Cheshire cat Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Wiser people than me will have an opinion but the gasket face looks OK to me. I can't see any cracks. I'd clean it up and put it back together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Wiser people than me will have an opinion but the gasket face looks OK to me. I can't see any cracks. I'd clean it up and put it back together. I would like to see the head skimmed, otherwise it seems ok Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimfin Posted November 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Wiser people than me will have an opinion but the gasket face looks OK to me. I can't see any cracks. I'd clean it up and put it back together. That was my thought, as the engine is a great starter But the valve seats need looking at and re facing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshire cat Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 The valve seats are easily rescued but probably just need re-cutting Lots of people have B series engines in their MGB's and have chosen to have hardened seats put in to counter the lack of lead in modern petrol. I've never heard of valve seat recession being a problem on diesels. Does it happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 The valve seats are easily rescued but probably just need re-cutting Lots of people have B series engines in their MGB's and have chosen to have hardened seats put in to counter the lack of lead in modern petrol. I've never heard of valve seat recession being a problem on diesels. Does it happen? I thought the exhaust seats look a bit corroded on one cylinder, the others look to have a nice seating ring but not that one, hard to tell from a photo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimfin Posted November 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 OK. Got the bad news today that the cylinder head is cracked and that I need a replacement. Anyone know of a good one available??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Brooks Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 I am sorry that it happened but pleased you posted. I had a horrible feeling that one cylinder's pre-combustion chamber had a crack in it when I looked at the photos. Better find out now than later though, even if it will cost more to sort out.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Dunkley Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 OK. Got the bad news today that the cylinder head is cracked and that I need a replacement. Anyone know of a good one available??? I've got one that I took off an engine that had been wrecked through lack of oil. The head itself is OK, but as far as I remember the combustion chamber caps weren't too good. I haven't seen it since I moved Workshop, but I'll look it out in the next day or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimfin Posted November 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 I've got one that I took off an engine that had been wrecked through lack of oil. The head itself is OK, but as far as I remember the combustion chamber caps weren't too good. I haven't seen it since I moved Workshop, but I'll look it out in the next day or two. Thanks. I look forward to a positive reply!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimfin Posted November 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Will a head from a BMC 2.2 fit my 1.8??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 No Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimfin Posted November 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 So, just in case I get any other offers. Is the 1.8 head the only one that will fit?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 (edited) Yes I thought Tony had found you one? Richard Edited November 28, 2015 by RLWP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimfin Posted November 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Your a man of few words the morning!! Waiting on Tony to get back to me, but I am asking around other places as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac of Cygnet Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Are any other entirely non-technical readers finding this thread absolutely fascinating, and not a little suspenseful too? I almost wish that Jim takes a looonngg time to finish his engine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Brooks Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Simply out of interest Richard, what stops a 1.5 head fitting? I think some early 1.8s used the needle glowplugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Simply out of interest Richard, what stops a 1.5 head fitting? I think some early 1.8s used the needle glowplugs. Well, to be honest, I would have asked Tony Brooks.... I have heard this thing about 1.5 and 1.8 heads being interchangeable, I can't recommend it as I don't know I do have a 1.8 head here Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Brooks Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Thanks, I too have heard that some say they are they are and others say are not interchangeable. Maybe it depends if its a UK or Turkish built engine. We will just have to wait until someone tells us the definitive answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimfin Posted November 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Are any other entirely non-technical readers finding this thread absolutely fascinating, and not a little suspenseful too? I almost wish that Jim takes a looonngg time to finish his engine! Glad you are enjoying listening to all MY problems. Boat is laid up till mid March. But would like to have it back in by mid January. I do have a 1.8 head here Richard Are you selling!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimfin Posted December 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Update on my overhaul. No sign of Tony getting back to me as I did a deal with RLWP for a reconditioned head which is on it's way via the north pole. The piston rings I got were not an exact fit. The compression rings were too deep for the grove and were standing about 15 thou outside the piston grove. I'll be leaving them in tomorrow to be sorted. ie. cut a deeper grove in the pistons. I also took apart my CAV injector pump. You can but a seal kit online, and you can see roughly how to do it at this link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h26p78YZIr4 This is a pic of the head returned with cracks marked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimfin Posted December 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 Received my replacement head today. Looks the business. Left the pistons in today to be modified to take the rings. While the pistons are been done, I'm also getting new small end bushes. The man said they needed replacing. Picture of the piston in lath ready for turning after rings have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedwell Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 Yes they were in the joint set. Should have checked. My engine only had 4 fitted to the exhaust valves only. Bit late joining this discussion but I fitted all 8 seals to my Calcutt Turkish 1.8 and an exhaust valve seized in its guide after about a quarter of a mile on its first test run. I think inlet only is correct. I hate to tempt fate but it has run for 12 years since. i also found that British rings do not fit the German pistons, used in the Turkish engines, Fortunately you seem to be passed this stage. Arthur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Nibble Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 Are you sure it's a good idea to deepen the grooves? I mean sure. I have seen a piston crown separate from the skirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 Are you sure it's a good idea to deepen the grooves? I mean sure. I have seen a piston crown separate from the skirt. I assume, and hope, he means widen Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Nibble Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 The piston rings I got were not an exact fit. The compression rings were too deep for the grove and were standing about 15 thou outside the piston grove. I'll be leaving them in tomorrow to be sorted. ie. cut a deeper grove in the pistons. I assume, and hope, he means widen Richard I don't know if there's enough meat there or if the OP is aware of the requirements of a ring groove, hate to leave a sharp 90 degree angle at the bottom for instance. It may be a perfectly usual thing in these circumstances but not knowing that my hair is on end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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