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Phil.

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  1. Phil.

    Brexit 2019

    I accept she will plod on, it is her deal that is dead in its current form. The issue of the leadership is now settled unless she resigns. If she can't get her deal through eventually, she will either resign, or despite what she says, throw it back to the country. If she does get her deal through, the DUP have stated they will withdraw support for the government. If they do, and there is no reason to suspect they won't in those circumstances, Labour could win a no confidence vote in the government.
  2. Phil.

    Brexit 2019

    Whilst she has survived it can hardly be called resounding given that more than a third of the party have no confidence in her. What the vote does is put into sharp relief, that her deal as it stands is a dead as a dodo.
  3. Phil.

    Brexit 2019

    I don't think there will be a GE as it would require either some Tories to vote for it, unlikely, or for the Government to lose a no confidence vote, which would require the DUP to abandon its arrangement. The latter is only likely, if the May deal is passed which, even if May wins tonight is unlikely.
  4. Phil.

    Brexit 2019

    I don't believe that is the case, some of us are not cowed by project fear, and suspect that the establishment, both U.K. and eu want you to believe those are the only choices, but if it's a choice I'll take the no deal, the no preparation is the governments fault, they have had over two years. The fact that they have made no real attempt at preparing is the reason the eu does not feel threatened. All this is however academic, we are not leaving, especially if May survives tonight.
  5. Phil.

    Brexit 2019

    I disagree, just about anybody could make a better job of it. May has been and was always going to be an utter failure. As to getting the best possible deal, no one knows what the eu would give up, as they have not been tested. The UK has meekly rolled over on every aspect and the deal that has been arrived at is solely about keeping us tied into the eu, not leaving it.
  6. Phil.

    Brexit 2019

    Rumours circulating amongst journalists, that Graham Brady chairman of the 1922 committee, has asked to see PM on her return tomorrow, indicating a possible leadership challenge is in the offing.
  7. Phil.

    Brexit 2019

    You missed out the ten plagues, Plague 1 — water turned into blood; fish died. ... Plague 2 — frogs. ... Plagues 3 and 4 — biting insects and wild animals. ... Plagues 5 and 6 — livestock disease and boils. ... Plague 7 — fiery hail. ... Plague 8 — locusts. ... Plague 9 — darkness. ... Plague 10 — death of the firstborn.
  8. Phil.

    Brexit 2019

    He doesn't, it's a trick he is playing with Labour voters who actually want to remain. They don't realise that Corbyn hates the eu and will be quite happy to leave, he just can't say that or his support might abandon him.
  9. Phil.

    Brexit 2019

    I think today was more about May's survival than it was about Brexit. Much was said during the debate about seeking further reassurances, well this is a complete red herring. It doesn't matter what reassurances are obtained, if the proposed treaty still includes the legal text relating to the backstop. My feeling is that we are still heading towards an impasse at which point parliament will want to put a stop to the process. I don't think they have the balls to simply cancel the article 50 process which the ECJ says that they can, therefore my opinion is that another referendum is still the front runner, despite what the government currently says.
  10. Phil.

    Brexit 2019

    Yes but they will be our incompetents, not foreign ones. I see much of the problem being that our rulers, and in that I include politicians and the civil service, have over our years of eu membership, become lazy and rather irrelevant. In a nutshell, a huge amount of our rules are now delivered on a train from Brussels, and these chinless wonders simply rubber stamp the diktats as they are received. They are also in the comfortable position of being able to say, look it's not our fault, it's the eu who are responsible for the latest rule or regulation. Now, once removed from the eu, and I say that tongue in cheek as I don't believe it will happen, these rulers of ours will not be able to hide their incompetence and will have to start earning their living again. I know this would take time, but there is no reason why things should not improve. We used to have a formidable civil service that had no match. For me Brexit is about one thing and one thing only, the ability as a sovereign nation to make our own decisions.
  11. Phil.

    Brexit 2019

    Provided that if there is another vote it includes a full blown, hard, no deal Brexit, i.e. a proper Brexit not the half baked offering we are currently being asked to endorse, then bring it on. You might be surprised by the result. That option however will not be available, and therefore any further vote will be rigged in such a way to ensure the establishment wins this time round. They may be a bunch of incompetent useless twats, but they won't make the same mistake twice.
  12. Phil.

    Brexit 2019

    I don't actually want to leave the eu on WTO terms, I would much rather a deal based on free trade between the eu and U.K. The problem is no one has actually tried to achieve that. The eu won't offer it, they don't want to lose the control they have over us. It has to be forced onto the table, and if it were the eu would deal, it would be in their interests, rather than risk no deal at all. Just think about the cost to individual eu countries of a no deal Brexit. France is ablaze at the moment because the French government wanted to put a bit of tax on to the price of fuel. Imagine what would happen in France if we caused the collapse of the common agricultural policy by withholding our 39 billion. I accept we are in a pickle, we used to have a civil service which was ruthless in its ability to project British policy, it was the envy of the world. Now it is a damp squib, largely due to the fact, that every responsibility has been handed to the eu to manage, so we will have a steep learning curve. But better that, than end up where the eu is heading, assuming it actually survives much longer anyway.
  13. Phil.

    Brexit 2019

    But we are not actually getting Brexit, what we are getting, is the remainer establishment doing their utmost to thwart Brexit at all costs, ideally by reversing it entirely, or if unsuccessful in that, creating a non brexit, Brexit, that actually ditches all the good stuff, but keeps us trapped to all the crap.
  14. Phil.

    Brexit 2019

    So now we know, the eu army created not to protect Europe from an external threat, but to crush internal dissent of civilian resistance to the creation of a super state. https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/747052/gilet-jaunes-paris-eu-flag-vehicles-riots-yellow-vests-protests
  15. Phil.

    Brexit 2019

    Are you declaring publicly that you have cheated the taxman of his dues. Why should people who live on boats pay a tax on fuel used for heating when householders don't.
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