decided it's shallow enough to take the diggers for a paddle, hence the ramp.
  11. You need an 80 ton metre HIAB on a tractor unit with a 40' artic trailer behind. PM sent with contact details of a man who has one which we use regularly. hth, Anthony
  12. We also do long term hire and will permit single handing to people with suitable experience. hth, Anthony
  13. I'm sure the tug is Petrel - she's one of the few with the name welded onto bow on each side. It's hard to make out but the middle letter is definitely a 'T'. There are lots of detail variations on those tugs (hatches, chimney and engine vent positions, winches etc) and everything looks right for Petrel. The picture is taken from the top of Bridge 95 looking towards Napton - you can just see the start of the layby on the offside behind the tug.
  14. There are no boats buried in either gauging dock or the drydock. The outer dock was deepened post war, so anything there would have been uncovered but fact behind the rumour is there was another short, covered, arm leading off the engine arm between the drydock entrance and the gauging dock which was where the OCCs inspection launch "Lady Godiva" was kept. The entrance to that arm is still visible if you know where to look (it was used for storing spare paddle boards in) and it can be seen on the large scale pre-war OS maps. The building (an open sided timber structure apparently) and the boat, were deliberately burnt in late 1947 and the dock filled in - so the bottom half of the hull will be still be there. It was petrol engined at the time of its demise, but I have never seen a photo of it, and don't know whether it was ever steam driven. My understanding was that it was old enough to have been horse drawn originally. A four bladed prop for it and one of the timber pigeon boxes survived in the stores until the late 1970s when the prop vanished (probably for scrap) but the pigeon box survives..... If you want to know where the abandoned steamer is, that's extra!
  15. The "old canal" as the local always knew it (it was never referred to as a basin because it wasn't - it was just a length of canal retained because it had a flood paddle at the end of it) was stanked off long before 1970 - my mother used to graze her horses in there in the early 60s! "End dock" would most likely be the old gauging dock at the end of the engine arm.
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