Mooring Pin/Spike Warning Covers

[GreyLady]

I use an old hi-viz vest, which I cut on half lengthways down the back. I then threaded the back sections through the shoulder holes around the D rings on the mooring pins, and this works for me, although I hate mooring with pins with a passion and only ever use them as a last resort.

How come you don't like mooring pins ?

 

I guess any mooring without mooring rings is damaging.

 

Just a daft question from a know nuffing, are nappy pins more damaging only where I am their is a lot of banking collapsed which was once shored up by that corrugated stuff.

[Paul C]

I'd have said pins are more damaging, because every time they're used, it involves disrupting the soil somewhat. And the holes tend to be enlarged if its soft, with passing boats tugging the moored boat around etc. Nappy pins, correctly used, pull metal to metal and the piling is normally well secured, being driven deep into the ground so the pulling from a moored boat is relatively low force.

[Southern Star]

How come you don't like mooring pins ?

 

 

Because if I am moored somewhere for anything other than an overnight stop, they generally get worked loose by passing boats, and so I prefer to chain up against piling.

[GreyLady]

Because if I am moored somewhere for anything other than an overnight stop, they generally get worked loose by passing boats, and so I prefer to chain up against piling.

Ow ok!

 

Bloody speedboats on the canal. Tut

[Southern Star]

Ow ok!

 

Bloody speedboats on the canal. Tut

I find that when the ground is saturated, even slowly passing boats work the pins loose and it becomes a bit of a vicious circle, every subsequent passing boat loosens the pins by more than the one before until they are as risk of being pulled out. I do use mooring pins if I have to, but always prefer rings or goat chains whenever possible.

[ditchcrawler]

CRT have thousands of mooring rings on towpath edges around the country with nothing bright attached, and those are easily missed when hidden by vegetation and there's no line attached, but they don't seem to get sued. This would be because the courts expect that a reasonable person would realise they might be there and keep to the path.

 

As darkness fell one evening last year at Aynho we were about to moor on pins when the skipper's foot hit a ring (not hard enough to hurt), so we hunted about in the undergrowth with a torch and found one or two more and used those.

I had a job finding them during the day

[GreyLady]

I'd have said pins are more damaging, because every time they're used, it involves disrupting the soil somewhat. And the holes tend to be enlarged if its soft, with passing boats tugging the moored boat around etc. Nappy pins, correctly used, pull metal to metal and the piling is normally well secured, being driven deep into the ground so the pulling from a moored boat is relatively low force.

Thanks Paul, where we are their is vast stretches of Pilling that has fallen into the canal and big chunks of earth behind it, i read something last year about banning mooring pins but how that would work Wur I am is inconceivable.

 

Ps those vast stretches have orange crt fencing and in some spots enough room for 1 dog at a time.

I find that when the ground is saturated, even slowly passing boats work the pins loose and it becomes a bit of a vicious circle, every subsequent passing boat loosens the pins by more than the one before until they are as risk of being pulled out. I do use mooring pins if I have to, but always prefer rings or goat chains whenever possible.

I guess it's a better piece of mind when leaving your boat, I've Gorra lot to learn. Edited March 13, 2016 by GreyLady

[ditchcrawler]

Robbing dogs, tut

 

Spose empty scrumpy bottles painted white would do the same job.

 

 

Hiccup hkkk.

How about those dayglow bottles that contain soft drinks like fruit shoot

[GreyLady]

How about those dayglow bottles that contain soft drinks like fruit shoot

LOL rolls over tickling me belly.

 

Good idea that.

Edited March 13, 2016 by GreyLady

[Mac of Cygnet]

This is possibly the thread that Martin remembers, about a cyclist suing a boater. It is also discussed at length in the Rose of Arden blog, written by a forum member. But it both cases it is only hearsay, and I can't find any firm evidence of it having actually happened.

 

I use the old-fashioned cylindrical washing-up liquid containers, doubling up as paintbrush cleaning vessels, so they're all sorts of colours.

 

Edited to say I have found several more references to the "cyclist sues boater" scenario (including NBW of course!) but no firm evidence.

Edited March 13, 2016 by Mac of Cygnet

[blackrose]

We stick (empty!) white plastic milk bottles over our pins.

Trina

 

Me too, but I guess there's always a market for people who want to spend their money on things which do the same thing.

[GreyLady]

I guess there's always a market for people who want to spend their money on things which do the same thing.

 

True, though being honest we've spent a small fortune on all sorts while waiting for the boat, I guess the thinking is each item is one step closer to being prepared.

 

I doubt my mum would let me store cut in half milk bottles under her bed. Lol

 

Truth

Edited March 13, 2016 by GreyLady

[Guest]

This is possibly the thread that Martin remembers, about a cyclist suing a boater. It is also discussed at length in the Rose of Arden blog, written by a forum member. But it both cases it is only hearsay, and I can't find any firm evidence of it having actually happened.

 

I use the old-fashioned cylindrical washing-up liquid containers, doubling up as paintbrush cleaning vessels, so they're all sorts of colours.

That's it Mac I think. So it looks as if they probably got 'short shrift'

[Wanderer Vagabond]

Just as a sort of passing thought, since most of the 'trips' are likely to take place in the dark, would using a couple of these solar garden lights (about a quid each from Wilkos) driven in alongside or attached to the mooring pins be an idea. I also hate using mooring pins and they are only the last option when all else fails.

[Darren72]

We use old wonder wipe containers. Bright red in colour. Cut the bottom out and they go straight over the pins. Google "Wonder Wipes", other brands available in bright yellow.

[GUMPY]

I just knock my pins in so far that you couldn't get anything to stay on them anyway.

[GreyLady]

I just knock my pins in so far that you couldn't get anything to stay on them anyway.

Go on just admit it, you just like tripping people up with 8mm rope. Haha

[ditchcrawler]

I just knock my pins in so far that you couldn't get anything to stay on them anyway.

Its the way they make them these days with a welded ring 6" from the top.

[GreyLady]

Its the way they make them these days with a welded ring 6" from the top.

True I've just checked our force4chandelry mooring pin order and they look like 6" above rope ring.

 

Maybe fruit juice bottles were a better option.

 

Scratches head while retrieving my coat.

[GUMPY]

Go on just admit it, you just like tripping people up with 8mm rope. Haha

8mm that's only suitable for use as a garrote

Or on a sailing dinghy

Its the way they make them these days with a welded ring 6" from the top.

Just knockem in so the rings below ground

[The Bearwood Boster]

True, though being honest we've spent a small fortune on all sorts while waiting for the boat, I guess the thinking is each item is one step closer to being prepared.

 

I doubt my mum would let me store cut in half milk bottles under her bed. Lol

 

Truth

You don't need to cut bottles in half,they just pop over the top of the pins.I think you're thinking of the massive bottles & not the litre ones. Edited March 13, 2016 by The Bearwood Boster

[GreyLady]

You don't need to cut bottles in half,they just pop over the top of the pins.I think you're thinking of the massive bottles & not the litre ones.

Thanks, it's a good idea it don't matter wots on top, I reckon once I get on board I will think less about stuff.

[ditchcrawler]

8mm that's only suitable for use as a garrote

Or on a sailing dinghy

Just knockem in so the rings below ground

Then the rope gets all dirty and I have to put them in the washing machine before we moor up again.

[GreyLady]

Then the rope gets all dirty and I have to put them in the washing machine before we moor up again.

Well one can't have dirty ropes can one.

 

 

Pfffft, I will let my dad cast off if a dogs cocked it's leg . Lol hehe

Edited March 13, 2016 by GreyLady

[Witchword]

I find that when the ground is saturated, even slowly passing boats work the pins loose and it becomes a bit of a vicious circle, every subsequent passing boat loosens the pins by more than the one before until they are as risk of being pulled out. I do use mooring pins if I have to, but always prefer rings or goat chains whenever possible.

 

I looked at a boat whose skipper has designed something he calls "boomeranchors" which should stop this from happening. I don't know if they're available to buy but I thought it was genius. I'd love it if he did market them, I'd certainly get some.

 

 

Just as a sort of passing thought, since most of the 'trips' are likely to take place in the dark, would using a couple of these solar garden lights (about a quid each from Wilkos) driven in alongside or attached to the mooring pins be an idea. I also hate using mooring pins and they are only the last option when all else fails.

This is what campers often do to protect their tent pegs. It does work except with extreme inebriation

 

Can you get fluorescent mooring ropes?