curlass24 Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 Hello peeps, We need to buy an LPG oven for our narrow boat. I have seen some that come with a conversion kit. Do you know if an oven with an lpg conversion will pass the BSS? Also any recommendations on good lpg ovens to buy? Thanks! Malcolm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicknorman Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 If the conversion kit makes the oven flame pattern satisfactory (which it should do) then that in itself isn’t an issue. But the oven will also need to have flame failure / flame supervision device (that shuts the gas supply off if the flame goes out). Most modern ovens have this, but still worth checking before you buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil. Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 No issue with the BSS as far as conversion kits are concerned, what is required is the flame safety device which cuts off the gas if the flames goes out. As to models, we have a belling lpg oven which has been very good. They do singles and doubles for lpg depending on how much room you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, curlass24 said: Do you know if an oven with an lpg conversion will pass the BSS? The only requirement is that it has a flame failure cutout device - known as FFD. Oh, and that the feed pipe is large enough for all rings and oven to be on full along with any other gas devices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Dog Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, WotEver said: The only requirement is that it has a flame failure cutout device - known as FFD. Oh, and that the feed pipe is large enough for all rings and oven to be on full along with any other gas devices. For some, there will also be an issue with finding an ignition system to work on 12v dc as opposed to the 240v ac versions normally found in the domestic market. Domestic sizing is another possible issue with the restricted space and smaller counter sizing in a typical narrowboat. Edited January 2, 2019 by Sea Dog Missing words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 17 minutes ago, Sea Dog said: For some, there will also be an issue with finding an ignition system to work on 12v dc as opposed to the 240v ac versions normally found in the domestic market. Domestic sizing is another possible issue with the restricted space and smaller counter sizing in a typical narrowboat. All true but not a BSS concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Dog Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 minute ago, WotEver said: All true but not a BSS concern. I agree - but they are factors the OP will need to consider in any answers to his second question. Its also why we continue to persevere with a Caprice MkIII! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sea Dog said: I agree - but they are factors the OP will need to consider in any answers to his second question. Its also why we continue to persevere with a Caprice MkIII! I’d forgotten all about the 2nd question! I guess my answer would be “whatever takes your fancy”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Dog Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 minute ago, WotEver said: I’d forgotten all about the 2nd question! I guess my answer would be “whatever takes your fancy”. Well I hope he finds one and remembers to come back to tell us what it was - I might be in the queue behind him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artleknock Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 You could always try a Caravan (dirty word) dealer for a LPG / 12v ignition oven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWM Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 Some lpg kits are fiddly to install, particularly the main oven/grill.Having fitted a conversion kit once i won't bother doing another. There are plenty of decent cookers on offer, with a wider choice available from marine rather than canal based chandlerys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHutch Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 Parents are on LPG at home, had a lovely Newsworld cooker back in the late 80's which was replaced 'like for like' five years ago but sadly in the mean time the brand had been bought up by GlenDimplex and the quality is awfull. The kitchen is smaller so would ideally have a 550 rather than a 600 as might suit a boat. So I'll watch this for suggestions. Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWM Posted January 3, 2019 Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 10 hours ago, DHutch said: Parents are on LPG at home, had a lovely Newsworld cooker back in the late 80's which was replaced 'like for like' five years ago but sadly in the mean time the brand had been bought up by GlenDimplex and the quality is awfull. The kitchen is smaller so would ideally have a 550 rather than a 600 as might suit a boat. So I'll watch this for suggestions. Daniel New world, leisure, etc. all seem to have gone the same way quality wise. We went for a dometic cooker last time and the quality is excellent, probably not ideal for home use being gimballed though. I did see an Italian made one at Denham yacht Station but can't remember the name, it was narrow and looked well made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlass24 Posted January 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 Hi all thanks for the advice regarding BSS much appreciated. Anyone have any good models / makes to recommended for a 50cm freestanding oven? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlass24 Posted January 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 Also has anyone had experience with a double oven on LPG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlass24 Posted January 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 thoughts on this? https://www.very.co.uk/hotpoint-ultima-hug52g-50cm-double-oven-gas-cooker-with-fsd-graphite/990722883.prd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted January 3, 2019 Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 23 minutes ago, curlass24 said: thoughts on this? https://www.very.co.uk/hotpoint-ultima-hug52g-50cm-double-oven-gas-cooker-with-fsd-graphite/990722883.prd Looks like it requires a permanent 230V supply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWM Posted January 3, 2019 Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 44 minutes ago, curlass24 said: thoughts on this? https://www.very.co.uk/hotpoint-ultima-hug52g-50cm-double-oven-gas-cooker-with-fsd-graphite/990722883.prd Depending on the planned layout of the kitchen those lift up glass lids can be a problem, due to the cabin side profile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jddevel Posted January 3, 2019 Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 Had our LPG cooker converted by the gas registered engineer. Certificate issued. Had a stainless steel hinged lid made which also clips to cabin side and protect both window and side. Doubles as additional work surface. 240 volt lighting ignition system or we us a hand held gasless igniter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted January 3, 2019 Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 hour ago, BWM said: Depending on the planned layout of the kitchen those lift up glass lids can be a problem, due to the cabin side profile. Good point. With many of those lids you have to lift them past 90 degrees for the hob burners to light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWM Posted January 3, 2019 Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, WotEver said: Good point. With many of those lids you have to lift them past 90 degrees for the hob burners to light. Yes, many have a cut out switch fitted but is rarely mentioned in the specification! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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