A Wee one to start again.

[gazza]

Flippin heck. I thought choosing a nozzle, setting the pressure, adjusting the flame and chasing a weld pool about was hard enough. At least I didn't have to know a load of technical jargon to weld with gas

 

Richard

That's the toned down version

[W+T]

The other drawback with not having HF is you don't get a button on the torch, gas flow is controlled by a knob, it's flowing all the time, sort of handy for post flow but a a bit wasteful of gas.

The biggest downfall of not having a button is you can't pulse the arc if it's getting a bit hot and you are about to loose the weld pool. The only thing you can do is ram more filler in and speed your travel up.

You also don't get a slope down current, which means when you take the torch away the weld goes from welding current to zero instantly - not ideal, but as earlier you will get away with it on stuff that's not too fussy.

 

Parameters for the sort of job you are looking at assuming you use 1.6mm tube would be somewhere near the following.

 

1.6mm tungsten.

1.6mm 316 filler wire.

6-8 litres per minute gas flow (in a breeze free location!!)

50 ish amps.

Nice sharp tungsten tip - the taper wants to be 3 x the diameter so 5 mm max

No 6 shroud. Cerirated (grey tip) tungstens are ideal - Thoriated (red tip) are out of fashion due to the radioactive dust you get from grinding the tungsten.

 

You won't go far wrong with that little lot

 

 

That infact was enar the setup i was practicing on last time on SS, but 45amps, when i went higher amps it was to much, i moved along a bit faster but then lost the rythem. Thats what it is all about isnt it. correct set up and rythem.

I will the knack, i didnt really need to learn it last time just messing but now i need to.

 

 

Lots of welding jargon isnt there Richard, head bashing to get it right at times.

[gazza]

 

 

That infact was enar the setup i was practicing on last time on SS, but 45amps, when i went higher amps it was to much, i moved along a bit faster but then lost the rythem. Thats what it is all about isnt it. correct set up and rythem.

I will the knack, i didnt really need to learn it last time just messing but now i need to.

 

 

Lots of welding jargon isnt there Richard, head bashing to get it right at times.

That's the spirit

 

As you say, if your travel speed is lower drop the amps, 40a may suit you better. I like it hot and get a lick on, but that comes with experience.

 

I'm not going to dig my welding speed feet per minute chart Out, that wants stuffing up the rear end of the pillock who wrote it

 

Get yourself a good pair of gloves too, those baggy white things are hateful.

 

Something like this

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/351720018404?limghlpsr=true&hlpv=2&ops=true&viphx=1&hlpht=true&lpid=122&googleloc=9046187&poi=&campaignid=207297426&device=m&adgroupid=13585920426&rlsatarget=pla-142405555026&adtype=pla&crdt=0&ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0-L&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=122&ul_ref=http%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%252Frover%252F1%252F710-134428-41853-0%252F2%253Fipn%253Dicep%2526icep_id%253D67%2526mtid%253D1673%2526kwid%253D1%2526crlp%253D50600204586_563391%2526icep_item_id%253D351720018404%2526itemid%253D351720018404%2526icep_meta_categ_id%253D12576%2526icep_etrs%253DN%2526icep_epid%253D-999%2526icep_ctlg%253D-999%2526icep_cond%253DNew%2526targetid%253D142405555026%2526rpc%253D0.00%2526rpc_upld_id%253D0%2526device%253Dm%2526icep_msku_flag%253Dn%2526icep_cbt%253Dy%2526adtype%253Dpla%2526googleloc%253D9046187%2526poi%253D%2526campaignid%253D207297426%2526adgroupid%253D13585920426%2526rlsatarget%253Dpla-142405555026%2526gclid%253DCMDkm8nk6swCFbEy0wodJu8N5A%2526srcrot%253D710-134428-41853-0%2526rvr_id%253D1033252338441&limghlpsr=true&hlpv=2&ops=true&viphx=1&hlpht=true&lpid=122&chn=ps&googleloc=9046187&poi=&campaignid=207297426&device=m&adgroupid=13585920426&rlsatarget=pla-142405555026&adtype=pla&crdt=0&ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0-L&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=122&ul_ref=http%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%252Frover%252F1%252F710-134428-41853-0%252F2%253Fipn%253Dicep%2526icep_id%253D67%2526mtid%253D1673%2526kwid%253D1%2526crlp%253D50600204586_563391%2526icep_item_id%253D351720018404%2526itemid%253D351720018404%2526icep_meta_categ_id%253D12576%2526icep_etrs%253DN%2526icep_epid%253D-999%2526icep_ctlg%253D-999%2526icep_cond%253DNew%2526targetid%253D142405555026%2526rpc%253D0.00%2526rpc_upld_id%253D0%2526device%253Dm%2526icep_msku_flag%253Dn%2526icep_cbt%253Dy%2526adtype%253Dpla%2526googleloc%253D9046187%2526poi%253D%2526campaignid%253D207297426%2526adgroupid%253D13585920426%2526rlsatarget%253Dpla-142405555026%2526gclid%253DCMDkm8nk6swCFbEy0wodJu8N5A%2526srcrot%253D710-134428-41853-0%2526rvr_id%253D1033252338441&ul_noapp=true

 

Can't remember what brand ive got at Work, they were FOC from our new supplier.

It's all about the feel of the filler going thru your fingers.

Edited May 21, 2016 by gazza

[John V]

Blimey !!!!! Just been reading that lot and can feel my eyes beginning to glaze over !

 

I've got to do a little bit of welding and as I haven't touched my gear for probably 5 years or more (stick/inverter)

I think I will just go and play at sticking some bits of scrap together and make sure I have plenty of filler handy to hide the pigeon droppings !!!!!

(fortunately it's above the waterline and not load bearing )

[RLWP]

Where is he then? It's been good weather and he's got interesting things to do. Must be time for a report

 

Richard

[gazza]

Blimey !!!!! Just been reading that lot and can feel my eyes beginning to glaze over !

 

I've got to do a little bit of welding and as I haven't touched my gear for probably 5 years or more (stick/inverter)

I think I will just go and play at sticking some bits of scrap together and make sure I have plenty of filler handy to hide the pigeon droppings !!!!!

(fortunately it's above the waterline and not load bearing )

 

My boss reckons I could make a grown man fall asleep standing up talking about welding.

[W+T]

Patience Richard, just typing it up and weather hasnt been all that good last few days, torrential rain yesterday and last night, atleast no leaks

 

 

Blimey !!!!! Just been reading that lot and can feel my eyes beginning to glaze over !

 

I've got to do a little bit of welding and as I haven't touched my gear for probably 5 years or more (stick/inverter)

I think I will just go and play at sticking some bits of scrap together and make sure I have plenty of filler handy to hide the pigeon droppings !!!!!

(fortunately it's above the waterline and not load bearing )

 

 

Hi John, modern welding gubbins tends to that to me at times, now gas welding , light, get the correct flame and away you go

 

 

 

Well that has been a week of this and that, dint get done what i wanted due to weather again but not far off, had a day off aswell to chill. As said i have decided to get a Tig welder to do my own rails for the boat this will be got in a few weeks so until then i can get it painted and fit the rest of the deck gear before i line out the cabin. I am in no panic that it is going to be done for mid next summer launch as i will have all winter fit to out now.

Hang on....lets not get ahead of myself.

 

Top deck is primed but not the rear end which is going to be done bit by bit this week. What i need to get done is the top screen so todays task was that. The Sapele arrived a few days ago, this is for a few jobs and one is this.

 

I need to thank Steve ( the barnacle ) again, the SS bolts came in just perfct

 

Timber is 43mmx26mm Sapele and the window i made up from cutting and shutting the windows i got the other week. I got the two windows and loads of trim wiht new glass just to make the screen, i got these as they are very similar design as the side windows.

 

From this

 

 

 

Not the best wood work but good enough for me, I did mess up on the all frame 45 deg cuts but the rest of the frames had big holes drilled, to big for the bolt heads. Cant have it all as i want it guess.

 

 

 

These pics are before it has been glued and sanded, it is now glued and next is the polish of the ally frame, such joys, i need more polish compound now. Pay day week

 

Ay up i forgot to say the Sapele will be treated to Danish oil, i was impressed with the last ones so i will do it again, along with the strakes and other areas.

 

The side frames will be sorted asap, i have the design in my head as usual, front screen will fold back then the two sides inwards on top.

 

 

[RLWP]

 

My boss reckons I could make a grown man fall asleep standing up talking about welding.

 

snnnghhh - huh, what?

 

Richard

[W+T]

 

snnnghhh - huh, what?

 

Richard

 

 

wake up lad,get reading

[gazza]

snnnghhh - huh, what?

 

Richard

I did resist the urge to get involved in the recent welding for dummies thread!

[the barnacle]

I need to thank Steve ( the barnacle ) again, the SS bolts came in just perfct

 

 

no problem, good to see your progress - always look forward to your pictures and report, when this is finished you must start another - maybe larger one

[W+T]

Hi Steve. I already keep an eye out for a bigger one. If I could find a 30-40 foot one ?

[Cheshire cat]

Your drive isn't that big!

[W+T]

Your drive isn't that big!

 

 

Oh yes it is, can be , i am surei can twist T`s arm a bit more lol, get rid of my workshop and the con`y

[Murflynn]

or knock the house down and build a 70ft widebeam

[boat fan]

or knock the house down and build a 70ft widebeam

 

Funny man .......but ....

 

Size does matter ......

 

And a reminder to myself , I need to do some work ......if i can get motivated.....I feel tired...

[W+T]

or knock the house down and build a 70ft widebeam

 

Could do one i two halves then weld together before launch, you got me thinking

 

 

 

Funny man .......but ....

 

Size does matter ......

 

And a reminder to myself , I need to do some work ......if i can get motivated.....I feel tired...

 

 

Was wondering what you were slacking for

.

[Ray T]

 

Could do one i two halves then weld together before launch, you got me thinking

 

 

 

Barry Argent did that with Perch.

 

 

i min 34 secs in.

 

Note this is not the full programme.

Edited May 24, 2016 by Ray T

[W+T]

I did have plans on a GRP one of 40x12 in two halfs,but then it joining them together. And the cover to build it. couldnt get planning permission

[boat fan]

 

 

Oh yes it is, can be , i am surei can twist T`s arm a bit more lol, get rid of my workshop and the con`y

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/03/r/projects/tims/

 

Go on , you know you want to .....

Edited May 25, 2016 by boat fan

[W+T]

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/03/r/projects/tims/

 

Go on , you know you want to .....

 

You know i may just try it when i get back to a normal life and timeto myself to do it. Best kind of noat with a few sealed bulkheads incase you hit an iceberg, unsinkable....so they say lol.

will look at that later

[John V]

I just went back to the start of this thread and reviewed the first couple of pages.

 

The transformation is unbelievable and in less than a year ! ................I must take up drinking cider if it has that effect

[W+T]

Hi John, i havnt looked back yet for a good while, i only like to when i feel like it is getting know where, then it perks me up a bit

 

And sorry to report i have done nothing this week, been to tired after work and little time, ine thing this job will be beibg replaced for another or reduce hours if they can, but us just paying for the boat now so i will put up with it,

 

This weekend is forcast good so a good bit will be done, i was going to go away to see family up Cumbria and play golf with a mate, well this boat has got priority again, must be barmmy i say.

[Murflynn]

 

 

Go on , you know you want to .....

err .....................................................

 

 

 

.................................. no thanks.

 

 

 

my latest project, launched 25 May.

Has electric and petrol power. Gets up to semi-planing with 4HP. Sleeps one, no bathroom but a very nice sun terrace. Based on a vintage Bonwitco 470.

 

 

Edited May 27, 2016 by Murflynn

[boat fan]

 

Looks like a fun boat

 

 

How about something like this then ?