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Having said that, it is reassuring to know that your gas installation has been inspected and tested by someone who knows what he's doing and has the right test equipment - and potentially can deal with any issues for you if required. 

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9 minutes ago, Sea Dog said:

Having said that, it is reassuring to know that your gas installation has been inspected and tested by someone who knows what he's doing and has the right test equipment - and potentially can deal with any issues for you if required. 

Agreed and additionally I have a TPI 725L hand held gas sniffer from Screwfix @ £49.99. 

It has a 7inch probe so is great for out of the way places such as under the floor.

Sleep well and sleep soundly!

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54 minutes ago, Sea Dog said:

Having said that, it is reassuring to know that your gas installation has been inspected and tested by someone who knows what he's doing and has the right test equipment - and potentially can deal with any issues for you if required. 


I agree. However I would disagree that the discriminator for someone knowing what they are doing and having the right test equipment, is whether they are gas safe registered or not.

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1 hour ago, nicknorman said:


I agree. However I would disagree that the discriminator for someone knowing what they are doing and having the right test equipment, is whether they are gas safe registered or not.

No, I agree, and you make a good point, but whilst you're getting a BSS Inspector in anyway, it might be a reasonable place start if you are not "competent" yourself and don't have a alternative contact.

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The bss tests are quite prescribitive around gas and the examiner needs a manometer. So really the only issue is whether he can use it and whether he can connect it to a test nipple or not. 

It really ain't hard....

 

As nickn says gas safe doesn't mean much and in my experience you would be best to avoid gas safe bods. If you MUST have one find one recommended by people you trust. 

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4 minutes ago, jonathanA said:

If you MUST have one

 

 

If you are a liveaboard and do not have a bubble-leak detector then you must .............................

 

Carrying out 'work on the gas system of boats used primarily for residential or domestic purposes fall within scope of a piece of UK legislation known as the Gas Safety [Installation and Use] Regulations (GSIUR).

As such, the law demands that anyone contracted to 'work' on the LPG system of a boat in scope must be (LPG boats-competent) Gas Safe registered.

As the definition of 'work' covers the removal and replacement of a screw nipple on a gas test point, the scope of the GSIUR includes carrying out BSS LPG tightness test.

Therefore, on a boat in scope of GSIUR, examiners who are not Gas Safe registered can only complete check 7.12.2 (confirming gas tightness) by either:

  • undertaking a gas tightness test using a bubble leak detector where fitted and correctly located; or,
  • observing the tightness test conducted by a (LPG boats-competent) Gas Safe registered installer

Where a BSS Examiner is also Gas Safe registered is undertaking a BSS Examination of a boat in scope of GSIUR such as if it is a boat used mainly for domestic/residential purposes, the Examiner could potentially identify safety-related LPG issues beyond the extent of the BSS Requirements. In doing so, they may feel duty-bound under their Gas Safe registration to report and discuss the additional issues.

Does a bubble leak detector do away with the need for a Gas Safe registered engineer testing the gas system on residential boats?

Yes, because any BSS Examiner can check for leaks using a fully functioning and appropriately located bubble tester. 

It is the case however that there is no BSS requirement for a bubble leak detector and so fitting one is matter of boat owner choice.

Note that all other types of gas work, such as adding or replacing an appliance, needs to be conducted by a Gas Safe registered engineer with the LPG boat competence listed on his/her identity card.

Is it recommended that boat owners fit a bubble leak detector?

Yes, fitting a bubble leak detector in the LPG cylinder locker is strongly recommended because it allows owners to check for leaks themselves and so enjoy piece of mind in between BSS Examinations. It is very important that fitting bubble leak detector on residential boats (and private leisure boats) is done by a LPG boat-competent Gas Safe registered engineer.

This is because the bubble leak detector must be correctly located and oriented, and for large volume LPG systems, the engineer may need to install a bypass arrangement to allow gas to flow past the detector when it is not being used.

Are there any other alternatives to allow non Gas Safe registered BSS Examiners to check residential boat gas systems?

Unfortunately there are only two methods that can be used to check for gas leaks on boats (manometer leak check and bubble leak detector check). The only other alternative is for the non-Gas Safe registered BSS Examiner to observe a manometer leak check conducted by a LPG boat-competent Gas Safe registered engineer.

Note on the BSS Examination for non-private boats - If a vessel is a hire boat, third-party managed share-owned boat, trip boat, rented residential boat, floating business or some other form of commercial or public vessel, the boat will be examined to either the 2017 Hire Boat Requirements or 2002 BSS Standards as stipulated by the navigation authority registering your boat.

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