Sea water levels

[Dr Bob]

12 minutes ago, Onionman said:

 

Before about ten thousand years ago, the conveyor used to stop regularly and there were swings in average European temperatures of 10deg C or so on a regular (couple of thousand year or so) basis. There's a good reason to believe that the stable nature of climate since then (due to a historically unusual stability in the North Atlantic Conveyor) allowed the growth of farming and civilisation in Northern Europe.

 

In short, it's normal behaviour for the Gulf Stream to collapse regularly - we live in an unusually stable time. And climate change runs a small risk of tipping us back into instability.

Yep, that's the way I see it, although the risk may not be as low as you think. My guess is we are heading for some colder weather.

[artleknock]

2 hours ago, Dr Bob said:

Yep, that's the way I see it, although the risk may not be as low as you think. My guess is we are heading for some colder weather.

I can remember when I was younger the experts(?) were forcasting an ice age. ?

That was before they realised that global warming was more lucrative.

Edited December 2, 2018 by artleknock

[matty40s]

2 hours ago, Dr Bob said:

Yep, that's the way I see it, although the risk may not be as low as you think. My guess is we are heading for some colder weather.

I agree, was outside in a t shirt today when filling the water tank up,  bound to get a frost this week, or next.......

[Dr Bob]

2 minutes ago, matty40s said:

I agree, was outside in a t shirt today when filling the water tank up,  bound to get a frost this week, or next.......

Yep, I was thinking tuesday/wednesday

[matty40s]

Next weekend onwards....?

[MtB]

On 27/11/2018 at 12:18, KevMc said:

But they keep telling us the solution is simple ...stop burning carbon!

 

Or more accurately, everybody else to stop burning carbon. The little bit I burn makes no difference. Me stopping will make no difference. The problem is the carbon all the rest of the world burns. They should stop it. 

 

Trouble is, all of them other peoples think like me. 

 

[Machpoint005]

5 hours ago, Mike the Boilerman said:

 

Or more accurately, everybody else to stop burning carbon. The little bit I burn makes no difference. Me stopping will make no difference. The problem is the carbon all the rest of the world burns. They should stop it. 

 

Trouble is, all of them other peoples think like me. 

 

Same as those wonderful buses everyone should be using -- so that I can drive my car into town. 

[Mike Todd]

On 27/11/2018 at 09:30, Machpoint005 said:

Excellent link, thanks for finding it.

 

It seems that humanity divides itself into two camps:

(1) Accept the huge consensus of expert opinion, and each work out how to do their bit;

(2) Reject expert opinion because they don't want it to be true.

 

Don't confuse him with facts, whatever you do. It doesn't work for religious adherents, so why would it work for climate change deniers?

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[MtB]

1 hour ago, Machpoint005 said:

Same as those wonderful buses everyone should be using -- so that I can drive my car into town. 

 

Yes exactly that. And it is a problem for which I can envisage no solution. 

 

Ok we all might cut down on our 'carbon footprint' a bit but with UK population spiralling, that will soon get cancelled out by the 3% a year increase in our population so more people are the burning the stuff. And the same applies worldwide I suspect. 

 

We should be forecasting what will actually happen and plan to mitigate the effects, rather than doing all this pointless hand-wringing about how everyone else needs to stop burning carbon. 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 3, 2018 by Mike the Boilerman
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[Machpoint005]

1 hour ago, Mike Todd said:

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[artleknock]

The best way to cut CO2 production - Everyone stop breathing ?

[Machpoint005]

11 minutes ago, artleknock said:

The best way to cut CO2 production - Everyone stop breathing ?

Are you including animals? I think you might find that other species collectively exude a lot more CO2 than 7,200 million homo sapiens.

[artleknock]

4 hours ago, Machpoint005 said:

Are you including animals? I think you might find that other species collectively exude a lot more CO2 than 7,200 million homo sapiens.

Ah! But! if they stopped breathing there would be 7.200 Million less to polute the planet.

[Machpoint005]

fewer

[WotEver]

48 minutes ago, artleknock said:

Ah! But! if they stopped breathing there would be 7.200 Million less to polute the planet.

Less than what?

[Jim Riley]

1 minute ago, WotEver said:

Less than what?

Let's have fewer pedantry. Thanks 

[Machpoint005]

2 minutes ago, Jim Riley said:

Let's have fewer pedantry. Thanks 

Fewer pedants, less pedantry

[artleknock]

Lord, I wish I were edumecated like what you lot are.

[Dr Bob]

I just stopped breathing for 60 seconds. Did that help?

[WotEver]

4 minutes ago, Dr Bob said:

I just stopped breathing for 60 seconds. Did that help?

Nope, you’re still unedumacated. 

[Dr Bob]

Just now, WotEver said:

Nope, you’re still unedumacated. 

If that's what you are after drinking too much Rhubarb gin then I ahee, hic.

 

[Jim Riley]

22 hours ago, Machpoint005 said:

Fewer pedants, less pedantry

... And along trots the Lesser peDant to point out what most of us already knew. My post was like a joke, only smaller. 

[Machpoint005]

41 minutes ago, Jim Riley said:

... And along trots the Lesser peDant to point out what most of us already knew. My post was like a joke, only smaller. 

...and completely lacking in irony.

 

At the moment of writing, I have gained two "laugh" emojis, you have none. Work it out!

[Phil Ambrose]

30 minutes ago, Machpoint005 said:

...and completely lacking in irony.

 

At the moment of writing, I have gained two "laugh" emojis, you have none. Work it out!

Fixed that ?

Phil

[Machpoint005]

12 minutes ago, Phil Ambrose said:

Fixed that ?

Phil

No, you haven't. It was after my "moment of writing". Pedantry has its uses, if only to dig heffalump traps.